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Taboo Tongue
6th July 2005, 02:57
Ok so in Communism the basicss of life are provided, but who sets the standards, and how are they regulated? Do I get a house when I legally become an adult, what if I have kids do I get a larger house? How do I get my food? How much food am I allowed?
How do people receive these and other "basics" in a communist country?
Well, in anarchy, you can decide for yourself how you want to have housing.
danny android
7th July 2005, 00:51
I figure there would be some sort of council to decide these things. You probobly would be given a house to meet your needs. So yes you would have a larger house if you had children, or if you were singel you might just get an appartment. I don't know it would be whatever the communist governmnet you had in place decied i guess.
enigma2517
12th July 2005, 19:34
Food would be pretty trivial I'd say, we have a pretty advanced agricultural technology sector as it that can produce a ton of food. Unless there was a problem with actually getting the food around I doubt there would be much of an issue there.
In the beginning we'd probably have to ration though. Pretty simple, you get a few people survey and the stocks and predict how much food we'll have comining in over time and then divide that by the local population and you can say that each person can get this much.
Housing is trickier.
http://reality.gn.apc.org/econ/gik1.htm
That might be something to ponder about.
JazzRemington
12th July 2005, 20:16
The community would probably come together to decide. Odds are the houses people live in currently in their community, with a few obvious exceptions, would be acceptable already.
Entrails Konfetti
13th July 2005, 01:36
Originally posted by
[email protected] 12 2005, 07:16 PM
The community would probably come together to decide. Odds are the houses people live in currently in their community, with a few obvious exceptions, would be acceptable already.
...Well mine still needs ALOT of fixing up, and I need a bug-man to come an visit.Sometimes I wake up with a cock-roach in my mouth,would anyone like a kiss? Maybe some oral sex ?
I wish the revolution would hurry the fuck up,I'm sick of helping to pay mortgage and I could finally get this place fixed free of charge.
enigma2517
13th July 2005, 02:31
A note on production in general after revolution:
Like Jazz already mentioned, people (and production) are already in some reasonably efficient ways. Capitalism, afterall, does support life. Not very well of course, but regardless, things are still in a way that "work". The amount of food being grown or the number of health care facilities established is already at least somewhat proportionate to the population.
Chances are we wouldn't need to start from scratch and determine every single things "use-value" and oversee the prioritization of the production of this or that. In the U.S. we have plenty of food, even a surplus often. In fact, we have quite a large surplus of everything. Some key industries would have to be reorganized, DISTRIBUTION would have to be changed, but in a lot of ways things would stay fundmentally the same. Once we are situated we can gradually reduce production of unused goods so that more time can be devoted to other more important things.
Things will need to be tweaked, but not entirely changed. Don't succumb to the notion that we'll need to tear everything down and start a new again.
Edit: I might add that given all this, the chances for a future communist society are quite good. Organization will be rough at first, but the end all result is certaintly acheivable. However, I would like to warn you about centrism and economic planning based on the latter. No top-down structure is going to make this happen! Only with truely autonomous workers councils, based within and representing the community will ensure that all of our needs are meet to the fullest.
Prime example being the Soviet Union. A planned economy helped the Soviets modernize in one generation and fend off a highly mechanized German army. Oh yeah, and then that space thing. Liberating the production potential of the people from capital (at least temporarily) helped create one of the worlds two superpowers. No small feat. However, things got significantly worse once all of the funds went to further military development instead of providing basic necessities such as food and certain other commodities that would improve society and make daily life generally better. The result, not that much different from the rest of history: two imperialist STATES fighting over geopolitical dominance.
Imagine what could have happened if the people had used their newly founded solidarity and prosperity to improve their standards of living.
Entrails Konfetti
13th July 2005, 02:58
Sure the standard of living can easily be raised for everyone in this country.
But, what I find remarkable is how Russias' economy grew from the time of Czar to the period before the arms race. This shows that even backward nations economies can grow.
Just out of curiousity,how exactly did the U.S.S.R promote economic growth ?
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