Economic Embargo!

[Libertarius]

Why are living conditions in communist countries so low? As we all know, the US is imposing an economic embargo on Cuba. People in Cuba are hungry, and have a lack of public services, but this is NOT because it is communist. It is because it is not allowed to prosper.

I have often wondered what motivation the US could have to be so cruel to communist countries. My first idea is this: The rich bastards at the head of the government want to keep their capitalist system. If people saw how well a communist country treated its inhabitants, the US would no longer be considered such a great place to live, and that would hurt their patriotic pride.

Put it this way. The French Revolution gave the working class and bourgeoise in other European countries the idea that they could fight back and get what they wanted, freeing themselves from the monarchies that ruled them, and kept them from living happily. No matter how hard the aristocracy and monarchies of other countries tried, the news spread.

From 1815-1848, a considerable number of revolutions broke out in Europe, resisting authoritarian rule, and casting off the Divine Right of Kings (similar to Bush's influence in the States right now). The success of the American and French revolutions encouraged the peoples of Latin America in their own struggles for independence.

The US does not want the communists to show the American people a better way of life. They want to keep the wealth in the upper class. It's all about greed, which is the dominant factor in the US government.

To me, historical events like that outbreak of revolution are inspiring and encouraging. It could happen now.

I would like to know what you think the US has against communist countries?

(Edited by Libertarius at 5:11 am on Oct. 18, 2002)

[Panamarisen]

Libertarius, just remember enslaved (for instance, by capitalist way of thinking) people are AFRAID of true free people.
Cops and the average citizen were afraid of hippies back in the 60´s and 70´s. They were just not trying to oppose their way of life and thinking..., they were actually afraid of the freedom of their mind and spirit, which is something they never even attempted to achieve!

HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

[trebboR]

Adn Marx also said, communism has to be worldwide to work. And Panamarisen is correct too. People are afraid of freedom of their mind and spirit. That's why communism in it's first step will probably go through some tough generations because people are still afraid of the freedom and they will have to get used to not living in a capitalism society.

[Libertarius]

I certainly wouldn't be afraid of living as communist. My anger at this capitalist system is uncontrollable. I see things every day that disgust me, things that most people don't see. Living conditions in Canada have always been thought of as some of the best in the world. I beg to differ. The poor people still suffer just as badly, and I feel guilty just being successful.

Also, that's a very good point Panamarisen, but it depends on the kind of communist society that is established. Sometimes, like in the case of Stalinism, you lose your freedom and individuality in communist society. I strongly believe that it can be done without such strict authoritarian rule.

[Panamarisen]

My opinion is that Stalinism is not, at all, a Communist society. It´s a reppresive way of doing politics, just as the Nazis did.
Western societies MADE ABLE for this kind of madness to happen, much more BEFORE it actually happened...! And that´s why we all got to be so alert about everyday politics, everyday social problems, and do something about it!

HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

[bluerev002]

sure you might want to live in a communist state, but what about all the ppl who have gotten all they WANTED in life? what about those ppl who dont really care to read or look around them, only care to see what their favorite pop starst are doing, what they are gonna wear and if something looks ........"tight". my english teacher once said that when he was a kid everyone had a sence of what was going on around them, everyone knew about politics. now a days kids dont care for that cuz they care for music and the new fashions, take in mind that when i sayh kids (i know i know i sometimes talk as though im like 40 or summfin, saying kids these days like that) i mean the majority of these kids.

[Libertarius]

That's an obvious factor. People who have more than others have should have the option to leave the country and start anew elsewhere. Government is notorious for making decisions the bourgeoise and proletariat don't like, so why not rearrange its structure completely?

The rich would eventually have to adapt to communist society, but their lifestyles wouldn't decline any lower than others, and they would find common ground, and learn to respect the community and individuals within it. Yes, communist society would lead to enlightenment if done correctly, and those who object have no place in it.

[Kez]

fuck th communists of cuba,
STOP THE OPPRESSION OF THE WORKING CLASS OF CUBA
that is much more important.
On top of the embargo, Fidel is doing a hash job also, should let real marxism enter cuba, not his remnants of stalinism turn cuba into a bonapartist country
END THE EMBARGO