"the greatest american"

[Red Robe Majere]

the discovery chennel had a show called the the greatest american.
this was the top ten

10. FDR
9. oprah winfrey
8. elvis
7. clinton
6. G. W. Bush (got booed during the re-cap)
5. franklin
4. washington
3. MLK jr.
2. lincoln
1. reagan

what are youre views on this?

[Red Robe Majere]

i forgot to add that the people voted for this choice

[Pawn Power]

Thats a really sad and pathetic list.

[Xvall]

Why aren't I at the top of that list?

[symtoms_of_humanity]

Wow ronald made number one, I hated him, I celebrated his death, its a shame he didn't die when he was shot

[redstar2000]

May I suggest that the Discovery channel's "demographic" is highly skewed in favor of that part of the middle class who would take such a poll seriously?

It's like asking the readers of Rolling Stone who were the greatest musicians in history...some very weird answers are going to emerge.

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[Deutsche Ideologie]

Sad.

[symtoms_of_humanity]

Originally posted by Deutsche [email protected] 27 2005, 02:55 AM
Sad.
No extremely sad and depressing

[Jersey Devil]

Oprah is ahead of a U.S president? Complete imbeciles. I guess this is what happens in an age where every media outlet, with the exception of PBS and C-Span, give 24 hour coverage to Michael Jackson.

[bed_of_nails]

Reagan made it over MLK?

Fuck. I am happy I didnt watch that shit now.

[silentprotest]

i didnt realise the american public where so gullible

[Xvall]

Yes you did.

[bed_of_nails]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2005, 01:50 PM
i didnt realise the american public where so gullible
We believe the sky is purple if you can get a (christian) religious figure to say so.

[Bannockburn]

Ouch. what a list

[Blackflagsmeanfreedom]

:huh:

Uhm, can someone please tell me how Oprah is great? And how she beat a president and how regan beat washington and MLK. The list is beyond sad and is just plain out retarded. Maybe I just don't see how great of a perso oprah has and all the womeruflthings she has done.(sarcasim)

[Organic Revolution]

i should be the greatest american.

[CrazyModerate]

Originally posted by Red Robe [email protected] 27 2005, 02:03 AM
the discovery chennel had a show called the the greatest american.
this was the top ten

10. FDR
9. oprah winfrey
8. elvis
7. clinton
6. G. W. Bush (got booed during the re-cap)
5. franklin
4. washington
3. MLK jr.
2. lincoln
1. reagan

what are youre views on this?
This list is absolute bullshit.

[Sirion]

Slightly off topic, but Redstar, Rolling Stone did actually compile a list of the 100 best guitarists ever:


1 Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 thingy Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden

Since mot people here probably aren't as interested in music as I am, I'll keep it short: Jack White is the 11th best guitarist ever, while Eddie van Halen is number 70?!?

Back on the topic, the Discovery list makes just as little sense. I can understand the historical presidents, but, c'mon, Reagan, Bush?

And Oprah? I know, she's got a (completely ridiculous) TV show, but... the 9th most important american ever? If that is the case, I feel Pee Wee Herman should be at least number 8. :lol:

Then again, as Redstar said, this poll were favoring the middle and upper classes, since the poor people of the USA probably won't spend time and money on such useless votes.

[Andy Bowden]

I would have thought JFK would have been in the top ten, considering his "sainthood" after his assasination.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Ray-gun is number one. What a crock of shit that list is.