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cccpcommie
30th June 2005, 05:58
please can someone im me on aim and talk to me how communism can work. i have just simple questions thats all..id use the site but im not on it enough..i learned a lot from this site but its simple law questions in a communist govt. please help
my aim is&nsbp;&nsbp;DAVi Vodka BLYad&nsbp;&nsbp; thank you my name is sergei

cccpcommie
30th June 2005, 05:59
davI vodka BLYad

Organic Revolution
30th June 2005, 06:15
if you dont understand communism why do you have a communist user name?

sanpal
30th June 2005, 09:19
Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 04:59 AM
davI vodka BLYad
Парень, здесь так выражаться не надо. It is a serious forum.

RedAnarchist
30th June 2005, 09:30
how is it communist when it includes the letters CCCP?

Ifoughtthelawandiwon
30th June 2005, 11:46
Ok then what are your questions matey? I can only really tell you how i think it would work but im sure that would help ya. tell us ya questions and ill try n answetr them the best i can.

Organic Revolution
1st July 2005, 23:32
Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 02:30 AM
how is it communist when it includes the letters CCCP?
well "communist"&nsbp;&nsbp;

Kitbag
2nd July 2005, 15:23
If you dont understand communism, why do you have a communist user name?

He asked a question politely enough, there's no need to bite his head off about his name. I could ask you if you've risen up lately or something really annoying but I don't because I respect you, at least show some courtesy.

cccpcommie
3rd July 2005, 04:47
im born in the soviet union..its just simple questions..like what if the workers take over..point people into power..and those people make gun laws..take guns away from people..who will fight them? and how

Archpremier
4th July 2005, 06:18
im born in the soviet union..its just simple questions..like what if the workers take over..point people into power..and those people make gun laws..take guns away from people..who will fight them? and how

Oh, the woes of tyranny. That's the problem with советский социализм. First, there shouldn't really be anyone that has the power (whether they were pointed into it or otherwise) that can strip the people of their guns. From the standpoint of the latest stages of socialism immediately before reaching communism, elected representatives should only elaborate upon democratic initiatives of the people. But even in less mature socialism, no governmental body, albeit an elected one, could simply sit down one day and come to the conclusion that the people can no longer have their guns. That would have to come from the people themselves (and it's not likely the people would deprivilege themselves so). In authentic socialism, it is not the job of the representatives to tell the people what to do, only to perform the tasks handed down to them by the people. All besides, somebody would need to enforce the "no guns" decree, and, in a socialism that planned on really going anywhere, the "somebody" would be nothing more than a fluid militia of the people themselves.
These are some of the things that doomed the poor Soviet Union.


It is a serious forum.

What!? Then what in the name of hell am I doing here? :P
Don't be such a tight-ass, comrade.

Forward Union
4th July 2005, 12:02
Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 03:47 AM
im born in the soviet union..its just simple questions..like what if the workers take over..point people into power..and those people make gun laws..take guns away from people..who will fight them? and how
Communism would have no state = no goverment = no arbitrary laws.

That's how law would work.

cccpcommie
4th July 2005, 14:18
a teacher of mine consulted with me and tried to explain how there is little or no progress in a communist society, how could i have argued that? im sorry if you think these questions are rediculous but i want to hear to the people..

bunk
4th July 2005, 14:24
Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 01:18 PM
a teacher of mine consulted with me and tried to explain how there is little or no progress in a communist society, how could i have argued that? im sorry if you think these questions are rediculous but i want to hear to the people..
what did she say to 'explain' that 'there is little or no progress''

Dark Leth
4th July 2005, 21:58
She didn't. (Most likely)

The Putin government has a very anti-Communist propoganda teaching line now. I'll try to do some more research and see what the exact details of it are.

Super Mario Conspiracy
4th July 2005, 21:59
a teacher of mine consulted with me and tried to explain how there is little or no progress in a communist society,

On the contrary, there is more progress in a flexible society such as communism. Hundreds of years ago, when the empires of the world still used slaves - how did they progress? Why didn't the slaves revolt? They were many more than those who enslaved them. The answer is easy - they had a gun to their heads.

This isn't the case for communism, but it is for capitalism. No work = no money. No money = no house or food, health insurance etc, = they die. Money is the great gun pointing on all of our heads today.

And not only that, money is required to make progress in the first place! If you took away all money, would people all of a sudden do nothing? Would the film-makers and the actors stop working? Would you stop living, or helping your family, your friends? No, you would not.

Mankind invented currency - in fact, the first written words ever discovered were actually writings of ownership - of property, not of history, science, beliefs etc. But before that, what did humans do? They still progressed, they still invented, they believed in all kinds of things - they put the very first pieces of the great world that we live in today!

So you see - mankind will always progress - may it be at a fast or slow pace.

Money today is keeping thousands of potential "Einsteins" from realising new aspects of science (that could maybe save millions of people from dicease and starvation), art and exploration. Money stops exploration of planets we long ago would know everything about if we lived in communism.

Taiga
5th July 2005, 13:34
Originally posted by Josh+Jul 4 2005, 04:24 PM--> (Josh @ Jul 4 2005, 04:24 PM)
[email protected] 4 2005, 01:18 PM
a teacher of mine consulted with me and tried to explain how there is little or no progress in a communist society, how could i have argued that? im sorry if you think these questions are rediculous but i want to hear to the people..
what did she say to 'explain' that 'there is little or no progress'' [/b]
I guess she said that there is no motivation in Communist society. Motivation like competition (read: MONEY) in capitalist society. No motivation = no progress. A very common logic.

And...

davI vodka BLYad
Это просто глупо.

cccpcommie
5th July 2005, 16:17
lol taiga..She is a He..a true nazi, he basically kept referring to the S.U. and nazi germany..i kept telling him that those countries were corrupt and that wasnt communism.hes blonde..blue eyes..and kept pissing me off. he was talking about a race and why would you help the slower people..im like to make progress together..then hes like what kind of race would it be..would people come see the race if they were all to finish together..i sed probably not but i would help the other people not let them slack in the back. god he's such a weiner..

Taiga
5th July 2005, 16:45
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 06:17 PM
lol taiga..She is a He..a true nazi, he basically kept referring to the S.U. and nazi germany..i kept telling him that those countries were corrupt and that wasnt communism
So you mean he said Nazi Germany was a communist country? Ah, that's sweet... :lol:
What does he teach? I mean, how illiterate he is then... A teacher... <_<

cccpcommie
6th July 2005, 05:59
no, that they were socialistic..

Non-Sectarian Bastard!
6th July 2005, 14:58
Nazi Germany wasn&#39;t socialist. How does he support that claim? Nevermind any Hitler quotes, Hitler would say to workers what they wanted to hear, to peasants the same and to the capitalists also. Each group got to hear that the new Germany was for them and that they would the most important class.

On the other hand Hitler did support the capitalists. This by breaking up trade unions, providing slave labour, killing off the socialist bits in the "night of the long knives". A true socialist wouldn&#39;t support capitalists, would he?