Communism

[cultural_revolutionary]

ok say you went to school in a communist society all your life, went to college then graduate school then got a doctorate in whatever and now you're on your own with a job and you know you have worked hard to get where you are. your neighbor who didnt go to school and wasnt educated has a job and makes the exact same amount of money as you. doesnt that get rid of a motive of being educated and working?

[STI]

People would get educated because they want to know things and want to be able to do a certain job. While you were at school, your neighbour was doing stuff too, just not book-learning.

People would be doctors because they want to be because they're interested in that line of work. Think about it. Even today, would you want to go to a doctor who only does it for the money? What other stuff would he do to make extra money? Maybe mishandle your case, prescribe unnecessary drugs, etc. No thanks.

[Batman]

Aye, that first post smacks of materialism and even greed.

[Jawnnyh]

Firstly there wouldent (and shouldent for obvious reasons...) be any money. Secondly the work would be divided. you choose your profession and aspiration. If, for any reasons, there is a lack of workers in a perticular field, then the gouvernment should come in demanding that, (for example) everyone fills in an assigned job for X amount of hours (still keeping your normal career) to fill in...

thats the way i see it anyways

[danny android]

Currency is an invention of man and therefor is not necesarry for life. In an ideal society people will be paid in resources necesarry for life. This will elemenate any greed any class seperation. If you are a doctor and you make the same as everyone else and are on the same level as everyone else then what more do you want. Doctors will still command a lot of respect from people, I mean they save people lives for crying out loud but they should concider that to be worth all the education that they had to go through. In an ideal society atleast.

[Hiero]

In the higher stages of Communism it is actually hard to say how it would work.

Your feelings towards work are baised on the society we live in now, it is believe that in communism things like work no longer becoming a neccessity but a livelihood, so it will become habitit.

So you wont have any negative feelings to someone who didn't reahch higher education, but still earns the same.

[cultural_revolutionary]

whats the motive of working though. you don't get anything out of it accept u fulfil ur aspiration. why would u have an aspiration if there wasnt a reason. people under capitalism (im not a capitalist by the way) know that when they get old enough they have to have a job, and they decide what they want to do. i think some sort of reward system should be involved weather its money or not.

[Urban Guerrilla]

There are jobs that involve laboring, that doesn't have a high demand of mental skill, and then there is book/computers/skill jobs that do. If you want to do back breaking work, you can do labor, or you can do a desk or sit down job. I prefer doing labor since I find it most rewarding :che:

[cultural_revolutionary]

that doesnt answer my question

[Taiga]

That's stupid. You know, some people become doctors not because they want to be rich but because they want to cure others. They feel a moral resposibility towards the humanity.
I personally don't care if my uneducated neighbour gets the same material stuff that I get. Probably he's lacking of something more important: feeling of satisfaction, feeling that he benefits the people, respect.

[OleMarxco]

There would be no "education" and "schools" under Communism, since they fuckin' sucks, and are BORING. All you would need is, say, a 2-wekk course of learnin' the job before taking it and then headin' in there to learn from live-experience? That's so, eh. And there's no "getting paid" the same amount either, since no-one has money and nothing requires money, it's all free, baby. Only rationed n'stuff in distrubution center.. Rekogniez ;)

[Taiga]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 01:08 PM
There would be no "education" and "schools" under Communism, since they fuckin' sucks, and are BORING. All you would need is, say, a 2-wekk course of learnin' the job before taking it and then headin' in there to learn from live-experience? That's so, eh. And there's no "getting paid" the same amount either, since no-one has money and nothing requires money, it's all free, baby. Only rationed n'stuff in distrubution center.. Rekogniez ;)
That's funny.
Two-week course of surgery?
And then learn from "life-experience"?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

:unsure:

[pofi]

The doctor would have study 10 years, but after ,he works with cute nurses, he is someone important in hospital, every day of work is different, he get respect and independance at his work.

The janitor which never been to school clean the toilet, mop the floor, every day is the same fuckin routine maybe for the rest of his life.

But the doctor would not want to clean the toilets and for that he respect the janitor that wake up every morning even if he know that his day will boring like each others, and for that he deserve the same life conditons than the doctor.

In the society everybody need everybody no mather what he do.

[Organic Revolution]

why are people so obsessed with money... just help people stop caring about money

[Jawnnyh]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 06:08 AM
whats the motive of working though. you don't get anything out of it accept u fulfil ur aspiration. why would u have an aspiration if there wasnt a reason. people under capitalism (im not a capitalist by the way) know that when they get old enough they have to have a job, and they decide what they want to do. i think some sort of reward system should be involved weather its money or not.
Frankly i dont think capitalists workers are more motivated. They dont give a shit about the product they make or how it affect the environement, all the workers care about is getting their check at the end of the month so that they can survive. And everyone would have the same opportunity to be able to persue their passion and aspirations in a communist system.