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totalit
5th July 2005, 19:08
There must be..

monkeydust
5th July 2005, 19:13
There probably is...somewhere, in some form. But then we can never be sure.

enigma2517
5th July 2005, 19:59
highly probable I'd say

KC
5th July 2005, 20:11
The chances that an environment is created that can support some form of life somewhere in our galaxy, much less the universe, is so highly probable that you could basically say "yes".

Organic Revolution
5th July 2005, 20:12
there has to be life on other planets... we cant be the only ones.

Urban Guerrilla
5th July 2005, 20:31
Endless galaxies, BIG never ending universe [debatable], far far away and you think the parasite known as the human race is only existence? There has to be more life :che:

FriedFrog
5th July 2005, 23:32
I'm gonna take a stab at yes. I mean, all this 'UFO' stuff can't be over nothing. Even if only 0.1% of all 'sightings' are real, it still proves theres something out there.

Untill the day we do prove it, we can just watch Alien and hope to hell it's nothing like that.

LSD
5th July 2005, 23:35
There's probably some form of life out there somewhere.


I mean, all this 'UFO' stuff can't be over nothing.

Sure it can!

More Fire for the People
5th July 2005, 23:37
I cannot say "most definately" but I can say that where theres natural selection, abiogenesis, time, and energy there is a way.

Clarksist
6th July 2005, 03:19
I'm sure bacteria and one celled organisms are everywhere in the universe. So called "intelligent life" I'm sure. But have they ever came here... I don't know.

ÑóẊîöʼn
6th July 2005, 04:05
I doubt that we' are the only advanced lifeofrms in the entire universe - the building blocks of life are everywhere in the universe, and you just have to look at the variety of ife on our own small planet to see that life can live anywhere it damn near pleases.

restin256
6th July 2005, 05:52
I think that bacterial life is pretty much a given, and the real question is over if they evolved into intelligent life forms. There was just single-celled organisms on the earth for about three billion years before multi-cellular organisms came about, and the events that led to that would probably be pretty independant.

Of course, I&#39;m hoping that there&#39;s other intelligent life in the universe - if so, we&#39;d prove the religous nuts wrong. >.<

h&s
6th July 2005, 16:59
According to egg-head physicists the probablitity of there not being life on other panets is negligible&#33;

fernando
7th July 2005, 00:11
Isnt this a simple calculation of &#39;chance&#39; (I dont know the english definition for this kind of calculations), you have the amount of stars in our galaxy, then the number of planets each star could sustain, how many of them would have an Earth like situation (position, size, etc), then the chance how many of these could create life.

In our galaxy alone there would be chance, lets not even get started with the universe there would be so much more&#33;&#33;&#33;

Don't Change Your Name
7th July 2005, 04:45
What is "life" anyway?

ÑóẊîöʼn
7th July 2005, 05:06
Originally posted by El Infiltr(A)[email protected] 7 2005, 03:45 AM
What is "life" anyway?
I hate it when people play the definitions game.

If it reproduces, breathes, shits, reacts to the environment, and eats, then we can be pretty sure it&#39;s a living thing.

Biologies that don&#39;t meet all these criteria (such as virii) are oddities, but fairly obvious ones at that. I doubt we&#39;ll miss any form of life we come across.

bed_of_nails
7th July 2005, 07:31
Originally posted by Lysergic Acid [email protected] 5 2005, 03:35 PM
There&#39;s probably some form of life out there somewhere.


I mean, all this &#39;UFO&#39; stuff can&#39;t be over nothing.

Sure it can&#33;
Seriously, look at the people these "Aliens" abduct.

They are 30 year old, high-school dropout, drunk, extremely ugly and often overweight men who got something stuffed in their ass in the name of science.

Personally if I am going to be pushing probes into somebodies ass I am heading for the playboy mansion instead.

More Fire for the People
7th July 2005, 15:34
Originally posted by bed_of_nails+Jul 7 2005, 12:31 AM--> (bed_of_nails @ Jul 7 2005, 12:31 AM)
Lysergic Acid [email protected] 5 2005, 03:35 PM
There&#39;s probably some form of life out there somewhere.


I mean, all this &#39;UFO&#39; stuff can&#39;t be over nothing.

Sure it can&#33;
Seriously, look at the people these "Aliens" abduct.

They are 30 year old, high-school dropout, drunk, extremely ugly and often overweight men who got something stuffed in their ass in the name of science.

Personally if I am going to be pushing probes into somebodies ass I am heading for the playboy mansion instead. [/b]
or farmers. All they remember is the anal probes but they do much more and they usually choose these type of people so incase something went wrong no one would miss them.

FriedFrog
7th July 2005, 20:27
Personally if I am going to be pushing probes into somebodies ass I am heading for the playboy mansion instead.

What did Hugh ever do to you?&#33;


What is "life" anyway?

http://calspace.ucsd.edu/virtualmuseum/litu/01_1.shtml

caliban
24th September 2005, 13:42
Without a doubt there is life out there. Is it life as we know it? HELL no&#33; We have this longing as a race to find something out there that looks like us, or at least close to us. The chances of finding "us" out there.....who knows. Then again, would you want to find us if you were looking?Let&#39;s face it, we are a young race, on a young planet and our growth thus far has been rough. If we are being "visited", what are the chances that they would want to walk out of their UFO on the front steps of the UN building to usher in a new age of understanding?As far as Billy-Bob the farmer being probed....again, what are the odds that a highly advanced race would come all the way here to jam a metal rod up some bumpkins ass? That sound more like something we would do.

Sir Aunty Christ
24th September 2005, 14:17
Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 5 2005, 09:02 PM
Endless galaxies, BIG never ending universe [debatable], far far away and you think the parasite known as the human race is only existence? There has to be more life :che:
My sentiments exactly.

Except on the "parasite" thing. ;)

amos
25th September 2005, 13:13
I think its fairly likely that some form of life has evolved on other planets. But I&#39;m not so sure about the likelihood of self aware, intelligent life having evolved, elsewhere.

Cheers
Amos

Forward Union
25th September 2005, 21:31
What&#39;s more intriguing is that, perhaps out there...there is intelligent life, that developed parallel to us...and unlike us found equally intelligent life nearby, and now trade&#33;

Or perhaps somewhere far away there are interplanetary, inter-species conflicts...maybe, even coalitions between species. Maybe they have found us? and are working on a way to communicate? who knows?

once you realise the possibility of alternative life....so much becomes possible.

ÑóẊîöʼn
25th September 2005, 23:21
Our first encounter with intelligent alien life is likely be either with very primitive or very advanced in relation to us, as the chance of coming across a species that developed at the same time and at the same rate as us would be microscopic, to say the least.

THIS PAGE (http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/rocket3aa.html) makes some very accurate assumptions in my view.

FleasTheLemur
26th September 2005, 10:26
Life? Yeah. Intelligent life? Possible. Intelligent life that&#39;s &#39;more advanced&#39; than we are? Less likely then you&#39;d think.

Let&#39;s look at this objectively.

It takes a lot for physical evolution to get rolling. A lot of potential races eventually die out for numberous reasons before they even get the chance to be sentient like we are.

Next, we have to have the development of language. While we do have birds that talk and apes that do sign language, most of the time you have to keep telling them with this or that means or else they&#39;ll eventually forget. We&#39;re the only species that can talk, expecially to the point at which we&#39;re talking now. ...and let&#39;s be honest, the development of language is a HUGE step. It probably takes thousands of years to learn.

Finally, these aliens would have socially involve. The construction of civilization hasn&#39;t been done on the backs of happy campers. It&#39;s been forced by the kings and clerchy. A lot of earlier attempts at early civilzation ended with the masses running off and living in a tribal society. You also have to pull them away from the ooga-booga, hocus pocus of relgion and get them to think more along the terms of science and reason. Then this slave-ran society has to evolve into a feudal society and then evolve into a capitalist society. Then it has to over come all the political strife on that planet WITHOUT using any sort of doomsday weapon. Then finally, the planet would have to evolve into true socialism, so that it could coexists peacefully.

As you can see.. a lot of things could go wrong in the evolution of an sentient species. I wouldn&#39;t be suprised if space was full of nuked planets. However, I also won&#39;t be surprised if aliens was holding back contact until Earth became socialist.

Che NJ
26th September 2005, 12:54
It takes a lot for physical evolution to get rolling. A lot of potential races eventually die out for numberous reasons before they even get the chance to be sentient like we are.

Next, we have to have the development of language. While we do have birds that talk and apes that do sign language, most of the time you have to keep telling them with this or that means or else they&#39;ll eventually forget. We&#39;re the only species that can talk, expecially to the point at which we&#39;re talking now. ...and let&#39;s be honest, the development of language is a HUGE step. It probably takes thousands of years to learn.

Finally, these aliens would have socially involve. The construction of civilization hasn&#39;t been done on the backs of happy campers. It&#39;s been forced by the kings and clerchy. A lot of earlier attempts at early civilzation ended with the masses running off and living in a tribal society. You also have to pull them away from the ooga-booga, hocus pocus of relgion and get them to think more along the terms of science and reason. Then this slave-ran society has to evolve into a feudal society and then evolve into a capitalist society. Then it has to over come all the political strife on that planet WITHOUT using any sort of doomsday weapon. Then finally, the planet would have to evolve into true socialism, so that it could coexists peacefully.
I totally agree. A species would be lucky if it developed physically before it was wiped off the planet for one reason or another. If it managed to develop the right kind of brain, that we would call intelligent, then it would still have to develop culturally and technologically. All within a certain ammount of time. A civilization&#39;s biggest problem is longevity. It&#39;s only a matter of time before some disaster either natural or created by that species could kill them off forever.

I don&#39;t believe we will ever find intelligent life. Even if we find a planet that can suppoert intelligent life, we would have to be there at the right time.

Des
26th September 2005, 13:22
yeah i&#39;d say so..

but i dont think we will ever make contact with other intellegent life...

i&#39;d love for it to happen tho..

Gnosis
26th September 2005, 14:39
What is "life" anyway?

This made me smile.


Is life here?

Is life there?

What is "Life" any way?

Keep on asking, you&#39;ll get an answer.

Taboo Tongue
8th November 2005, 23:26
(Sorry for bringing up a semi-old topic but)
I won&#39;t beleive there is intellegent life out there until there is proof.
To me it is to much like beleiving in a god.
Just because your sad and think a certain god can make your life better, doesn&#39;t make that god real; in the same way that just because you think it&#39;d be lonley with only life on earth, doesn&#39;t make life elsewhere real.
&#39;Probability&#39; says that lifes likley on other planets; I missed the equation that led to this assumption.
Ancient historians could have thought "There&#39;s grass on earth, so there&#39;s grass on Mars," which we know is not true, but for their day this may have seemed very plausable. But to say "There&#39;s life here, so there&#39;s life elsewhere," is just as silly.

If you beleive in aliens with no facts, why not just beleive in gods with no facts too?

ÑóẊîöʼn
9th November 2005, 00:31
But to say "There&#39;s life here, so there&#39;s life elsewhere," is just as silly.

As a bald statement, it is indeed fallacious. But life elsewhere in the universe has yet to be completely ruled out, unlike God.

Don&#39;t forget, extraterrestrials are most likely tiny microbes, and as such won&#39;t be very communicative :)

ÑóẊîöʼn
9th November 2005, 00:32
And locked.