When and why did humans start have pleasure sex

[Rockfan]

Well oviously cos it feels good but like why didnt we just stick to the sole purpose of repoduction. Dolphins to.

[Red Robe Majere]

wow dolphins too? thats amazing

[KC]

Well oviously cos it feels good but like why didnt we just stick to the sole purpose of repoduction. Dolphins to.

Sex to all forms of life "feels good", otherwise they would become extinct! So every animal has "pleasure sex." The only difference is that humans have birth control, so we're the only species that is able to have sex for pleasure without reproducing.

[Rockfan]

Originally posted by Red Robe [email protected] 10 2005, 05:36 AM
wow dolphins too? thats amazing
I know dude next they'll be pissing in the toliet.

Ok yea I know its quite simple now i think about it but it baffled me at the start.

[Anarcho-Communist]

People do have sexual intercourse for the act of bringing a new life form into this world. People also have sex for the enjoyment for that sole purpose, they get enjoyment out of it. It stimulates the brain. The dolphin bit is very interesting yet dodgy. Did you know, that pigs have ###### for 30minutes?

[Ian]

Originally posted by Anarcho-[email protected] 10 2005, 06:38 PM
The dolphin bit is very interesting yet dodgy.
I saw Dolphins having sex in a Documentary with Robin Williams, they took a few seconds and were done, I doubt it was very enjoyable but Dolphins always look happy anyway.

[Hiero]

I have come to believe that dolphins and humans are the only animals to have sex for pleasure. All over animals have sex for reproducing.

[Sir Aunty Christ]

Have you ever seen Bonobo monkies? Those things hump like mad.

[KC]

I have come to believe that dolphins and humans are the only animals to have sex for pleasure. All over animals have sex for reproducing.

SEX IS PLEASURABLE TO ALL ANIMALS. IT HAS TO BE. IF IT WASN'T THEN ANIMALS WOULDN'T HAVE SEX.

[More Fire for the People]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 10:28 AM

I have come to believe that dolphins and humans are the only animals to have sex for pleasure. All over animals have sex for reproducing.

SEX IS PLEASURABLE TO ALL ANIMALS. IT HAS TO BE. IF IT WASN'T THEN ANIMALS WOULDN'T HAVE SEX.
No, most animals reproduce because nature drives them too.

[Vallegrande]

I have come to believe that dolphins and humans are the only animals to have sex for pleasure. All over animals have sex for reproducing.

lol what about the lions who screw for 20 hours a day every 30 minutes? Don't tell me that's not for pleasure. :D

[Severian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 06:36 AM
I have come to believe that dolphins and humans are the only animals to have sex for pleasure. All over animals have sex for reproducing.
You can believe anything you want, thanks to freedom of religion. But that belief makes no scientific sense.

There is a widespread belief that humans are the only species where females have sexual pleasure. Possibly that comes from seeing female animals wandering away after coitus as if not much had happened. But a lot of women don't have orgasms from coitus either; the real difference may be that humans are the only species that fakes orgasms.

A lot of species have non-reproductive sex. Female cows mount with each other. Female animals of a lot of species rub up against things, each other, etc. And as somebody mentioned bonobos have sex all the time, including with other bonobos of the same sex.

[OleMarxco]

Some species has to do to survive against other species. Yet we don't - not in any particular measure of domestics....or dogmastics...whatever. Anyways, we'll all do it SECRETLY for pleasure, 'tho - in the NAME OF SAVIN' MAN-KIND! ;)
But all of this squabblin' is meaningless, pointless, and you KNOW IT. Whether or not the fuckin' sex of the animals is for the "pleasureness" or for the exploit, "reproductness"; It doesn't matter. The end result is the same..another shit-eatin' creature born, whether or not you enjoy it. Al'tho you hafto, unless you believe in some strange force, forcin' ya into doin' so, makin' another of yourself...or worse! :o

[Vallegrande]

What about the fact that women find it a relief to have sex while they are pregnant? Perhaps animals feel the same way.

[emma gg]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 05:56 AM

Well oviously cos it feels good but like why didnt we just stick to the sole purpose of repoduction. Dolphins to.

Sex to all forms of life "feels good", otherwise they would become extinct! So every animal has "pleasure sex." The only difference is that humans have birth control, so we're the only species that is able to have sex for pleasure without reproducing.
have you ever seen cats mate? it is obviously quite painful. the little kitty penis has barbs on it that don't retract until he is done and the female cat is quite literally stuck on him til he's done.
dogs sound like they are in pain, but, then again, so do i :)
i think your research might need to be re searched.

[emma gg]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 08:40 PM
What about the fact that women find it a relief to have sex while they are pregnant? Perhaps animals feel the same way.
When a woman has an orgasm, her body releases a hormone called oxitocin. this is the same hormone that is released during childbirth when we have contractions. not all women like to have sex when they are pg, but mainly becasue they do not feel attractive. and we also have less control over our bladders, so sexual activity can sometimes get messy. if you have a sense of humor and a partner who finds you amazing and beautiful, pregnant sex is awesome! plus, semen ripens the cervix, so it makes childbirth easier. AND you are all swollen in your vaginal canal, so it makes it a snug and cozy fit for your partner.
i realize that many on this forum may not have had this blessed experience, so in the name of making knowlege common, here's some sharing for you!

[gy_mark]

Originally posted by Rotmutter+Jul 10 2005, 04:41 PM--> (Rotmutter @ Jul 10 2005, 04:41 PM)
[email protected] 10 2005, 10:28 AM

I have come to believe that dolphins and humans are the only animals to have sex for pleasure. All over animals have sex for reproducing.

SEX IS PLEASURABLE TO ALL ANIMALS. IT HAS TO BE. IF IT WASN'T THEN ANIMALS WOULDN'T HAVE SEX.
No, most animals reproduce because nature drives them too. [/b]
exaclty how do you nature drives them to?
And what is your definition of nature?

[Anarcho-Communist]

Originally posted by Ian+Jul 10 2005, 09:42 PM--> (Ian @ Jul 10 2005, 09:42 PM)
Anarcho-[email protected] 10 2005, 06:38 PM
The dolphin bit is very interesting yet dodgy.
I saw Dolphins having sex in a Documentary with Robin Williams, they took a few seconds and were done, I doubt it was very enjoyable but Dolphins always look happy anyway. [/b]
Ian were the dolphins having sexual intercourse WITH Robin Williams or was he the PRESENTER? :lol:

[Anarcho-Communist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2005, 09:10 AM
No, most animals reproduce because nature drives them too.
exaclty how do you nature drives them to?
And what is your definition of nature? [/quote]
Have you not heard of the term "Heat". Some animals put off a scent that attracts other males of the speices to come and have sexual intercouse with them. :lol:

[Severian]

Originally posted by Anarcho-[email protected] 10 2005, 03:49 PM

No, most animals reproduce because nature drives them too.
exaclty how do you nature drives them to?
And what is your definition of nature?
Have you not heard of the term "Heat". Some animals put off a scent that attracts other males of the speices to come and have sexual intercouse with them. :lol: [/quote]
But that doesn't answer why they respond to the scent; instinct is likely involved but probably also they learn to do things that are pleasurable.

[GoaRedStar]

Originally posted by Sir Aunty [email protected] 10 2005, 02:04 PM
Have you ever seen Bonobo monkies? Those things hump like mad.
I first saw the bonobo monkey on National Geographic ,and when you think about having sex all day is not a bad idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

[Vallegrande]

instinct is likely involved but probably also they learn to do things that are pleasurable.

Right they do things that attract the other's attention, whether it's building a nest or making body gestures. They dont just look at each other and start to the sex. They analyze each other and do things before they make any more progress.

[Vallegrande]

I heard the Quaker Parrots have one mate for life. When that mate dies, they dont look for any more. But they masturbate too! :lol:

[Anarcho-Communist]

Two years ago at the zoo, I feed some monkeys candy. The one that ate them went bezerk and started rooting all the others. :lol:

[Clarksist]

There are many animals that have sex for pleasure. But mostly animals have sex based on instinct.

I hear on NPR that the list was like humans, dolphins, whales, some large apes, and mice. Perhaps a few more.

[Rockfan]

Ok well as ussally this has just turned into a mass argument about shit thats completly off topic cos like personally I don';t really wanna think about animals funking but whatever.

[Vallegrande]

hehe, well dolphins shoulda been left out then.

[Rockfan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2005, 03:32 AM
hehe, well dolphins shoulda been left out then.
hahahahahahaaha nice

[Anarcho-Communist]

rockfan, if I'm correct you brought the animals into this thread with "Dolphins" :lol: It's all good.

[Rockfan]

Originally posted by Anarcho-[email protected] 11 2005, 03:55 AM
rockfan, if I'm correct you brought the animals into this thread with "Dolphins" :lol: It's all good.
yea but i like takin the piss out of myself

[Young'un]

Not read all replies, but :

Yes, if sex wasn't extremely enjoyable then we wouldnt have done it apparently, it damages the body in quite alot of ways.

[Anarcho-Communist]

"Rape" used for ones pleasure, it can damage the body and violate the mind and physical ability to live life to it's fullest. It is only commited by those who have no real reason in life, and they are usually not very pleasent company. :D

[gy_mark]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 10:29 PM

But that doesn't answer why they respond to the scent; instinct is likely involved but probably also they learn to do things that are pleasurable. [/quote]
Yeah thats what i'm saying, There must be some pleasure in it or they wouldnt do it, simple as that. Yes i suppose insticnt does have alot to do with it, but you cannot say that animals have sex, jsut because nature drives them to. as i said before, define nature

[Clarksist]

it damages the body in quite alot of ways.


Maybe you aren't doing it right.


"Rape" used for ones pleasure


Not sexual pleasure though. Its the pleasure of dominance over another.

[Anarcho-Communist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 08:29 AM

it damages the body in quite alot of ways.


Maybe you aren't doing it right.


It destroys the victims body, it puts a burden on them that they will have to carry that they got raped before. How would "you" feel, would "you" be violated? :huh:

[KC]

Who ever said anything about rape?

[Anarcho-Communist]

It involves sexual intercourse a lot of the time... :D

[Vallegrande]

Is this another one of those 'all sex is rape' things?

nevermind that. rape involves more things than just sexual intercourse. The rape of the land is a significant one. That behaviour has spread since ancient times.

[Anarcho-Communist]

Read the thread Vallegrande, it says sex/pleasure. Try reading the other post's aswell. :D

[Vallegrande]

Fine, but it should be about when rape started, not what it does.

[Severian]

Orgasmic science (Boston Globe) (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2005/04/24/orgasmic_science?mode=PF)

Mentions two relevant "further reading" bits. I've read the Stephen J. Gould article, and like most of his stuff it's worth checking out.


Until the 1970s or so, it was thought that women were the only female primates to experience orgasm, which led some scientists to speculate that in humans the female orgasm served as a sort of replacement for estrus, or ''heat'' - an encouragement to mate. But sightings of give-away shrieks and grimaces among female primates - which tended, incidentally, to occur more frequently in same-sex encounters - chipped away at this conventional wisdom.

Even in humans, male-female coitus is an iffy route to female orgasm, Lloyd notes in her book. (She declined to be interviewed for this article.) According to research she cites, only 55 percent of women have orgasms more than half the time during intercourse, while 5 to 10 percent never have them under any circumstances.

I hope that will put to rest any idea that our species is unique as far as sexual pleasure.

[Anarcho-Communist]

Very, very interesting information you shared with us :lol:

[coda]

Hey Emma gg! My boyfriend has a theory about that, believing you can pre-determine the sex by position. I tell him no. but he seems to have a track record. Ha! We shall see.

[Raisa]

Yall, Ima spell out my theory for you about why mammals have sex for pleasure.

Think about it:

Fish and most other animals that live in the water don't need to go inside each other to reproduce. The woman lays some eggs- she just puts em out there, the man lets out the sperm somewhere in the water over the eggs, and the sperm fertilizes the eggs when it gets to them. The water helps all of this reproductive activity a real lot. Everything is floating around in the water. Boring fish sex.

Mammals are different. Its dry outside the water, nothing is floating anywhere!

A matter of fact, the only secure wet place for any of these cellular things to happen- is inside a vagina. One little place! And considering this....

What would make a penis and a vagina get together in the first place? As opposed to a penis and an ear, or a penis and a nose?
It would have to feel good. Yup, right on the outside of the vagina, just so you can be like " put it in!! put it in!!" and then get pregnant. And it feels good for the man on the tip of it, so he can "put it in!! put it in!!" and put it in the vagina as close to where the egg is as possible, so maybe a baby can be made.

Before there were pictures and books telling us how this was done and even language, our feelings down there were all we really had to help us reproduce.

Sex was never ho-hum for humans or any primates or mammals I believe. It was always pleasureable to help us figure it out cause we cant just spray everything out into the water like the fish do and hope it all works out for us!

[Vallegrande]

I learned that beeswax was used in ancient Africa as a contraceptive. They must have wanted sex and not as much babies to come up with that solution.

[malikfujja]

I dont know when but I think they just thinked its much better than wanking.

[Severian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2005, 01:40 AM
Sex was never ho-hum for humans or any primates or mammals I believe. It was always pleasureable to help us figure it out cause we cant just spray everything out into the water like the fish do and hope it all works out for us!
Makes sense. 'Course mammals aren't the only animals which have internal conception.

[che's long lost daughter]

I agree with Raisa, if sex wasn't pleasurable, every living specie i.e humans, animals would come to an end

[Led Zeppelin]

I agree with Raisa, if sex wasn't pleasurable, every living specie i.e humans, animals would come to an end

Too bad Darwin thought of this 150 years ago, Raisa could have become a famous scientist.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Originally posted by Marxism-[email protected] 15 2005, 12:00 PM

I agree with Raisa, if sex wasn't pleasurable, every living specie i.e humans, animals would come to an end

Too bad Darwin thought of this 150 years ago, Raisa could have become a famous scientist.
That's not necessarily true though - I think to a large degree we're projecting human complexities on to animals. Certainly, it may be pleasurable, but, well, animals don't necessarily eat because they love the taste - it's just a "bonus".

[Commie Rat]

taste was belived to be the bodies way to know what was in what food,
sugar tastes sweet, so if it is sweet there is a chance it has sugar in it

[Raisa]

Originally posted by Marxism-[email protected] 15 2005, 12:00 PM

I agree with Raisa, if sex wasn't pleasurable, every living specie i.e humans, animals would come to an end

Too bad Darwin thought of this 150 years ago, Raisa could have become a famous scientist.
Its amazing.

I dont read as much as I should, but I theorize enough to make a damn library.
I would have never known Darwin thought of this 150 years ago! Guess great minds think alike :)

[Raisa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 11:52 PM
I heard the Quaker Parrots have one mate for life. When that mate dies, they dont look for any more. But they masturbate too! :lol:
I used to have a masterbating bird. He talked alot of shit too.
He said the word "shit" alot. And tell people to let him out of his cage.

And he would do it with your shirt sleeve, and if he caught you looking he would run up and bite you in the face.

I loved that bird just for being himself.