Suicide Bombing?

[IRANeAZAD5]

suicide bombings/missions has been something thats been used alot through out asia, the palestinians are doing it , iran did it against iraq in the 8 year war( may i also add that suicide missions originated in iran) the tigers of tamil have done it, the japenese have done it, i also heard that korea did it also in its war against america but not sure.

what are your thoughts?

(Edited by IRANeAZAD5 at 1:42 am on Oct. 22, 2002)

[Libertarius]

I'd first like to point out that "suicide missions" did NOT originate in Iran. They have been a last resort for desperate people far back into history. Read about the assasins from India who smoked hashish and went on suicide missions to kill certain targets. You don't need explosives to go on a devastating killing spree.

My thoughts are that it is a last ditch effort to save a country from invaders far better equipped, or so has been the case with Palestine, Iran, and Japan (kamikaze fighters). Another motivation which I am sure plays a big role in some bombings is fanatic religion.

I am almost too bored of this topic to contribute to this again.

[Xvall]

It can be an honerable way to die, or a cowardly way to kill.

[IRANeAZAD5]

suicide missions did originate from IRAN

the word assasin orginated with a SHIA sect in iran, the hasashin, the attackers who launched daring raids against both christian crusaders and sunni muslims. read the oxford dictionary claim that the word evolved from the hashish administered to the young killers before to their missions. The first assassins can be traced to the year 1090 and to a man named hasan al sabbah. his mountain fortress of alamut in what is now IRAN, led to his revered title as the old manof the montain. as a young man he converted to the ismaili sect , an offshoot of the shi'ism. he later on would preach to hundreds and thousands during travels around the area, sabbah stressed the principle of blind obedience and total commitment to the faith. he . they were trained in his compound armed with a single dagger or or swords, the mam managed to build a corps of followers who were prepared to die for the faith or sabbahs whim, the young men would be trained with daggers and swords to carry out missions by throwing themselves on to the enemy.

[Libertarius]

Well you seem to know quite a bit about it. It wasn't IRAN back then, though. It was likely Persia.

[IRANeAZAD5]

Yes it was Iran back then
the name persia was used by foriegners
but it wasnt until the early 1900s reza shah changed it so foriegners would call the country Iran
Iran has allways been called Iran to does living in it
which you may or may not know means the land of the aryans

[munkey soup]

He is correct.

[Comrade Babar]

Not if it involves murdering children as it invariably seems to be with the Palestinians.

[Wenty]

not if it involves murdering any innocent people!

[IRANeAZAD5]

true i agree

[munkey soup]

The palestinians have taken it too far. They are killing indisriminately, just like the Israelis.

[LeonardoDaVinci]

Suicide attacks are always the last option of a desperate person or group who see no other viable alternatives.

You can take the Palestinians for example. They have been continuously subjugated and had their lands expropriated for over five decades under the very nose of the International community. Rather than pursuing a peaceful and just resolution to this territorial conflict, the Israeli government instead embarked on a scheme of mass eviction and expropriation which was initiated by Ben Gurion’s government and still continues to this very day.

On countless occasions, the Palestinians have pleaded to the United Nations to interfere in this conflict and impose its authority in order to force the Israelis into the negotiations table. Nevertheless, the United States (Israel’s closest ally), has consistently used it’s veto right to block any resolutions condemning the Israelis or imposing sanctions against them, and furthermore declared itself the Guardian of the peace process in the Middle East. Naturally, given its bias towards Israel, it has always been more sympathetic towards the Israeli point of view and consequently tried to pressure the Palestinians into accepting agreements whose terms have always been dictated by the Israelis.

The Palestinians have tried to negotiate with the Israeli government (who always had the upper hand) and they have also appealed for international intervention but both to no avail. I am certain that if they are given a just, dignified and genuine peace offer which guarantees their autonomy as a people and ensures that they can cohabit with the Israelis on equal terms then they will cling on to it with dear life. After all, no 16 year old would want to kill him/herself and many others unless he or she has truly given up on life.

[Menshevik]

iraneazad, if suicide missions originated in Iran, what do you call the Spartan stand at Thermopylae?

Suicide attacks are not necessarily the last step of a desperate people, it's often a sacrifice made to save others. In the case of Palestine, I don't think anything can justify the attacks on Israeli civilians, but I also don't think anyone can openly condemn them. Just because one feels helpless doesn't give them the right to have an open season on women and children, especially in "the name of God."

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

Suicide bombings have a way of grabbing attention of the world to their cause, or in the case of Kamikaze, drawing out the A-bomb, i think suicide bombings are for people who have exhausted all other means of communication to the world stage, and killing children though horrendous, and i do not support it, is an eye opener.

[Xvall]

Nice name. It reminds me of this really nice song.

[Sovietsky Souyuz]

what song would that be then ?