G8 Summit Scum

[cubalibra]

GLENEAGLES, Scotland - Riot police clashed with protesters close to the Gleneagles Hotel in Scotland on Wednesday after a demonstration against Group of Eight (G8) leaders ended in chaos. Around 100 officers in full riot gear mounted a baton charge to drive protesters away from a security fence surrounding the hotel, where President Bush and his G8 counterparts were due to meet.

These 8 leaders have caused most of the grief that 2/3 of the world has had to suffer. Can anyone else say, "The time is ripe for revolution."

[Mr Flibble]

In a free country we should have the right to go where we will but this just shows how "free " we are. unfortuntatly we live in (if ur in england or most other "democracies") in a great democratic society where we have a choice of several parties (most of which are pretty much identical). its unfortunat because people really think how they vote and what they do impacts the politians. untill people wake up and realize the leaders like Blair, Shroderer..you name them dont really care what we think or what we want we cant have a revolution because ppl still belive we can change things through voting

[KR1Z4]

i guess it's another temporary movement... after the G8 ends...with the *leaders* decisions...everyone will continue his ordinary daily life...
what we need is making the situation more serious...and not jst a one or 2 days movement...

[respect]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 08:18 PM

what we need is making the situation more serious...and not jst a one or 2 days movement...
I agree. There should be a day devoted once a week to resisting the system. Like Sunday used to be "holy day", it should now be anti-capitalist day. Let's start it NOW!!

I know, that wouldn't be a very practical method........
Yes, we need to do more. But it seems (at least where i live in UK) difficult to break free from the chains of the repetitive patterns of daily life.

[bolshevik butcher]

yeh, the police were terrible. Thye stopped some people leaving edinburgh, and then cancelled the march, only to decide to allow it to go ahead again. However earlier in the day, small ands of protestors attacking police vans wasn't good. Organized violence is osmetimes good, however unorganised small bands of groups basically being vandals isn't.

[YKTMX]

I was at the demo and my mum was a steward and she said that the protestors near the gate were to blame for "noising up" the police - believe me, she doesn't side with the pigs lightly.

Still, the police's behaviour when it came to the demo's off/on was terrible, as was there searching of everyone on the buses.


It was a good day though. :)

[resisting arrest with violence]

Show me some pictures will ya?

[bolshevik butcher]

yeh, in soem instances the protestors have been causing trouble. Most have been peaceful and there has been evidence of police brutality.

[YKTMX]

Originally posted by Clenched [email protected] 6 2005, 09:32 PM
yeh, in soem instances the protestors have been causing trouble. Most have been peaceful and there has been evidence of police brutality.
Oh yeh, most were certainly peaceful and the police, especially the steroid fuelled stormtroopers that make up the riot police, have been heavy handed. As I say, my mum just told me what she saw and she didn't think the pigs were totally to blame for the trouble.

[bolshevik butcher]

No, unforutnatley from what i've seen they weren't. There were instances of stupid anarchists attacking police vans.

[symtoms_of_humanity]

Originally posted by Clenched [email protected] 6 2005, 09:38 PM
No, unforutnatley from what i've seen they weren't. There were instances of stupid anarchists attacking police vans.
whats so wrong about that, peacfeful protest does nothing but make noise, its good to know some people will take it a step furthuer, then after that you need a furthuer step, revolutions have never been waged peacefully

[riverotter]

I don't think it was just the rowdy protestors that got beat - I heard about a girl who was peacefully protesting (she and others had linked arms and were pushing to get past a line of cops) and they punched her in the face!

I could probably dig up some more fun stories but I think that's upsetting enough.

[symtoms_of_humanity]

I just see nothing wrong with people fighting cops, they are the real solid force of oppresion and you need to stand up with them, they are the dogs of capitalism along with the military

[Anarchist Freedom]

I agree While just being violent for the hell of it is pointless if people work collectively with solditary it can be a worthwile action to use violence during protests.

[bolshevik butcher]

Originally posted by Anarchist [email protected] 7 2005, 01:42 AM
I agree While just being violent for the hell of it is pointless if people work collectively with solditary it can be a worthwile action to use violence during protests.
Yeh, organised violence might be ok. However this was not that, it was just being violent for the sake of it.

[cubalibra]

Sometimes, people are paid to infiltrate the protestor groups and cause chaos to lessen public sympathy with the protestors. That is what the FBI and the CIA did during the Civil Rights demonstrations in America in the 60's.

[bolshevik butcher]

Sorry, but i think that's unlikely in this case. There was too many of them.

[Organic Revolution]

The officer in charge of policing the G8 summit said many of the 1,500 Metropolitan Police officers in Scotland would be urgently redeployed to London... i wonder what will happen with the G8 situation

[Colombia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 01:31 AM
I just see nothing wrong with people fighting cops, they are the real solid force of oppresion and you need to stand up with them, they are the dogs of capitalism along with the military
Yes, people are always attacking the dogs and not the master. I wonder when people will realize this.

[symtoms_of_humanity]

Originally posted by Colombia+Jul 7 2005, 05:20 PM--> (Colombia @ Jul 7 2005, 05:20 PM)
[email protected] 7 2005, 01:31 AM
I just see nothing wrong with people fighting cops, they are the real solid force of oppresion and you need to stand up with them, they are the dogs of capitalism along with the military
Yes, people are always attacking the dogs and not the master. I wonder when people will realize this. [/b]
Good point, but you need to get past the dogs to be able to confront the master, becuase the dogs will always be loyal to thier master

[lucky71777]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 07:21 PM
"These 8 leaders have caused most of the grief that 2/3 of the world has had to suffer. Can anyone else say, "The time is ripe for revolution."
Most definitely- its fact for anyone who has taken an internation relations political science class...

[Dark Exodus]

Explain how skirmishing with the police and causing general disruption will create a revolution? We need the public on our side and attacking the police and vandalising thngs is not the way to do it (that comes later ;) ).

[Warren Peace]

Explain how skirmishing with the police and causing general disruption will create a revolution? We need the public on our side and attacking the police and vandalising thngs is not the way to do it (that comes later ).

Non-violent, reformist protests would probably draw even less attention. At least this way some open-minded people might hear about the protests and consider our cause.

Besides, with guerilla strategy we only need 15-20% of the public on our side to overthrow the fucking right wingers.

[SocialismIsCentrist]

Originally posted by Mr [email protected] 6 2005, 07:35 PM
In a free country we should have the right to go where we will but this just shows how "free " we are. unfortuntatly we live in (if ur in england or most other "democracies") in a great democratic society where we have a choice of several parties (most of which are pretty much identical). its unfortunat because people really think how they vote and what they do impacts the politians. untill people wake up and realize the leaders like Blair, Shroderer..you name them dont really care what we think or what we want we cant have a revolution because ppl still belive we can change things through voting
i believe things can be changed through voting. the electorate provides constant pressure that defines a direction. a long term coherent force the electorate can provide.

the problem with britain is that because of the way the progressive vote is split - the overall force is right of center.

[cubalibra]

That won't work here in America because of those damn electronic black boxes that don't leave a paper trail.