The Americanisation of UK schools

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

The British school system, for all intents and purposes, is an extention of the american system.

History lessons now no longer teach us things like 'Waterloo', 'EL Alemein', or anything even vaguley british, now, before you think im some kind of crazed nationalist, im not, im just saying.

It seems now that instead of the people, who vote for the government, instead of them deciding what goes on the curriculum , we have buerocrats in London, deciding, with help from the US, what to include.

If the anyone in Britain really wants to create a communist enivironment, then surley the people should have more controll over things like education and manufacture.........any ideas ?

[CompadreGuerrillera]

i think that the UK is becomming a US puppet, look at UK supporting Bush's war with Iraq, and what u said comrade, really promotes no doubt in my mind that the UK is a puppet(or Blair anyway), of the US

[Jaha]

the US is the worlds most powerful (not best) countries. therefore, it is bound to influence other countries. geopolitics. the US spreads its vile filth.....

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

true, and the filth will infect the uninformed....

[Kez]

last year we did shit on america in 20's and 30's,
next year for politics we do american system,
cant fuckin wait, please not sarcasm

[Field Marshal]

Well you have to keep in mind....

History is written by the conquerers.

[IHP]

Quote: from Sovietsky Souyuz on 8:29 pm on Oct. 22, 2002

History lessons now no longer teach us things like 'Waterloo', 'EL Alemein', or anything even vaguley british,


wasn't it predominantly ANZAC troops at el Alamein?

--IHP

[guerrillaradio]

Well I've studied the Tudors, the Stewarts, the Plantaganets, 1066 etc and I'm fucking bored of English history. I was glad to study the Cold War...

As for English, well we've just finished Streetcar Named Desire, but we're gonna do Dickens and Shakespeare so I guess it's pretty Anglocentric.

I am yet to see much evidence of Americanisation within our education system.

[Angie]

When I was at Secondary College (aka High School) I chose to complete multiple classes of history each year, including obviously Australian (both Aboriginal and White Settlement) but also Ancient (A.) Babylonian, A. Sumerian, A. Egyptian, A. Greek, A. Roman, French, Russian, German, British, Irish, Persian, South African, Latin American... There were no North American orientated studies of any form upon the curriculum, curiously. Might well be different now, I don't know - it's been many years since then.

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

ANZAC troops were at El alemien, but the commander, monty was british, and the pivitol regiment, arguably the 'desert rats' were british, but that aint the point really is it.

The school system tends to vary with areas, so whether you got lucky and got enlgish history , i dont know.

[Comrade Babar]

I agree totally and utterly, Sovietsky Souyuz, why is it that I've been taught nothing about the Napoleonic era yet I've done literally months and months and months on Yank history? Seriously, I'm not xenophobic, I don't mind doing foreign history... I'd just prefer it if it centred around British (or European, that’d be better than American) history rather than American history.

Another thing to note, in all of my History text books Communists are tarred with the same brush as Nazis - and the only explanation of Communism my teacher has given is to give a brief summary of Animal Farm. History is the most political subject there is, far more so than Politics or even Sociology...

[ruttager]

Not to sound like a jerk, but a pretty common joke here in the United States is the fact that whatever we decide to do the British (government) will support it. Of course, it isn't said quite so tastefully.

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

he is right, (ruttager), that when the US government says 'jump', the British puppet says 'how high', now, being british i dont appreciate this, but the government has become detached from reality, it really does need sortin out.

A joke round here is somethin like 'the UN wants no terrorist to have weapons of mass destruction, so when does George Bush loose his ?'

[BOZG]

History lessons now no longer teach us things like 'Waterloo', 'EL Alemein', or anything even vaguley british, now, before you think im some kind of crazed nationalist, im not, im just saying.

I understand you saying that you're not a nationalist but that you'd like to do British history. Britain has greatly influenced history and thus British history is important. Unlike British history, Irish history has not really influenced the world in any significant way and it has become very boring in my opinion as I have done it so many times so I'd like to do British and American history.

[IHP]

"ANZAC troops were at El alemien, but the commander, monty was british, and the pivitol regiment, arguably the 'desert rats' were british, but that aint the point really is it."

Bloody hell, ease up mate it was just a question. Just loosen up a bit ay? :)

Who was it that studied the Plantagenets? that a good time in British history. Did you learn about Prince Llewellyn? and all the battles he and King John had?

--IHP

[ruttager]

Just thought this post was sort of funny. Plus it has that little reference to the UK in it.

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