How would one stop counter revolutionaries

[symtoms_of_humanity]

How would you stop a counter-revolutionary party or army if an anarchist revolution did occur, seeing as prisons would be gone, and how would one "prosocute" a person if they did something such as murder another for no reason or land or w/e, or child molestation, or rape, I say shoot them in the head, but I think there is a better way

[Hiero]

It isn't as simple as shoot them in the head. It is really hard to know who is a counter revolutionary or a revisionist waiting for a time when he can take control and revert soceity on the capitalist path.

The most current theory for stoping counter revolutionaies is the Maoist theory of cultural revolutionary.

[violencia.Proletariat]

well if it were an army then it would be through conflict. if it were individuals then you just let them talk, they most likely arent gonna take a revolution away from people if the people really feel liberated.

[symtoms_of_humanity]

Can yuo explain what that is, and I meant not the counter revolutionaries, the rapists, child molestors, and murders

[Clarksist]

Anarchism isn't the complete loss of order. What most anarchists believe is the rehabilitation of criminals. So prisons aren't really needed.

And to be fair to anarchists, they have a GREAT point. I don't feel safe around people I know have been to prison... as that doesn't rehabilitate. In fact prisons are crime schools.

[Vallegrande]

I remember Hughey P. Newton saying "The real prison's on the outside".

[Organic Revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 08:21 PM
It isn't as simple as shoot them in the head. It is really hard to know who is a counter revolutionary or a revisionist waiting for a time when he can take control and revert soceity on the capitalist path.

The most current theory for stoping counter revolutionaies is the Maoist theory of cultural revolutionary.
yes... slaughter those who dont conform! great idea..

[Batman]

The Only thing a fat man fears...
The power of an AK47

[symtoms_of_humanity]

I wasn't saying slaughter those who don't conform, I'm saying the only solution I see for stopping RAPISTS,CHILD MOLESTORS, AND MURDERERS would be to shoot them, no prisons, just shoot them, its cheaper and prison sucks, I am asking what would be a way to deal with COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARIES would you put them all with each other, because it would be contridictory to put them into a prison such as Lenin did

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 06:32 PM
I wasn't saying slaughter those who don't conform, I'm saying the only solution I see for stopping RAPISTS,CHILD MOLESTORS, AND MURDERERS would be to shoot them, no prisons, just shoot them, its cheaper and prison sucks, I am asking what would be a way to deal with COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARIES would you put them all with each other, because it would be contridictory to put them into a prison such as Lenin did
why would there be murderers? as for child molesters its most likely the community they were in would keep a very very close eye on them and not let them near children. rapists, again this wouldnt be as big of a problem as feminism should become a larger movement during the revolution, as people become enlightened yadda yadda.

[burn_ladiesagainstfeminism]

QUOTE (symtoms_of_humanity @ Jun 25 2005, 06:32 PM)
I wasn't saying slaughter those who don't conform, I'm saying the only solution I see for stopping RAPISTS,CHILD MOLESTORS, AND MURDERERS would be to shoot them, no prisons, just shoot them, its cheaper and prison sucks, I am asking what would be a way to deal with COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARIES would you put them all with each other, because it would be contridictory to put them into a prison such as Lenin did


why would there be murderers? as for child molesters its most likely the community they were in would keep a very very close eye on them and not let them near children. rapists, again this wouldnt be as big of a problem as feminism should become a larger movement during the revolution, as people become enlightened yadda yadda.

I don't see how a larger feminist movemet will prevent the amount of rape happening, and by saying that you infer that females are the only ones raped.

[Organic Revolution]

why not. train wimyn to defend them selves and there you go.

[burn_ladiesagainstfeminism]

It doesn't matter how much you train woman to defend themselves, its a biological fact that men are physicaly stronger than woman, so unless you want to train every woman into being some kind of black belt in karate the problem will still exist.

[violencia.Proletariat]

if feminism is a much wider concept and is spread men would think women are less than them, therfore their would be more respect for everyone. yeah it sounds pretty unrealistic, more likely a group of people kicking the shit out of the rapist and keeping their eye on them

[burn_ladiesagainstfeminism]

Nate, do you mean if feminism was a much wider concept men would NOT think woman are less than them? But is the reason for raping a matter of inferiority in there eyes?

[Organic Revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 10:31 PM
It doesn't matter how much you train woman to defend themselves, its a biological fact that men are physicaly stronger than woman, so unless you want to train every woman into being some kind of black belt in karate the problem will still exist.
hmm.. a feminist with a lesser view of wimyn.

[burn_ladiesagainstfeminism]

A lesser view of woman?, no i am merley stating a fact, and if I said how strong you are physically had something to do with superiority or inferiority then I would have a lesser view.

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 12:01 AM
Nate, do you mean if feminism was a much wider concept men would NOT think woman are less than them? But is the reason for raping a matter of inferiority in there eyes?
in some ways yes, men think they are superior and can do as they please to women

[burn_ladiesagainstfeminism]

nate Posted on Jun 26 2005, 05:30 AM
QUOTE (burn_ladiesagainstfeminism @ Jun 26 2005, 12:01 AM)
Nate, do you mean if feminism was a much wider concept men would NOT think woman are less than them? But is the reason for raping a matter of inferiority in there eyes?


in some ways yes, men think they are superior and can do as they please to women


So most men rape for the reasons of feeling superior?, is that the same for woman?

[Organic Revolution]

most people rape for a feeling of power..

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 12:37 AM

nate Posted on Jun 26 2005, 05:30 AM
QUOTE (burn_ladiesagainstfeminism @ Jun 26 2005, 12:01 AM)
Nate, do you mean if feminism was a much wider concept men would NOT think woman are less than them? But is the reason for raping a matter of inferiority in there eyes?


in some ways yes, men think they are superior and can do as they please to women


So most men rape for the reasons of feeling superior?, is that the same for woman?
im not saying in all cases. but yes since they feel they are superior thats part of the reason in some cases, they feel women are weaker than them, if they felt like they were attacking someone who could kick their ass they probably wouldnt do it. im not aware of many cases of women raping men, not that it doesnt happen

[romanm]

Amerikkkans are pigs. They're a bunch of parasites who need re-education and learn how to work for once in their filthy lives. "One Big Gulag!" Sure, they'll oink on about how bad socialism is.. They'll oink and oink.. but, they'll be stopped from rampaging the rest of the world.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 01:43 AM
Amerikkkans are pigs. They're a bunch of parasites who need re-education and learn how to work for once in their filthy lives. "One Big Gulag!" Sure, they'll oink on about how bad socialism is.. They'll oink and oink.. but, they'll be stopped from rampaging the rest of the world.
Romanm, if you don't learn how to present a rational and coherent argument instead of these rants you've been posting lately, you are going to end up getting restricted to Opposing Ideologies.

This is not something that I will do at my administrative discretion; it will be the consequence of a vote in the CC...meaning a substantial number of people are getting tired of it.

No one disputes your right to act as an informal spokesperson for MIM's line...but if all you want to do is rant, then it becomes indistinguishable from spamming/trolling.

With the predictable consequences.

http://www.websmileys.com/sm/cool/123.gif

[symtoms_of_humanity]

So your saying base actions on what one person said, if a women says "he raped me" we all beat the shit out of him and keep an eye on him, sounds kinda primitive to me

[symtoms_of_humanity]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 06:43 AM
Amerikkkans are pigs. They're a bunch of parasites who need re-education and learn how to work for once in their filthy lives. "One Big Gulag!" Sure, they'll oink on about how bad socialism is.. They'll oink and oink.. but, they'll be stopped from rampaging the rest of the world.
Not all americans are pigs, I know many people who are hard workers and scrape by day to day and week to week waiting for their next pay check, its not the workers fault the few on the top overprice items, and make them pay for water, and heat, and human nessecity, the main american problem is the Apathy and Ignorance to other ideas, not working, and as for Socialism, it does suck, putting people into Gulags restricts freedom and makes them slaves, which is worse than the wage slaves the capitalists churn out

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by symtoms_of[email protected] 26 2005, 08:30 PM
So your saying base actions on what one person said, if a women says "he raped me" we all beat the shit out of him and keep an eye on him, sounds kinda primitive to me
yes thats exactly what im saying ;) . im not really sure what to do, because putting someone is prison doesnt solve shit.

[symtoms_of_humanity]

Yea I know lol, thats what the question was for, o well tho, thanks for any help you have tried to give Nate