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symtoms_of_humanity
6th July 2005, 03:45
Where were they located and what attacks are they know for, and who are some main members and some inspiring quotes by them would be nice if you know any
romanm
6th July 2005, 05:00
Frank Morales I think was associated with L&R and also Chris Day I believe.
I used to read L&R. L&R actually turned me toward a 3rd worldist (not yet Maoist) outlook.
Now, first off.. i am pulling this from memory..
Some of them had an anti-imperialist and 3rd worldist outlook. Sometimes they had a RYM1 political economy. Also, a RYM 1 analysis of whiteness.
I don't think they had a coherent ideology overall, hence the split.
I think they were on the whole lot better than alot of phony Leninists.
Organic Revolution
6th July 2005, 05:07
love and rage were anarchists not leninists.
romanm
6th July 2005, 05:17
Uh - and?
I doubt alot of people here would consider them anarchists. They eventually broke up because "theoretical problems can't be solved within the confines of anarchism"... I am paraphrasing.
My memory isn't perfect, but if I recall they were influenced by maoist mass line, 3rd worldism, National liberation, armed struggle now, "race traitorism", RYM 1, John Sakai, etc.
I am a Maoist and I'd say my view was closer to their's than probably 90% of those who call themselves anarchist on this forum.
Frank Morales is said "perhaps we need to go back to Lenin, but call it something else" in a conversation he had with a Maoist not long ago.. Chris Day became a Marxist-Leninist if I am not mistaken.
symtoms_of_humanity
6th July 2005, 05:26
I wanted to order the LR book but wasn't sure, so did they ever carry out any armed struggle or not
romanm
6th July 2005, 05:31
Not that I am aware of. They did journalism, ARA stuff, I'm not really sure what else.
The main thing about them is that they were what we real Maoists call "proletarian camp", they were friends of the revolution to be allied with and struggled with.
They had mostly an RYM 1 view of the white working class as bought off and parasitic - they were influenced by Sakai's famous book also. They would probably agree in spirit if not wording with MIM's 3rd cardinal point.
There were probably other tendencies within L&R, but the most interesting one was the proletarian camp trend. I'm not sure if those who once had the proletarian camp view still do or not.
symtoms_of_humanity
6th July 2005, 05:40
do you know anything about the weather underground?
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