Revolution group

[Claypoolforlife]

Alright my question might seem dumb, but I need a group of like minded individuals to help me ponder this. I am trying to start a group of people who will go out a couple of times a month and fight for justice and such. I dont have alot of money or anything like that. I was thinking about making sandwiches for the homeless and picking up trash. Does anybody have any relatively easy things I can start out with. I cant do alot of extreme stuff because the main person I am working with is very new to the idea of anarchy and communism so I want to slowly show her that side of it. thanks for the help

tim

[Organic Revolution]

food not bombs- vegan cooking for the homless once a week.

yellow bike program- buy a bunch of old bikes paint them yellow and boom you go public transpo.

clean up a beach if its near you.

go through peoples trash and put some of there shit in recycling.

[LSD]

food not bombs- vegan cooking for the homless once a week.

Oh come on. Don't the homeless deserve decent cooking? :lol:


go through peoples trash and put some of there shit in recycling.

Not for nothing, but within capitalism, recycling most products does jack shit.

Studies have shown that most recycling actually damages the environment. It's just a way for the government to claim to be making environmental progress while not actually doing anything.

[Organic Revolution]

does it really harm the enviro? how?

[LSD]

does it really harm the enviro? how?

Whole bunch of things actually.

Transportation for one. Moving all the recycling to a seperate center, then moving the various "recyclables" to seperate processing plants.

Recycling paper and plastic takes a good deal of electricity, which is usually fossil fuel produced. It takes much more power (and hence burns more coal / oil / etc...) to process used paper than to make new paper. Recycling papers and plastics also outputs a great deal of toxic chemicals and waste which are almost always dumped into lakes and rivers.

Recycling platics kills more fish than throwing it away by far.

Paper pulping centers also produce a lot of polluting smoke and processing used paper produces much more than using new paper. The same goes, to a larger extent in fact, for plastics.

And this doesn't even cover all the associated environmental costs of any large-scale industrial duplication!

Now, this doesn't mean that all recycling is pointless. There are some metals, notable aliminum, that are actually very easy and environmentally sound to recycle. Recycling metals is a very good idea. Mining is one of the most destructive activities, and it helps a great deal to reuse what we can.

There are others, such as glass, that are sort of environmentally neutral. Recycling glass does cause damage (transportation, duplication, etc..), but not nearly to the degree of other products. Glass is relatively easy to melt down and so fairly easy to reuse, but, you see, original glass production isn't exaclty a pressing environmental issue, so it's sort of a hollow victory.

Unfortuntately, most of the things we use in modern society are simply not easy to recycle without costing a lot more and causing a lot more damage than starting from scratch.

Especially plastic but especially paper. Recycling paper is one of the most foolish and wastefull activities.

It does absolutely nothing to save trees, all it does is pollute up our water and our air.

Remember, we aren't losing the rain forest to make paper!

[danny android]

Originally posted by rise [email protected] 6 2005, 06:49 PM
food not bombs- vegan cooking for the homless once a week.

Food Not Bombs is a good organization. I am trieng to start one in my town. It is hard to find people willing to donate sometimes but don't get bumbed you will always find somebody. It's a really cool organization check it out.

[CEWS]

About recycling.

I believe you, but can you provide some sources?