Millitancy

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

Everyone now seems to be convinced that 'teaching the people' is the only possible way a 'revolution' could occour, now, short history lesson :

October revolution ,Russia ;Bolsheveiks storm the winter palace and after a short imprisionment, execute the Last Tsar.

Cuba, The armed forces of Fidel Castro take cuba by force,bringing the populatin to their side along the way.

The american revolution, armed skirmishers defeat the redcoats, redcoats loose in battle to colonist armies.

My question is, why are many who would advocate millitary operations, even maticulously planned, branded as stalinists who like to kill people for the sake of it, and told we should all be teachers and hand out flowers ?

Well planned and well organised armed revolution would acheive things a lot quicker than sitting around all day thinkin it is just one day going to happen .

[redstarshining]

I agree that millitancy may be required. In my opinion "teaching the people" is not the only possible way a revolution could occur, but it's the only possible way a revolution could start. Fighting a guerilla war with a handfull of people against a globalising enemy is impossible unfortunately, times have changed. In order to win a war, you need to convince the masses first. In most first and second world countries, as well as in many so-called "third world" countries, the people will only join you when they are starving.
Thus, there are only two options: either you wait for the next economy crisis in your country, or you find a way to take control of the mass media, then people will follow you. Another possible way would be to create a general disorder by using terrorism, which is probably inefficient as long as the enemy controls the mass media. But in both cases you need to be prepared for the right moment! Currently, we are very badly organized. In most european countries we have an incredible amount of tiny communist parties who refuse to work together. I do not expect from most of them to do anything productive in the near future. What we need is a centralized, global information network. Joining the information warfare is our most important task, in my opinion. Then we have to look for weak spots around the globe ( especially emerging 4th and 5th world countries ) and build up a local branch of a global information network there. But in order to do that we need a common goal and a common strategy, not a zillion different communist parties who follow a zillion different strategies. Then we can think about military operations in some places. Just my 2 eurocents :)
Btw, I agree, to wait for the 'world revolution' is plain stupid, won't happen in our lifetime.

imo, we need to:

1.) Form a global organization with common goals

2.) Find a common strategy

3.) Start an 'information warfare'

4.) Practice, spread revolution from country to country

(Edited by redstarshining at 5:03 pm on Oct. 27, 2002)

[Som]

Russia, Single-party dictatorship formed, dictatorship of the proletariat becomes dictatorship over the proletariat.

Cuba, another dictatorship.

America, didn't become a dictatorship because its the thing they were most afraid of, though in the second elections under the constitution, criticism of the federalists was outlawed, though they lost the elections anyway.

as well as China, several african revolutions, and several others throughout the world.

This is the problem with the violent revolution, a revolution thats not specifically based on political freedom is so easily manipulated into dictatorships.

Violent revolution should be nothing but the last resort.

[Iepilei]

education is the only efficent way to gain support, not military dominance. i'm not NOT advocating any revolution and/or militaristic action taken against the agressor bourgeoise (and they will be), but am against using action as an attempt to gain support for the cause - through fear, as the US has.

[CompadreGuerrillera]

yes we need a worldwide network, to start the revolution, education plays a large role but we need to start organizing for the revolution now!!
to arms comrades!!

[KickMcCann]

This is the problem. Though world-wide revolution would be great, it has to be the will of the masses, the will of the overwhelming majority. Some of you want this revolution to be a communist one. I'm not going to debate the pluses and minuses of communism as opposed to another form of government or economy; I know I'd be beaten sensless in the pursuing arguement. But what if the people don't want communism? Is the revolution for you about strengthning your beliefs and cause? Or the improvement of existence for all, regardless of its specifics?
Most people in the world don't follow unproven theories, they follow what works, and in there eyes, communism hasn't worked. The look at the totalitarianism of the USSR, DPRK, and China; and they see the solution is just as bad as the problem.
Now I know from my own knowledge, and from your responses, that those countries were not real examples of communism, and that real communism was more like North America before the Europeans invaded. You didn't see the Native Americans goose-stepping through the forest in military parades flanked with pictures of Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Stalin, and followed by tanks and ICBMs.
But that's what they think of when they think of communism. Communism is a taboo subject and theory in the popular mindset of the world. Is it no coincidence that communist parties, groups, and organizations are in such weak numbers and disarray? Maybe communism could work and be very successful, but people are afraid of it. And do you really think it's possible to convert uneducated feudal peasantry to a communist system without working through the natural progress of education, democracy, capitalism, and socialism?
All the people must want the revolution and its results, not just the organizers and intellectuals.

and in regard to militarism: The best revolution is the one goes unnoticed by the tyrants until it is too late for them to stop it.

[tyronelad]

sometimes the government that you fight against will increase your popularity by thier own wrong doings- the IRA would not have sustained and been involved in the peace agreement had it not been for Bloody Sunday, Internment and the Hunger Strikes. What is needed is able propagandists to exploit the situation

[jpcupp]

Sounds like adventurism to me. if the usa could be violently overthrown i would be their with you as i hate this fucking country, but this analysis is guilty of left wing communism. try reading lenin's 'left wing communism an infantile disorder.'doesn't work look at the weaterunderground. a cuban style revolution has been tried all over the world, never worked. che was right about two, three many vietnams, but his foco theory has failed the test of time. while che made valuable contributions to the revolutionary masses, the better stradegy is people's war as aplied by mao,ho, giap, farc-ep. red nepal,etc.

[antieverything]

Note that Soyouz's description of the Russian Revolution is highly oversimplified...the revolution was hijacked and Russia was turned into a dictatorship.