Existance well what does it matter?

[rebelgames]

I don't go out anymore. I eat, sometimes sleep, smoke, draw, write, read, paint, etc.

I am too consumed by my thoughts and my questions which I'm told I'll never answer. But maybe I will one day. Other's may have failed because they gave up. I'm told I should go out, be with "friends", laugh, and do whatever it is "normal" to do.

But what if all of those things are wrong? I live half in this world of emotions, war, people, malls, politics, media, etc and then half in a world I cannot even identify.

I want to know... what do you think about a few things?

I think we haven't advanced. The only reason we think we have is because Aristotle or somebody else said "A=A and cannot be B." Well can't it be B?

What if there are a million other universes out there?

Even if life is meaningless doesn't it have to have meaning?

Is death just a trap? Is it just the fate of those too careless to figure out how to transcend the walls of existance?

Is it possible to black out all of existance?

Is all of this just madness? Do I seem mad?

Should I give up? Why? Should we all give up? Why?

None of this is coherent. Say whatever you will say. I know half the responses if I get any will all be petty insults.

[Bannockburn]

I think we haven't advanced. The only reason we think we have is because Aristotle or somebody else said "A=A and cannot be B." Well can't it be B?

What do you mean? Culturally, technologically, ethically? Humanity as a whole? Oh, A is A, and not A. Buddhism will teach you that.



What if there are a million other universes out there?
So what if there is. It will be mostly empty space if there is. Get your head our of the cloud kids and stick your belief system closely aligned by evidence, rather than metaphysical speculation. Yet, don't exclude those metaphysical wonders.



Even if life is meaningless doesn't it have to have meaning?
Objectively meaningless, subjectively meaningful.



Is death just a trap? Is it just the fate of those too careless to figure out how to transcend the walls of existance?

Well since nobody has ever experienced death. Transcendence is meaningless.



Is it possible to black out all of existance?

Sure, every time you sleep without dreaming. According to Idealism.



Is all of this just madness? Do I seem mad?
Madness is manufactured, in binary oppositions of sane/mad.

Its not petty, questions never are.

[Organic Revolution]

why dont you go outside.. if you are consumed by these thoughts, act on them. dont let gods moral law stop you.

[violencia.Proletariat]

erm, i think you think about things too much. go get drunk? :(

[Organic Revolution]

stop taking life so seriously.. why dont you go out side. you are wasting your life... you only got one, remeber?

[Hefer]

Hey man I know how you feel, I've been there. I hope there is something after this life, but thats just hope, not certainty. You should not worry to much about wiether God is real or not, or any other universal questions :P. Even thou every person will love to know the meaning of life.

[Pawn Power]

yeah.......about that..........

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 05:13 PM
I don't go out anymore. I eat, sometimes sleep, smoke, draw, write, read, paint, etc.
I suggest you stop smoking and sleep regularly if you can at least... I don't always sleep right and it fucks with me.

Going out can be good; fresh air and environmental interaction is good for a person.


I am too consumed by my thoughts and my questions which I'm told I'll never answer. But maybe I will one day. Other's may have failed because they gave up.

What is the rush? You can still have a life and ask tough questions. Alienating yourself is practically assuring failure.


I'm told I should go out, be with "friends", laugh, and do whatever it is "normal" to do.

That is a poor suggestion; you do need to deal with issues, they never magically handle themselves. I suggest you talk with any friends that might help you.


But what if all of those things are wrong? I live half in this world of emotions, war, people, malls, politics, media, etc and then half in a world I cannot even identify.

The world is a rather fucked up place and I think you need to "sort out your head," but you have to face the world eventually; otherwise life is pointless for you.


I think we haven't advanced. The only reason we think we have is because Aristotle or somebody else said "A=A and cannot be B." Well can't it be B?

I'd say that we live in societies that prize personal material gain and not progress. So progress is mostly an unintentional byproduct if anything, not to mention those conservative forces that what everything to stay the same and those that are looking for the "good ol' days."


What if there are a million other universes out there?

Then this isn't really a UNIverse?


Even if life is meaningless doesn't it have to have meaning?

The purpose of life is to live and you make your own meaning.


Is death just a trap? Is it just the fate of those too careless to figure out how to transcend the walls of existance?

Do you mean spiritually or physically? Either way; people are seemingly not demonstrating much evidence of either, so I suggest you get living.


Is it possible to black out all of existance?

If the Universe expands forever, maybe and if not, not likely.


Is all of this just madness? Do I seem mad?

No and no but madness is a relative term so we could all be a little mad.


Should I give up? Why? Should we all give up? Why?

Give up on what? I suggest you live your life and explore material reality and philosophical matters but remember that politics are fundamentally important to out society.

[gy_mark]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 11:13 PM

I think we haven't advanced. The only reason we think we have is because Aristotle or somebody else said "A=A and cannot be B." Well can't it be B?


good point, and i totally agree. I mean what is A?

[plug]

A is whatever you perceive it to be. And what you perceive is affected by what others tell you, etc. But in the end, you are the one deciding that A is A or whatever else.

I've figured there is no meaning to life. Life is the meaning of everything. There is no such things as "right" or "wrong". Nothing matters except how I feel, so everyone might as well make themselves feel good. If you like pondering over philosophical questions, by all means, do that. If not, go out and hang out with some friends or something.

[Zingu]

What if there are a million other universes out there?

Theres much more than a million universes out there.

[Commie Rat]

If those Million other universes dont touchus then there is no need to currently worry about them, Existance is what you make it, to live in the system feeling safe or to fuck every person you see, this is your choise and as long as you are happy with your choies then your fine.

A=A and B any one thing can be interperted into as many ways as you want it to be, and how you interpert it depend s on your experices of your existance

[rebelgames]

I don't even remember posting this. I get into such crazy moodswings like this.

Interesting.

Thanks for the replies though.

[Clarksist]

I think we haven't advanced. The only reason we think we have is because Aristotle or somebody else said "A=A and cannot be B." Well can't it be B?


The idea is something is what it is, and isn't what it isn't. The "meaning" of life is what it is, but it isn't what it isn't.

Basically, to solve the meaning of life, you have to use this formula you question. Life = Life and cannot be meaning. In other words: the "meaing" of life is non-existent, and the purpose or reason for life is just life itself.

So live and be free. In the words of Kurt Cobain, "It's better to burn out, then fade away."

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 07:21 PM
I don't even remember posting this. I get into such crazy moodswings like this.

Interesting.

Thanks for the replies though.
So... are you going to reply to the responses on your thread? That is the usual standard...

[rebelgames]

no... like i said i dont even remember posting this and i received an email reply and saw that i did indeed write this and now that i see it i am extremely embarassed. so no i dont want to reply to the posts.

[mexican rebel 13]

Dude i think life is to damn complicated to just say it has a certin meaning. I honestly always think that we will just be dead when we die. It will feel just like you felt befoe you were born, but thats just an opinon. In my life i have had a lot of ups and downs but i dont think any thing of it because think about it if you do good in schoo and get a good job and every thing your just going to die any way but what do i know iam still young. If i were you i would just try to get laid and chage something in the world to stick it to the man.

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2005, 11:33 PM
i am extremely embarassed. so no i dont want to reply to the posts.
Why? Maybe productive dialogue will ensue...