Revolution in the USA

[novemba]

A revolution in the USA would be the act of defying the beast from inside its stomach. It goes without saying that a revolution here would be truely unique, but what exactly would be unique about it? In this topic I would like to discuss what steps would need to be taken in order to spark the revolution? To gain popular support? To destroy the old system? If we destroy the US, we destroy capitalist countries all over the world. It would be domino effect because the worlds markets are all built on US bonds. If there was another stock market crash, the world would not arise from the ashes untouched. The attacks would have to co-ordinated. Slowly take out the major capitalist cruches. Destroy credit card companies. Crash the stock market. Start killing of all the leaders that deserve it. Take control of the government, in fact just destroy it. If any of this could happen the world would indefinately be changed, but it's up to us to change it in the right way.

What do you think?

[Jesus Christ!]

I'm not going to be able to give you a step by step guide but I think what is going to have to happen first is a mass gathering of revolutionary leftists and planning. A large gathering of anti-capitalist information to be spread through out the country to give people atleast some knowledge. Then I think large non violent protests. That will get large media coverage and the cops will end up looking like the bad guys as long as every stays non violent. Then we will have a massive backing through out the country. So we continue to have massive non violent protests. Once we get our ranks large enough we buy and disperse guns. We do that until we succed. In ideal situation we would have ins with hih ranking millitary officals that can supply us or get more troops for us.


Obviously very basic and please be gentil I'm relativley knew to this kinda thing, these are just what I would think it would take to be succesfull.

[danny android]

we definitly need to spread anti-capitolist sentiments through-out the US. People need to see the lies that they are being told. Create a leftist media, guerilla radio and tv stations, underground newspapers, educate the youth. We must spread the idea of communism and anarchy to all people. Once we gain enouf popular support then we can organize mass strikes and protests within a state capitol. If you can shut down the capitol city and drive out the old regime you can establish a new government within the state and declare it socialist. This of course is assuming that the federal government does not get involved and stop the whole revolution (by force), in that case we're fucked. And the federal government will definitly get involved so we are probobly screwed this way. But it is a thought.

[Organic Revolution]

i think this post is a little bit over thee edge... details of attacks ect.

[novemba]

indeed, i agree with JC, cept for the whitehouse part...you'd get demolished and they have silo's and passages to camp david and shit, theyre all too ready for an attack...something else maybe...and this is getting detailed, for those of you on the board who are ready for direct action PM me, we're gonna start real soon...

[novemba]

back to theory.

What would need to happen in:

1 City
2 Suburbs
3 Rural Areas

[KC]

Or you don't talk about this because it will do nothing but get you a visit by the FBI. There's no point in talking about this anyways until a revolutionary force is organized, so why are you doing it? Any conversation here would do more harm than good.

[cubalibra]

It is true that the US government is scared of the people rising up together. Look what they did to MLK when he planned on bringing 1 million of the nation's poor to Washington D.C. for the Poor People's Campaign.

[lennonist-leninist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 05:29 AM
Or you don't talk about this because it will do nothing but get you a visit by the FBI. There's no point in talking about this anyways until a revolutionary force is organized, so why are you doing it? Any conversation here would do more harm than good.
Lazar is right that descussion of this could get you into trouble. But when your talkin about a revolution in the US there are other places in the world that are on the brink of a revolution as we speak. You should be see what thay have done to bring apone a revolution and try that hear.

[danny android]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 05:29 AM
Or you don't talk about this because it will do nothing but get you a visit by the FBI. There's no point in talking about this anyways until a revolutionary force is organized, so why are you doing it? Any conversation here would do more harm than good.
Yeah that is a very good point.... How about we just umm.... Delete this.

[riverotter]

We're going to be watched by the FBI, anyway - there could well be agents reading this right now. Hopefully, we're careful about where we log on from so we can talk about important things without getting ourselves jailed.

And I think this is important - so we can recognize an opportunity and seize it when it arises. Lenin had to threaten to leave the communist party in Russia before they'd get their rears in gear because they didn't feel the time was ripe - although, of course, it obviously was.

I think revolutution in a highly industrialized country will be quite different from the USSR, China or what's going on in Nepal right now. In undeveloped countries, you build up support in the country and slowly, over the course of years, encircle the ruling class in it's cities. We can't do that here - any fledgeling revolutionary group would be wiped out long before building up support.

What we'll need is the development of a revolutionary crisis, something along the lines of what was going on in the 60's, but even more. We need a situation in which the ruling class has been forced to take actions that alienate vast masses of people, not just the poor and oppressed who already hate them, but even the normally complacent middle class. Then, when the ruling class itself is divided and fighting amongst itself, we're going to need to take the major cities and move out from there.

And we need to take advantage of a brewing revolutionary crisis long before it actually develops - which is why we should be thinking now. The neocons and their rabid dogs, the christian fascists, are rapidly taking this country down the road to a fascist theocracy. The situation could quickly spiral out of their control and we need to be ready for it.

[anomaly]

The question in the USA is not how we should wage war but with whom can we wage it. In the third world, we can listen to the people, see what their needs are (usually these needs concern the people's very subsistence). Revolution can be fought, and fought popularly using such a method, because without the revolution, the people's lives themselves are threatened. They not only want revolution, many of them need it.

In the USA, however, most people already live quite comfortably, and many believe their country is one of 'democracy'. How do we gain comrades, guerrillas, out of a group that does not feel threatened? How do we gain comrades from such a group that already has their needs met? This, not the fighting, is what we should concentrate on. How can we win minds, not battles?

[cubalibra]

You gather up support from the peasants of the US from which there are millions.

[slim]

I would suggest that a revolution in the USA is either simultaneous to the one in the UK to overstretch the USA's armies and give you better public american support; or after it with UK military support.

[novemba]

I would gladly speak with anyone about this in person...but that's just not possible, we need to all instant message each other and set up a chatroom or something...PM me if you want to