Did you meet Che, Redstar 2000?

[Andy Bowden]

This is probably a wind-up, but someone on the ComradeChe forums claimed that Redstar 2000 met Che Guevara.

Can't be true can it? :o

[bunk]

Yeah i think he did actually, can't find the post so you'll have to wait for him to turn up on this thread

[redstar2000]

Yes, it's true...back in the summer of 1964, I and several other American students got the opportunity to meet and talk with Che for 2-3 hours in Havana.

But remember, back then we didn't think that it was such a "big deal"...in those heady days, we ourselves expected to be leading a revolution in the U.S. within a decade or so. :lol:

If you participate in radical politics over a lifetime, you may briefly encounter people who are famous or who later become famous.

But it's the ideas that are really important and the thinking that goes into making those ideas a reality.

Personalities, even famous ones, are not nearly as important.

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[Ultra-Violence]

I would like to know who is redstar2000 why do poeple like him so much what has he done to earn so much priase from fellow commrades on this bored :ph34r:

[More Fire for the People]

Redstar2000 frequently channels the spirits of Marx, Gramsci, Mao, and Luxemburg but he won't admit it because that would mean he was engaging in religious activity.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 04:13 PM
Personalities, even famous ones, are not nearly as important.


Don't care, tell something about your meeting with Che.

[Phalanx]

Yeah, we wanna know every detail of the meeting.

[More Fire for the People]

Pff... it was the 60s, they probably all got stoned and talked about "the man" and "the establishment" in Marxist terminology.

[Socialistpenguin]

Just curious (I'm not a stalker, BTW), redstar2000, if you met Che in the 60s, how old are you?

[bunk]

RedStar where you a leninist in your past if you believed you were going to lead a revolution in the USA?

[Led Zeppelin]

Do you have pictures of your encounter with Che?

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by Marxism-Leninism+--> (Marxism-Leninism)Do you have pictures of your encounter with Che?[/b]

No, sorry. In fact, I've always been a bit "camera-shy" and there are probably less than a dozen photos of me extant (not counting my FBI file, of course. :lol:)


Originally posted by Josh+--> (Josh)RedStar were you a leninist in your past if you believed you were going to lead a revolution in the USA?[/b]

Yeah...though, fortunately, not a very good one. By 1970, I developed so many questions about Leninism that "the party" gave me "the boot".


Originally posted by Socialistpenguin
...how old are you?

63. :(


Chinghis [email protected]
Yeah, we wanna know every detail of the meeting.

It was over 40 years ago! :o I don't even remember what was said...though I did ask him a question that was, unknown to me at the time, a "sore spot".

I asked about the progress of Cuban industrialization...not knowing that Che (who was Minister of Industry at the time) was engaged in a controversy with Fidel (and the Soviets) about the future direction of the Cuban economy.

Che wanted the Russians to build modern industrial plants in Cuba so it could be more independent; the Russians were pressuring Fidel to keep Cuba in a semi-colonial status -- growing sugar for the USSR and importing consumer goods from the USSR and the Warsaw Pact countries.

I remember at the time thinking that Che seemed somewhat distracted by my question and that his reply was less than enlightening -- but none of us had any idea that he was getting ready to quit the Ministry and go back to being a guerrilla fighter.


Ultra-Violence
i would like to know who is redstarr2000m why do poeple like him so much what has he done to earn so much priase frm fellow commrades on this bored

I would like to know who taught you how to spell in the English language...in order that the individual be put up against the wall and shot for criminal incompetence.

I'm sometimes a little surprised at how much credit I get for just making an enormous number of posts on a message board...but I guess that many people like a good deal of what I have to say.

May the trend continue. :D

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[Ultra-Violence]

[QUOTE]I would like to know who taught you how to spell in the English language...in order that the individual be put up against the wall and shot for criminal incompetence.

My bad i made that post at school and i was short on time!

[More Fire for the People]

Originally posted by Ultra-[email protected] 9 2005, 03:17 PM
[QUOTE]I would like to know who taught you how to spell in the English language...in order that the individual be put up against the wall and shot for criminal incompetence.

My bad i made that post at school and i was short on time!
You still suck at English, your statement should be:
My bad, I made that post at school were I had only a short amount of time.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 10:43 PM

[QUOTE]I would like to know who taught you how to spell in the English language...in order that the individual be put up against the wall and shot for criminal incompetence.

My bad i made that post at school and i was short on time!
You still suck at English, your statement should be:
My bad, I made that post at school were I had only a short amount of time.
Your English sucks as well.

Pointing out other people spelling or grammatical errors is one of the most pathetic things a person can do. However, if you feel a burning desire to do so, try and get it right.

I must admit, my spelling and grammar are atrocious.

[More Fire for the People]

I have an excuse though, I'm from the South.

[codyvo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 10:28 PM
I have an excuse though, I'm from the South.
child, been from da souf aint done be no excuse for some of that spell and type jibber, i'ms from floda and i rite and reed real nicely, yessum i does

[lennonist-leninist]

Lol, codyvo is right being from the south is not the best excuse in the world for bad grammer although he did not show the best example either.

[dietrite]

I feel a little more skeptical of this than most of the posters here. Forgive me if this actually did take place, I just don't know if I believe that.

[More Fire for the People]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2005, 01:56 AM
I feel a little more skeptical of this than most of the posters here. Forgive me if this actually did take place, I just don't know if I believe that.
In time you will praise redstar2000 unquestionably and he will have a cult of personality to rival Bob Avaikan and his "maoist"!

[Monty Cantsin]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 04:31 PM
Redstar2000 frequently channels the spirits of Marx, Gramsci, Mao, and Luxemburg but he won't admit it because that would mean he was engaging in religious activity.
What the?

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2005, 02:56 AM
I feel a little more skeptical of this than most of the posters here. Forgive me if this actually did take place, I just don't know if I believe that.
You're forgiven; skepticism is always in order.

Be especially wary of those who say or imply that "because" they met/knew/worked with some famous figure in the past, "therefore" you should accept what they say now.

Karl Kautsky met Marx, worked closely with Engels, and actually put together what became the "fourth volume" of Capital -- translated into English as Theories of Surplus Value.

Didn't mean a thing...he still sucked!

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[Warren Peace]

Redstar, what was Che's personality like?


In time you will praise redstar2000 unquestionably and he will have a cult of personality to rival Bob Avaikan and his "maoist"!

What do you have against Avakian? I kind of like the Revolutionary Communist Party. :hammer:

[More Fire for the People]

Originally posted by Revolt Now!@Jul 11 2005, 10:24 AM
Redstar, what was Che's personality like?


In time you will praise redstar2000 unquestionably and he will have a cult of personality to rival Bob Avaikan and his "maoist"!

What do you have against Avakian? I kind of like the Revolutionary Communist Party. :hammer:
Nothing, except for the cult of personality, pseudo-Maoism, despotism, and advocation of a permanent quasi-proletarian state.

[monkeydust]

On obscure Chinese message boards you'll occasionally stumble upon posters claiming to have actually met Redstar2000. I am not naming any names.

[novemba]

Damn Redstar...you're 63!?

Youth is a state of mind...and you had me tricked...

What's it like posting with a bunch of teenagers, and what thoughts do you have on our generation?

If I was your age, when I turned 80, I'd just pick up a gun and go out blazing...

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by Revolt Now!
Redstar, what was Che's personality like?

Well, I don't think that he met with us to display his personality...but it seemed to me at the time that all the Cubans we met were "easy going" by American standards. Cuban "culture" (for want of a better word) is (or at least was) very different from American culture...I don't think we met anyone in Cuba as "intense" as the average New Yorker.

As I noted earlier, Che seemed a bit distracted -- it's likely that talking to a bunch of American revolutionary wannabes was not at the top of his list of priorities.

He certainly didn't behave like a "celebrity" or speak to us in a tone that implied we should kiss the floor in his presence.

Truth is, he acted like a "regular guy"...and not like the "spiritual icon" that he's since been made out to be.

And because he acted like that, none of us came away with the impression that we'd "just had an audience with HISTORY" or any of that crap.

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[Thomas]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2005, 01:52 AM
On obscure Chinese message boards you'll occasionally stumble upon posters claiming to have actually met Redstar2000. I am not naming any names.
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[Entrails Konfetti]

Red Star 2000, do you think Che should be given as much kudos as he has been given ? Did he come of as a caring honest person as were told he was ?


Your 63 ? What about on the practice boards about how to deal with assholes at school who denegrate your ideas ? That made me believe you were 18 years old,if thats how open your were about being Communist back in those days of McCarthyism you must have gotten alot of shit ! What happened to people like you in those days,other than being beaten up ?

[redstar2000]

I suspect the appeal of "Che the Icon" (as opposed to Che the living man) is in his reputation for integrity.

After all, we live on a "planet of liars" (and worse!)...someone who even seems to have lived otherwise is going to generate enormous amounts of sympathy, particularly from the young (who are especially disgusted with dishonesty and hyprocrisy).

Was he as "great" as so many people think? I don't know and I expect there's probably no one besides Castro and possibly a few other still-living contemporaries who do know.

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=35427

But the evidence available to us about his life strongly implies that he really was an unusually honest and plain-spoken revolutionary.

Someone worthy of admiration.


Originally posted by EL KABLAMO
...if that's how open you were about being Communist back in those days of McCarthyism, you must have gotten a lot of shit! What happened to people like you in those days, other than being beaten up?

Well, you see, I wasn't a communist when I was in high school...in those (dark) days, the only high school students who were communists probably lived in Brooklyn or maybe Berkeley. But I was pretty rebellious (anti-racist, openly atheist, etc.) and I did get some crap about it...but not as much as you might imagine. No one ever tried to beat me up, for example, or even threaten me physically.

My "fan club" was a funny one -- kids in leather jackets with duck-ass hair along with a few middle-class "intellectual" types...a strange mixture. After a while, I was sort of "expected" to stir up a classroom...and I tried not to disappoint. :P

I suppose there were people who really hated me...but they kept it well concealed. Possibly because, even then, I was a pretty good debater...and they didn't look forward to the public humiliation I would have inflicted on them. :D

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[violencia.Proletariat]

did you attend the big democratic national convention protest in 68 i think it was? maybe you met my english teacher haha

[encephalon]

stop asking redstar what it's like to interact with teenagers. for fucks sake. For the record, he hates you all and loves the rest of you. Or maybe it's the other way around.

And stop pretending to be grammar police. That's annoying. Grammar enforcement is for people that resent the future.


No one ever tried to beat me up, for example, or even threaten me physically.

Weren't you rather tall? That may have factored into it, although I imagine you were also rather thin.

In any case, it's rare for this generation to "meet" older communists.. someone needs to be there to pass the torch..

Now all you have to do is let go of the damn thing :D

[MeTaLhEaD]

that is so cool!!!
redstar


saludos

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by necro_oner+--> (necro_oner)Youth is a state of mind...and you had me tricked...[/b]

One of my "secret pleasures" on this board is when some cappie in OI responds to my posts like this...

You're just a teenage punk rebelling against your daddy because he won't give you the keys to the car. Wait until you get out in the world and get a real job and you'll abandon all your stupid utopian ideas, blah, blah, blah.

It tells me that, ancient as I feel, I still haven't "lost my edge". :lol:


What's it like posting with a bunch of teenagers, and what thoughts do you have on our generation?

The truth is that, on a message board, nobody really cares how old or how young you might be. If you have good ideas, you'll gain a respectful hearing; if you have bad ideas, you'll get ruthlessly criticized and even ridiculed.

While a high percentage of this board are in the middle or late teens, there are quite a few people in their 20s and 30s here as well. And there's at least two guys here who are not more than 10 years younger than me (in their early or middle 50s).

The internet is really quite amazing, when you stop and think about it. If printing was the major weapon of the rising bourgeoisie, perhaps the internet will turn out to be the major weapon of the proletariat.

As to the new generation of revolutionaries, who knows? Time will tell (as always).


Originally posted by [email protected]
Did you attend the big Democratic national convention protest in 68 I think it was?

No, I was not there...though I did get into a huge argument at work about it. There was one really reactionary bastard there and he and I really went after each other...with all the other guys (who were all older than me) standing around watching us. Nobody got any work done that morning. :lol:


encephalon
In any case, it's rare for this generation to "meet" older communists.. someone needs to be there to pass the torch...

Now all you have to do is let go of the damn thing.

No, you must pry it out of my cold stiff fingers. :lol:

Like the young have always had to do.

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[KC]

What have you done in for communism in your lifetime?

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2005, 11:21 PM
What have you done in for communism in your lifetime?
Tried to figure out what communism really is...and isn't.

Please visit my site and tell me how I did. :P

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[Pawn Power]

In any case, it's rare for this generation to "meet" older communists..

It's wierd because when I was younger, like 13 or 14, I thought it was the other way around because the only communists I knew personaly were in their 50's and 60's. :lol: That was before I got more involved and found other 'younger' communists.

[danny android]

I also thought you were very much younger RedStar. And didn't really like you at first. But i have grown to respect you. Keep up the good work.

[Anarcho-Communist]

It would have been a treat to have meet someone of such significance to this world. Although he wouldn't be what he was today if he was alive.

[encephalon]

No, you must pry it out of my cold stiff fingers. laugh.gif

Like the young have always had to do.


Youth of the world, unite! :P



I also thought you were very much younger RedStar. And didn't really like you at first. But i have grown to respect you. Keep up the good work.


If there's anything you should learn on this forum aside from theory, it's that Redstar doesn't give a damn if you like him.. in fact, I think he encourages you to hate him :D

[danny android]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2005, 08:52 AM


I also thought you were very much younger RedStar. And didn't really like you at first. But i have grown to respect you. Keep up the good work.


If there's anything you should learn on this forum aside from theory, it's that Redstar doesn't give a damn if you like him.. in fact, I think he encourages you to hate him :D
lol. well I still hate him just respectibly. :lol:

[aztecklaw]

Hey youngstas and old peoples!!

I'm 31 years old.

I never was your politically charged idealist. In a nutshell, I was the guy that supported the Gulf War and wanted Saddam and all camal jockeys killed on site.

But that was the Go-With-the-Flow Capt. Patroit, things have changed. I've grown up. I used to listen to Bill O'Reilly and stuff like that. O'Reilly and all the other radio and TV pundits would make me feel good about my life. They made me feel that this country could do no wrong and that we always do what is right and just.

The last two presidental elections and all the controversy that followed forced me to step into the political arena and boy oh boy is it ever an eye-opener.

So I've looked into this and that and brought my head up from the books and learned to embrace socialism, communism, anarchy. This is about the time when I finally learned the story of that guy in the beret

I'm happy that there are very young people looking into this stuff. I think early teens is a good time to become exposed to objective material regarding communism. The youth are still not taited by heavy exposure to propaganda that can sometimes prove irreversable. Also young people, as much as adults deny this, are more aware and more apt to form objective insight given that proper material on the subject is at their disposal.

Nice to see a wide range of ages that agree with communism. :ph34r:

[KC]

Tried to figure out what communism really is...and isn't.

Please visit my site and tell me how I did. tongue.gif

I've gone to your site several times. It's nice, but I think it would be better if you didn't put it in message board format (with all the quotes and everything). Haha have you ever thought about writing a book?

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by Lazar
Haha have you ever thought about writing a book?

Not very seriously; finding a publisher would be a near impossible task.

Truth to tell, I have found the "message board format" especially suited to my own "abilities" (:P). I am a "reactive" rather than a "proactive" writer; I find it much easier to comment on what others have said than to initiate a discussion from the very beginning.

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[Archpremier]

as ancient as I feel...
Don't feel ancient, Redstar. As far as anybody need be concerned, you are as young as I believe you deserve to be (which is young, don't worry). :D

This is going to sound weird, but I had you pegged for about a 70-year-old who knew how to think like a intelligent, well-formulated, verile teenager. Hell, I guess I just can't balance like veryone else.

Keep thinking, keep writing, and strength be with you.

[dietrite]

Truth to tell, I have found the "message board format" especially suited to my own "abilities" (). I am a "reactive" rather than a "proactive" writer; I find it much easier to comment on what others have said than to initiate a discussion from the very beginning.

Haha, loser.

kidding (kind of)

[novemba]

Well isn't this a nice little ego boost? Har har, on the real though, you deserve it.


I am a "reactive" rather than a "proactive" writer; I find it much easier to comment on what others have said than to initiate a discussion from the very beginning.


So were all the communist thinkers basically. Lenin definately was, they just didn't have the internet back then.

You should right a book, or at least put everything you want people to remember in one place. Cause I consider you a great theorist of my our generation, and you'll serve as inspiration for years to come...

[rahul]

my que: after your experiences ............DO you believe that armed struggle is the only way for revolution or...........?

[KC]

Not very seriously; finding a publisher would be a near impossible task.

I don't think finding a publisher would be too hard if you actually looked. There are many small publishers that are willing to put books with controversial ideas out into the open. I mean, all the books I have have been published, and they're pretty controversial. You just have to look.



Truth to tell, I have found the "message board format" especially suited to my own "abilities" (tongue.gif). I am a "reactive" rather than a "proactive" writer; I find it much easier to comment on what others have said than to initiate a discussion from the very beginning.

Slap an introduction on there, take the counterpoints and bold them or incorporate them into the body, paste your response, stick a conclusion on there, and there you go! A chapter in your new bestseller which I hope to pick up in the next year or so. :P

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2005, 01:24 AM
my que: after your experiences ............DO you believe that armed struggle is the only way for revolution or...........?
Yes, I expect proletarian revolution to take the form of an armed insurrection.

There have been many ways proposed (and many tried) to effect significant social change by "peaceful methods"...but I have not seen any of them work in my lifetime.

That's not to suggest that everyone on this board should purchase a firearm and start taking shooting lessons. I think it likely that you folks will be my age or older before proletarian revolution is "on the agenda" in western Europe...and I would be really shocked if Americans were "up for it" before 2100.

But it is to say that we should start telling people the truth right now and from now on: the only practical way to get rid of an old ruling class is to violently overthrow it -- it will never be "persuaded" by "peaceful means" to "step down".

It may "sound crazy" to people now -- in 50 or 100 years, it will be plain common sense.

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[Camarada]

if you actually met him, where was this meeting taking place, how did you go about meeting him, and did you and che talk in english or spanish?

[Camarada]

there is a reason RedStar is known as RedTsar...

[Camarada]

So funny, did you know I met Lenin?

Yeah, happened to travelled to Moscow, saw Lenin had a chat with him (even though I didn't speak Russian) , talked about a few things, he was distracted y'know from the Revolution and all...

seriously I have to wonder why people will easily believe this bullshit, this is just a ego-boosting RedTsar-worship piece of crap thread...

[danny android]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2005, 09:28 PM
So funny, did you know I met Lenin?

Yeah, happened to travelled to Moscow, saw Lenin had a chat with him (even though I didn't speak Russian) , talked about a few things, he was distracted y'know from the Revolution and all...

seriously I have to wonder why people will easily believe this bullshit, this is just a ego-boosting RedTsar-worship piece of crap thread...
umm. what?

[monkeydust]

Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2005, 09:28 PM
So funny, did you know I met Lenin?

Yeah, happened to travelled to Moscow, saw Lenin had a chat with him (even though I didn't speak Russian) , talked about a few things, he was distracted y'know from the Revolution and all...

seriously I have to wonder why people will easily believe this bullshit, this is just a ego-boosting RedTsar-worship piece of crap thread...

As much as I am a cynical arse - and I hope Redstar doesn't chuckle/smorker's cough as I write this - I actually do believe him on this one.

The reason being that, if he really wanted to make a big deal of it, he'd have brought it up on more than a couple of occasions. In fact before this thread I've hardly seen him mention the matter.

Besides, the bloke doesn't need crafty methods to get new followers: he has enough already (ironically most of them are probably Chinese Maoists, but hey).

[Xian]

Yeah RedStar by looking at your name and Avatar it looks like you're my age-18!

I agree with you that it will be a long time before a real real socialist movement in the USA.


It may "sound crazy" to people now -- in 50 or 100 years, it will be plain common sense.


I agree that humans will progress and start to trust eachother more, and people will recognize that capitalism is hurting more.

I have a few questions for you though:

-Did you talk with Che in English?

-What is your opinion on the socialist youth? Do you think many of us will grow out of it when we encounter the "real world"? What about all those kids becoming stockbrokers?

-Since you're pretty old now, what do you think about death and being an atheist? Are you at peace with it, even without beleiving in an afterlife?

-Are you more calm, after so many years, in respect to the right, now that you have gone through your life?

-Lastly, do you have any children? What are their opinions on socialism? Also, when we become parents, how do you suggest we raise our kids to be compassionate to the poor, and to learn love others?

Thank you,
Peace + Much respect,

Xian

[Urban Guerrilla]

Originally posted by redstar2000+Jul 9 2005, 05:19 AM--> (redstar2000 @ Jul 9 2005, 05:19 AM)
Socialistpenguin
...how old are you?

63. :( [/b]
"One of the heroes of our struggle, Comandante Crescencio Perez, entered the Sierra at 65 years of age and was immediately one of the most useful men in the troop." - Che Guevara

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by Camarada+Jul 17 2005, 04:20 PM--> (Camarada @ Jul 17 2005, 04:20 PM) if you actually met him, where was this meeting taking place, how did you go about meeting him, and did you and che talk in English or Spanish? [/b]
The meeting was in a hotel in Havana -- a small conference room. A translator was present -- but he mostly translated Che's replies from Spanish to English. I had the impression that Che understood a considerable amount of spoken English but did not feel comfortable speaking it himself (sometimes he would ask the translator to clarify something we had asked).

The meeting took place on his initiative...evidently, he wanted to "check us out". We didn't even know we were going to meet him until he entered the room -- our Cuban hosts just told us we had a chance to meet a "prominent revolutionary leader" if we wanted to.


Originally posted by [email protected]
What is your opinion on the socialist youth? Do you think many of us will grow out of it when we encounter the "real world"? What about all those kids becoming stockbrokers?

Some will; certainly a lot of people from the 60s put their tales between their legs and crawled back to their capitalist masters.

And some will not...like me.

I think probably class origins has a lot to do with it. I came from a working class family and never had more than a tenuous grip on "middle class standards". The people who abandoned revolutionary politics did have real options for a "sweet life" -- well-to-do parents who would financially back them in preparing for a new career and future suck-cess.

But some of that abandonment did result from the nature of the left itself in those days. We were very much in the shadow of Lenin and particularly Mao -- and there were a lot of groups that ruthlessly used people up and threw them away.

More than one ex-Maoist said that after being expelled from the party, s/he had to figure out what s/he was going to do "now that I'm a civilian again".


Since you're pretty old now, what do you think about death and being an atheist? Are you at peace with it, even without believing in an afterlife?

Of course. All things considered, I've led a pretty full life...and I certainly don't want a protracted old age in a hellhole "nursing home". When my ancient carcass finally gives up the ghost, I expect it will come as a great relief.


Are you more calm, after so many years, in respect to the right, now that you have gone through your life?

Yes. A long life gives you a sense of perspective on history -- you get used to the idea that things will never develop as quickly as you would like.

Einstein is said to have remarked in his last years, "Mankind is very stupid and progress is very slow." I don't feel as pessimistic as he did...but there are times when I think he had a point.


Lastly, do you have any children? What are their opinions on socialism? Also, when we become parents, how do you suggest we raise our kids to be compassionate to the poor, and to learn love others?

No kids. I figured out fairly early on that children were a "luxury" that I would never be able to afford.

But I (and all of us) should remember what it was like being a kid. If you remember the bad parts about being a kid, then you know what not to do...and that all by itself is a huge step forward.

My suggestion would be to take the trouble to reason with your kids...get their little brains used to the idea of having to explain why they want this or don't want that. And then, if you can manage it, respect their reasoning...if they come up with good reasons, agree with them!

They may not grow up to be communists...but they won't be mindless jerks either.


Che Guevara
One of the heroes of our struggle, Comandante Crescencio Perez, entered the Sierra at 65 years of age and was immediately one of the most useful men in the troop.

A better man than I...but then there have been many such.

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[guerillablack]

Redstar when did you start using a computer. Do you remember the first computers ever made? Do you remember the first Mac commercial?Do you think Che would use a Mac or Windows PC. What was Che wearing. IF Che could dress like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs who would he dress like. Was Che smoking a cigarette or cigar? Would Che ban weed? How long did it take Che to grow a beard.

thanks

[OleMarxco]

And since we're all cleanin' the air, I might add to the pile of curiousity...Was Che sittin' in a pink impala '68 with leopard leather-interiors and shitting on the caviar? Just in case ;)

Gheez, give him a break. I think RedStar only saw him for once, as a one-time glance. Nothin' big, I'd rather ask Fidel :P