NY responsible for London Bombings?

[DarkAngel]

I am not saying I believe this, or that I think its true. But I was talking to a friend, and they said that New York might have had something to do with the London bombings. Why? Because London won the Olympic bid, that New York was so highly hoping to recieve. And trust me, I live in NYC, they wanted it. They had 2012 signs on subways, people giving out fliyer, they even wanted to build a whole new sadium. And when that didn't go through, they scrambled to make a plan B. Transforming the Yankees (or was it the Mets) Stadium to suit the needs of the 2012 Olymic games. Anyways I wanted to see what you guys think about this theory...

[Thomas]

Right, although I believe there's people in New york who would do this as revenge, I can't see it happening because...

a) It's too late to organize, this kind of bombing takes a lot of time and effort to put together, plus the odds of getting caught are massive.

b) Where would get the bombs? They couldn't get them past customs, and it'd be difficult to get the equipment and hardware needed to get the bombs ready in time.

c) I couldn't see them hitting in such a co-ordinated fashion, you have to remember the bombs in the tube were designed to go off as the trains passed each other, that type of planning takes weeks if not months.

d) I'm 99% sure the bombing was to disrupt G8, rather than having anything to do with the Olympics.

[Zingu]

Sorry, but killing people over sports? I think there are more definative reasons than that! :lol:

My best bet would be the Islamic extremists or more unlikely, but a possiblity: the IRA.

[Organic Revolution]

that seems just a little bit crazy. i dontthink it is possible.

[Loknar]

I believe islamists already claimed responcibility....

[Bugalu Shrimp]

It goes to show how idiotic some conspiracy theorists are. Absolute and utter claptrap.

[Jersey Devil]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 08:28 AM
I believe islamists already claimed responcibility....
Incorrect. A group on some Islamic fundamentalist website called "The Secret Organization of Al Qaeda in Europe" claimed responsiblity but this has been rejected by most terrorism experts as a hoax. This is a wikipage on the forum, it seems that the forum is down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qal3ah

The British authorities are currently looking for a Moroccan Islamist who was living in London.

BBC in-depth coverage:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/200...ons/default.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/2005/london_explosions/default.stm)

[TheKingOfMercy]

NY bombing london ? what a load of crap, I suppose the person who wrote that believes in faries and vampires aswel ?

I'll check out those articles though jersey devil, I hadnt heard anything past the muslims claiming responsibility.

[Thomas]

Originally posted by TheKingOfMercy
the Muslims

Muslim's had nothing to do with this, the acts committed on Thursday were against their beliefs. Remember the people who carry out these acts do not act in their peoples name. ;)


Oh and Zingu, the thing with the IRA is it always warned of its bombing and claimed immediate responsibility. And even it didn't, the experts probably would have recognised the traits of an IRA bombing.

[TheKingOfMercy]

Yeah sorry, I wrote that badly, A muslim group had claimed responsibility.

[Loknar]

ok, i wager $100 it was a fundamentalist Islamic group


it was in Britain that come cleric claimed sept 11th was a good thing while he was living off welfare from the British people. they finally arrested his ass in 2003.

[FatFreeMilk]

Here's an article on the Secret Organization of Al Qaeda in Europe : http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=6877
The guy makes sense too.

As for the bombings being a result of NY losing the Olympics, that sounds like a load of crap too. For reals, I mean what kind of shit is that?

[TheKingOfMercy]

We were told it was because the french lost the Olympics, that does seem a tad more plausible than an american city :D :rolleyes:

[Clarksist]

Yeah, its obvious that this is not the reason.

As for fundamental muslims and the IRA. I'd put my money on the fundamentalists. Only because the IRA usually said afterwards that they were the terrorists. Occassionally they would even say before hand.

[RedCeltic]

My best bet would be the Islamic extremists or more unlikely, but a possiblity: the IRA.

The IRA calls in a bomb threat before their bombs go off.

[truthaddict11]

placing the blame on New Yorkers sheesh you leftists are stupid :rolleyes:

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 05:18 AM
placing the blame on New Yorkers sheesh you leftists are stupid :rolleyes:
Oh the irony, you take the words of one person and use them to generalise the lot of us... and you call us stupid. But then again, you were full of shit back in the days when you were a leftist as well, I guess being an idiot doesn't change, even if ideology does.

[Thomas]

According to the experts, the bombs had all the traits of an Al-Qaeda bombing, so it's looking likely it was them. Which most people thought all along.

And truthaddict, fuck off. No (decent) person likes a traitor, no matter whose side they're on.

[Black Dagger]

According to the experts, the bombs had all the traits of an Al-Qaeda bombing, so it's looking likely it was them. Which most people thought all along.

There is however and 'interest' in linking these bombings with al-qaeda no?

[Thomas]

That made no sense :/

[Black Dagger]

Al-Qaeda is the name invoked/envoked? (?) by GW and his allies in the 'scare the shit of your constituents' campaign that has been running since 11/9. Strengthening the 'power' of the Al-Qaeda name by attributing any and all terrorist activity to it also strengthens the position of the government(s). If Al-Qaeda is a 'super'-terrorist group- and this is how it is largely portrayed- the government(s) can generate more fear in the population, and in turn justify more domestic repression and imperialism abroad. The government builds up the terrorist threat, so that it can sell itself as the only force powerful enough to 'protect' us from 'the terrorists'.

[truthaddict11]

Originally posted by Enigma+Jul 10 2005, 04:44 AM--> (Enigma @ Jul 10 2005, 04:44 AM)
[email protected] 10 2005, 05:18 AM
placing the blame on New Yorkers sheesh you leftists are stupid :rolleyes:
Oh the irony, you take the words of one person and use them to generalise the lot of us... and you call us stupid. But then again, you were full of shit back in the days when you were a leftist as well, I guess being an idiot doesn't change, even if ideology does. [/b]
ha up to it again first I am a troll now an idiot but thats you, excuse me for pointing out the stupidity on starting a topic blaming NYC for the terror bombings I dont think that was generalizing, and Thomas how the hell am I a traitor? I used to be liberal and leftist but I am no longer I didnt sell you guys out at all so watch it with those traitor accusations.

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 04:18 AM
placing the blame on New Yorkers sheesh you leftists are stupid :rolleyes:
Seeeshhh you righties have reading problems. I didn't say I believed/supported/or even agreed with the theory, I said a friend of mine told me "his theory" (not a leftist, just a druggie). And I wanted to hear your opinions on it...

[truthaddict11]

and I said it was stupid

[Urban Rubble]

and I said it was stupid

No, you said "lefties", were stupid.

.....and then you posted a cute smiley.

Obviously this is one of the dumber threads we've seen lately, but I still don't understand your sudden bitterness towards "lefties" (as if this "theory" is somehow associated with "the left").

[synthesis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 12:01 AM
Sorry, but killing people over sports? I think there are more definative reasons than that! :lol:
You'd be surprised. (http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/sierra/soccer1969.htm)

[cubalibra]

The bombs were made with military grade explosives. So far, no one has come out to explain how Al-qhaida could have gotten it's hands on military grade explosives.

[Invader Zim]

ha up to it again first I am a troll now an idiot but thats you

You are a troll, you became a troll the moment you started posting capitalist material on an anti capitalist website.

As for idiot, I called you that way back in the day as well, that is nothing new.