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Paradox
8th July 2005, 01:19
*I didn't get a response in the Learning Forum, so I decided to post my thread here, in hopes that someone would know about Marcuse and tell me about him. Plus, I'd like your opinions of him.*

A friend gave me a book which is a collection of essays and excerpts titled Critical Sociology. It was printed back in 1976 and it has some excerpts from Marx and Hegel, but the main focus is on pieces by people from the Institute for Social Research in Frankfurt. Anyway, one of writers is Herbert Marcuse, and it includes an excerpt titled "Repressive Tolerance." I've heard the name Marcuse, and the title "Repressive Tolerance" before, but never read about him or his work. After reading a couple of pages from the excerpt I am interested in knowing who he was, what he did, and your opinions of him. From what I've read so far, his work seems very interesting and relevent. For example, take this quote:


Tolerance toward that which is radically evil now appears as good because it serves the cohesion of the whole on the road to affluence or more affluence. The toleration of the systematic moronization of children and adults alike by publicity and propaganda, the release of destructiveness in aggressive driving, the recruitment for and training of special forces, the impotent and benevolent tolerance toward outright deception in merchandizing, waste, and planned obsolescence are not distortions and aberrations, they are the essence of a system which fosters tolerance as a means for perpetuating the struggle for existence and suppressing the alternatives. The authorities in education, morals, and psychology are vociferous against the increase in juvenile delinquency; they are less vociferous against the proud presentation, in word and deed and pictures, of ever more powerful missiles, rockets, bombs - the mature delinquency of a whole civilization.

According to a dialectical proposition it is the whole which determines the truth - not in the sense that the whole is prior or superior to its parts, but in the sense that its structure and function determine every particular condition and relation. Thus, within a repressive society, even progressive movements threaten to turn into their opposite to the degree to which they accept the rules of the game. To take a most controversial case: the exercise of political rights (such as voting, letter-writing to the press, to Senators, etc., protest-demonstrations with a priori renunciation of counter-violence) in a society of total administration serves to strengthen this administration by testifying to the existence of democratic liberties which, in reality, have changed their content and lost their effectiveness. In such a case, freedom (of opinion, of assembly, of speech) becomes an instrument for absolving servitude.



Your thoughts?

resisting arrest with violence
9th July 2005, 17:09
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Marcuse

dietrite
12th July 2005, 07:56
Read One Dimensional Man, and Eros and Civilization, and you'll probably at least partially dig Marcuse.

Some of his stuff was bad, but mostly, if you even find it interesting not necessarily agreeable, is interestingly good stuff.

Monty Cantsin
12th July 2005, 08:38
Herbert Marcuse the “baby” of the Frankfurt school is an interesting read for his Neo-Marxist views though I don’t like the Freudian theory mixed and then there’s his extreme pessimism that the transformation won’t happen because the social controls are too good.

Paul Mattick’s Critique of Marcuse – Marcuse said himself that the only Critique of his work worth anything is this one -

http://www.marxists.org/archive/mattick-pa...972/marcuse.htm (http://www.marxists.org/archive/mattick-paul/1972/marcuse.htm)

Quinlan Vos
12th July 2005, 09:02
Yes, I like Marcuse. All of the Frankfurt School are worth reading, although that's not to say that they were correct about everything, or that their approach didn't have serious drawbacks. Harry Cleaver's critique of his "philosophical approach" to marxian theory seems valid to me. I also don't like the Freudian stuff mixed in.
Marcuse was a big influence on the student movement in the sixties, especially in the USA.

Monty Cantsin
12th July 2005, 11:59
is that Cleaver critique of the "philosophical approach" online?

RevolverNo9
12th July 2005, 13:16
Anyone else read his Critique on Soviet Marxism?

This is definitely one of the best analyses of the USSR that I have read; it is philosophically both very coherent and cogent, skillfully explaining the theoretical role of the Soviet Union, its aims and its realities.

That's all I've read by him, though I have a burning desire to read his One Dimensional Man.

Monty Cantsin
12th July 2005, 14:40
I've heard thats really good but i havnt been able to find a coppy....could you write a summary of the idea's he talks about?