IS there law in communism

[symtoms_of_humanity]

Are there laws in communism, and if it is statless how would one keep the area conjoned, becuase if each community had its own power and made its own decisions(like the Soviets) then that would just cause more petty countrys if you will, and war would erupt because one community would have something another needed

[redstar2000]

Here is a recent thread on the subject...

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=36910

And here are two collections which contain more detail...

The Communal Polis - Identity and Organization in a Communist World (http://redstar2000papers.com/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1098908960&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)

Crime & Punishment--Some Brief Notes on Communist Justice (http://redstar2000papers.com/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1083339099&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)

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[symtoms_of_humanity]

thanks, answered some of my questions

[Entrails Konfetti]

I read your Communal Polis page,good work.
However,I'm still confused does this mean polises will need a bureaucracy or not ? I feel you didn't reach a conclusion.

Surely there will be no centralized bureaucracy over the whole continent but,even if there isn't one ,instead everyone is divided in polises ,how is there no state ?

It just seems the state after Socialism ( I know you think socialism belongs in a museam btw) will be divided into many smaller states. Since,the majority of this forum believes in a decentralized version of the transitory period or socialism ,what difference would it make to help the state wither away if its just going to be like this in the first place ?

You also mentioned how countries like the USA would need to industrialize more,could we still be able to preserve the ecosystem with in this country ?

What about dividing some parts of the land so more homes and businesses could be built ?

Will we all and all be able to balance the ecosystem with the population of people ?

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by EL KABLAMO
However, I'm still confused; does this mean polises will need a bureaucracy or not ? I feel you didn't reach a conclusion.

Yes, when we try to be specific about the shape of communist society, things can get pretty murky.

I find demarchy to be an attractive option for replacing traditional bureaucracies.

Democracy without Elections; Demarchy and Communism (http://redstar2000papers.com/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1083335872&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)

Further Notes on Demarchy (http://redstar2000papers.com/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1083543192&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)


Since,the majority of this forum believes in a decentralized version of the transitory period or socialism, what difference would it make to help the state wither away if it's just going to be like this in the first place?

Very little...that is, if we begin with a "Paris Commune" "state" (which is already radically decentralized) and then replace its political functions with "demarchic groups" that actually do the administrative policy-making and implementation, then the "transition" will be almost "seamless".


You also mentioned how countries like the USA would need to industrialize more, could we still be able to preserve the ecosystem within this country?

I don't see why not. There is present-day technology that would make re-industrialization far "cleaner" than that between 1870-1960.


What about dividing some parts of the land so more homes and businesses could be built?

I think land-use will be far more rational than it is now...but it's difficult to speculate on the details.


Will we all and all be able to balance the ecosystem with the population of people?

I do not know...we will try as best we can and see how we do. :P

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[Entrails Konfetti]

I'm sorry my reply is a bit late.

Demarchy sounds to me like a good idea.

Seeing that the technology is pretty advanced,we could very well research volunteers and put their names in a computer which will choose them randomly from their groups.
For example : Of the african-female section, Emma Jones is chosen to represent her people on the subject of the environment.
For the white males, James Smith is selected.
You get the idea.

I still like this idea of demarchy.

However I don't wish to abandon the idea of Delegates and Federations.
I think they should be formed differently,first off the federation should only be involved on one to a few issues.
Second,the elected delegate should ask the federation what veiws to represent.
Third,the delegate has to consult the federation on forming policies with-in the federation or the conference ,or if it is decided that they are not to agree with the policies.

Simply stated,the delegate is only representitive and actor of their federation interests.They are soley instructed how to act by the federation in which they represent.