ZOMBIE DOGS

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I THINK YOU SHOULD READ THIS.......DISCUSS:

SCIENTISTS have created eerie zombie dogs, reanimating the canines after several hours of clinical death in attempts to develop suspended animation for humans.

US scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for trials on humans within years.
Pittsburgh's Safar Centre for Resuscitation Research has developed a technique in which subject's veins are drained of blood and filled with an ice-cold salt solution.

The animals are considered scientifically dead, as they stop breathing and have no heartbeat or brain activity.

But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the zombie dogs are brought back to life with an electric shock.

Plans to test the technique on humans should be realised within a year, according to the Safar Centre.

However rather than sending people to sleep for years, then bringing them back to life to benefit from medical advances, the boffins would be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours,

But even this should be enough to save lives such as battlefield casualties and victims of stabbings or gunshot wounds, who have suffered huge blood loss.

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During the procedure blood is replaced with saline solution at a few degrees above zero. The dogs' body temperature drops to only 7C, compared with the usual 37C, inducing a state of hypothermia before death.

Although the animals are clinically dead, their tissues and organs are perfectly preserved.

Damaged blood vessels and tissues can then be repaired via surgery. The dogs are brought back to life by returning the blood to their bodies,giving them 100 per cent oxygen and applying electric shocks to restart their hearts.

Tests show they are perfectly normal, with no brain damage.

"The results are stunning. I think in 10 years we will be able to prevent death in a certain segment of those using this technology," said one US battlefield doctor.

[RedAnarchist]

Source?

Is this some sort of new cryogenic technology, or just far-fetched speculation?

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source: www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html

i think it's some sort of cyrogenic techonology

[FriedFrog]

Wow. Very impressive, could prove very useful when it's potential is fully honed for things like gunshot wounds or anything else with massive bleeding.

It could also help solve the riddle of death. This could make or break religion :P

[bed_of_nails]

This was posted about a week ago at the website I visit for my rave news...

I think this is very interesting. It is just one step closer to our own Dawn of the Dead Mwahahahaha!

The possibilities of reviving somebody or something with this sort of technology is an amazing breakthrough that could help save entire endangered species.

[Kitbag]

I think it's an incredible break-through, but I'm concerned as to how far this will go. Tests on humans? It looks as if within the next 10 years we could have an army of the dead. I mean, we can clone, and revive from death? I mean, the Zombie Dog thing will be amazing for Medical Science, I just hope it doesn't go too far, y'know?

[tondraal]

That is playing with nature...I am against that.

I am not a part of any religian but still I think that when somone dies (even an animal..) it mustnt be disturbed....



Anyone knows what happens whit persons "soul", when he/she is ressurected?
If brains start dying and then the persons is brought bavk to life, deos the person have brain damage or perhaps loses vision or something (depending of what part of the brain is damaged).

[Zingu]

The like the idea of "disc people" better that was discussed before...

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I think it's an incredible break-through, but I'm concerned as to how far this will go. Tests on humans? It looks as if within the next 10 years we could have an army of the dead. I mean, we can clone, and revive from death? I mean, the Zombie Dog thing will be amazing for Medical Science, I just hope it doesn't go too far, y'know?

Baseless paranoia.


That is playing with nature...I am against that.

Too bad... we have been 'playing with nature' for as long as we have had fire.


I am not a part of any religian but still I think that when somone dies (even an animal..) it mustnt be disturbed....

Why? It's dead, it won't even notice.


Anyone knows what happens whit persons "soul", when he/she is ressurected?

There is no soul.


If brains start dying and then the persons is brought bavk to life, deos the person have brain damage or perhaps loses vision or something (depending of what part of the brain is damaged).

According to the report, the dogs did not suffer brain damage. There may be some long term effects but doubtless they will become apparent during observation.

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Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 07:07 PM

I think it's an incredible break-through, but I'm concerned as to how far this will go. Tests on humans? It looks as if within the next 10 years we could have an army of the dead. I mean, we can clone, and revive from death? I mean, the Zombie Dog thing will be amazing for Medical Science, I just hope it doesn't go too far, y'know?

Baseless paranoia.
I am just curious how you can say things like that after your little weapons of the future thread.

I think you had some more bizarre things than a necrotic army listed.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Originally posted by bed_of_nails+Jul 1 2005, 02:27 AM--> (bed_of_nails @ Jul 1 2005, 02:27 AM)
[email protected] 30 2005, 07:07 PM

I think it's an incredible break-through, but I'm concerned as to how far this will go. Tests on humans? It looks as if within the next 10 years we could have an army of the dead. I mean, we can clone, and revive from death? I mean, the Zombie Dog thing will be amazing for Medical Science, I just hope it doesn't go too far, y'know?

Baseless paranoia.
I am just curious how you can say things like that after your little weapons of the future thread.

I think you had some more bizarre things than a necrotic army listed. [/b]
They revived the dogs, they didn't zombify them. I doubt they had a hankering for brains.

If these dogs are zombies, then so are people who had heart attacks and have been revived with defibrillators.

Besides, the point of my weapons thread wasn't "omg omg we're all gonna die!!!1111!!!oneone!1!" It was a discussion about to utilise future weapons technologies to further the goals of classless society.

Besides, zombies as described in popular culture make stupid weapons.

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Originally posted by NoXion+Jun 30 2005, 07:52 PM--> (NoXion @ Jun 30 2005, 07:52 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 02:27 AM

[email protected] 30 2005, 07:07 PM

I think it's an incredible break-through, but I'm concerned as to how far this will go. Tests on humans? It looks as if within the next 10 years we could have an army of the dead. I mean, we can clone, and revive from death? I mean, the Zombie Dog thing will be amazing for Medical Science, I just hope it doesn't go too far, y'know?

Baseless paranoia.
I am just curious how you can say things like that after your little weapons of the future thread.

I think you had some more bizarre things than a necrotic army listed.
They revived the dogs, they didn't zombify them. I doubt they had a hankering for brains.

If these dogs are zombies, then so are people who had heart attacks and have been revived with defibrillators.

Besides, the point of my weapons thread wasn't "omg omg we're all gonna die!!!1111!!!oneone!1!" It was a discussion about to utilise future weapons technologies to further the goals of classless society.

Besides, zombies as described in popular culture make stupid weapons. [/b]
I think what he meant by "Zombie" was the dead and dying that had been "Frozen" and pumped full of chemicals and blood before being brought "back" to life.

[Anarchist Freedom]

Freaky...

[Clarksist]

That is horrible that they put those dogs through that.

The brain damage is a terrible treatment of an animal's life. It seems like a gigantic seperation when people find it okay to test out on animals but not humans, though I realize many people find humans "higher beings" than animals... it still bothers me.

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Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 12:47 AM
That is horrible that they put those dogs through that.

The brain damage is a terrible treatment of an animal's life. It seems like a gigantic seperation when people find it okay to test out on animals but not humans, though I realize many people find humans "higher beings" than animals... it still bothers me.
I agree, so therefore I put forth my new plan:

Lets use Christians instead.

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or nazi's,they're always good.................for medical experiments obviously.

[che's long lost daughter]

Poor dogs.! WHy don't they just let them rest in peace???

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 07:47 AM
That is horrible that they put those dogs through that.

The brain damage is a terrible treatment of an animal's life. It seems like a gigantic seperation when people find it okay to test out on animals but not humans, though I realize many people find humans "higher beings" than animals... it still bothers me.
I actually heard that they were looking for human volunteers.

Morally speaking it better to first do such experiments on dogs first than humans.


Poor dogs.! WHy don't they just let them rest in peace???

Poor mosquitos! Poor AIDS virus! Why don't they just let them rest in peace.

[Oglaigh na hEireann]

I think that the use of this "technology" will not lead very far. It is basic medical theory, that has been around for years. The only difference now is that they are actually trying it on something living. This has nothing to do with putting an animal or human into a "zombie" like state, probably no one will ever be able to figure that kind of science out.

I Do think that this could be very benificial to those who suffer from gunshot wounds etc, but there is still one large obstical; that the patient has to recieve this treatment very very quickly. The kind of injuries that would merit this kind of treatment would be so severe that it is very unlikely that the patient would make it to hospital, or even leave the site of injury.


-Sean

[Gunman]

Originally posted by bed_of_nails+Jul 7 2005, 07:54 AM--> (bed_of_nails @ Jul 7 2005, 07:54 AM)
[email protected] 7 2005, 12:47 AM
That is horrible that they put those dogs through that.

The brain damage is a terrible treatment of an animal's life. It seems like a gigantic seperation when people find it okay to test out on animals but not humans, though I realize many people find humans "higher beings" than animals... it still bothers me.
I agree, so therefore I put forth my new plan:

Lets use Christians instead. [/b]
:lol:.

Maybe this will make immortallity possible to all of us.

[Fidelbrand]

ice-cold salt soultion?

So there might be a possibility that Pamela Anderson with her silicon bags be a zombie after her death?

[h&s]

These dogs may be revived from clinical death, but what is the effect on their brains and personalities? I would be very surprised if they were not altered.