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RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT
23rd June 2005, 06:43
don’t know where to post this really but its a great piece of Canadian history and its good for every to see anyways

(The begining ) APRIL 1, 1989--->http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-500
APRIL 27,1990--->http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-512
JULY 11,1990 -->http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-523
JULY 19, 1990-->http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-525
SEPTEMBER 1 , 1990--->http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-581 (BEST ONE)
(The end)SEPTEMBER 26,1990-->http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-582 (Sad and crazy)



Hope u found it interesting Comrades ,

RABBIT
FreeChechnya
24th June 2005, 04:10
I am going to say somthing, I am sorry, somthing real, maybe to real for some of you.

I don't know about how it is in Quebec or where you all live, but here in Manitoba it is maybe 5% of the native american population who contribute to society, I feed the rest. I work 2 jobs, 16 hour days, 7 days a week somtimes. I am no racist at all, I am a realist, I have many native friends. Seeing the money my fellow peers and I earn go to such waste as feeding people who are to lazy to work is very discouraging. (I am talking of the ones who CAN work and choose not to). The Welfare system NEEDS to change. This money I am giving up could go to somthing much more beneficiary to the working class. Healthcare, Lower tuition, Forigen Aid etc.... I much rather see it go to someone who needs it or earns it. If you understand what i am saying or would like to refute it please comment.
LSD
24th June 2005, 04:30
If you understand what i am saying or would like to refute it please comment.

On blatant racism?

Why bother. <_<


I am no racist at all, I am a realist, I have many native friends.

Some of your best friends? :lol:


The Welfare system NEEDS to change.

Yes, it needs to actaully help those who need help.

Oh, wait, that&#39;s what you oppose. You only think that people who "earn it" deserve food and shelter and dignity. Hmm... I think theres a name for that kind of bigot, capitalist.


I much rather see it go to someone who needs it or earns it.

"needs it" or "earns it"? Either one?

Well, certainly the first nations peoples need it ...so what&#39;s your problem?
LSD
24th June 2005, 04:34
Fixed the thread title. :lol:
FreeChechnya
24th June 2005, 04:41
Why do the Native Americans need it? get a job. People in Forigen nations that "need" it.. Africa, Latin America, Central Asia. Tell me the reason they need it and please change my mind. Needing it - The people who are on waiting lists because our government wastes it on people who choose not to work, and choose not to make somthing of themselves and be lazy. I needed it, I got a job, I got two jobs. Racism? No I just hate lazyness and ignorance.

If you can earn "shelter, food, and dignity" by having an income and contributing, why should you? Why shouldn&#39;t you be handed everything. I am talking Canada here. You have the chance, why not take it? Communism = Labour...

If we all sat around an expected tell me where we would be?
LSD
24th June 2005, 04:50
Why do the Native Americans need it?

Why do they need food and shelter? um...


get a job.

They have jobs. Those that don&#39;t are generally trying to get them.

It&#39;s only your racism that has them choosing not to work.


Racism? No

No?


Originally posted by BLATANT RACISM
I don&#39;t know about how it is in Quebec or where you all live, but here in Manitoba it is maybe 5% of the native american population who contribute to society, I feed the rest.


If you can earn "shelter, food, and dignity" by having an income and contributing, why should you

"why should you" ...what?


Communism = Labour...

No, Communism = freedom.

Freedom from wage-slavery, freedom from having one&#39;s life and living conditions tied up with ones work.

Communism is not compulsory labour, it is the ending of compulsory labour.
Patchy
24th June 2005, 06:00
Lysergic Acid Diethylamide, I think you&#39;re misunderstanding his original point. He clearly stated that he is not racist, he only hates lazy people. He&#39;s talking about people that are perfectly capable of working, yet choose not to. He supports giving welfare to the people who need it, like he said.


Some of your best friends?

My two best friends are native. I think the same way that he does. It&#39;s not just native people, it&#39;s anyone who doesn&#39;t want to work but can.

We talk of revolution, to a more socialist system, but how is that going to happen when there are people who choose not to contribute? It doesn&#39;t matter what race they are.

In socialism, each gives according to his ability. If you contribute nothing and simply consume, even though you are capable of producing, its&#39;s useless.

As far as I can see, you&#39;re putting words in his mouth.
LSD
24th June 2005, 06:16
As far as I can see, you&#39;re putting words in his mouth.

Direct quote:

I don&#39;t know about how it is in Quebec or where you all live, but here in Manitoba it is maybe 5% of the native american population who contribute to society, I feed the rest.

Considering that this thread is about a native rights protest in the 90s which had nothing to do with "lazyness", I take his posting that 95% natives are lazy to be a racist comment.
FreeChechnya
24th June 2005, 07:02
where do you live LAD?

Where I live I see it daily. I am stating fact not making up an obscene number, not being a "capitalist" or a "bigot". What i see on the streets is truth, not an ideolgy. If I have good friends who are native and work and they say it themselves... then i guess you can call me a racist.
RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT
24th June 2005, 07:33
How did we get on this subject .. n/e ways it was a racist comment I don’t understand how u don’t see that…even if there is some fact in ur statement what was point of the post anyways ..what do u want to tell us ? (besides the fat the u hate lazy people) ;)
cormacobear
24th June 2005, 07:54
Well I too have lived in Manitoba and the social strains on both ends of society are more weighty there, than anywher besides perhaps Vancouver. Most of the money natives get is not from the welfare portfolio. To avoid having to massacre the entire race we signed treaties ensuring them much of what they get.The majority of Natives in Manitoba live on reserves where there are no jobs to be had. Like any minority class there education has been neglected as a result of poverty not Race, and people of any race with little education are the most often unemployed. The efforts to spend more on education in this last generation are beginning to pay dividends and more and more natives are finding rewarding fulfilling work.

If you want to stop paying for there wealfare you should be preasuring to spend more on the quality of life on Canadian Reserves. The problem isn&#39;t going to fix itself and untill we spend enough to fix it we have a responsibility as humans, fellow citizens and the decendants of conquorers to see they are fed. Furthermore we need to find new and innovative ways of bringing jobs back to smaller locations, a less deplorable ones than casinos.
RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT
24th June 2005, 08:04
Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 06:54 AM
Well I too have lived in Manitoba and the social strains on both ends of society are more weighty there, than anywher besides perhaps Vancouver. Most of the money natives get is not from the welfare portfolio. To avoid having to massacre the entire race we signed treaties ensuring them much of what they get.The majority of Natives in Manitoba live on reserves where there are no jobs to be had. Like any minority class there education has been neglected as a result of poverty not Race, and people of any race with little education are the most often unemployed. The efforts to spend more on education in this last generation are beginning to pay dividends and more and more natives are finding rewarding fulfilling work.

If you want to stop paying for there wealfare you should be preasuring to spend more on the quality of life on Canadian Reserves. The problem isn&#39;t going to fix itself and untill we spend enough to fix it we have a responsibility as humans, fellow citizens and the decendants of conquorers to see they are fed. Furthermore we need to find new and innovative ways of bringing jobs back to smaller locations, a less deplorable ones than casinos.
well said . I believe us “canucks” especially have a great duty to help in preserving the Aboriginal cultures .. From Cree to Inuit.. just my 2 cents
Patchy
24th June 2005, 15:05
Back on topic, this thread just went bad.

We learned about this in History class. I like that codename - Lasagna. I didn&#39;t catch it when I read over the articles, but i&#39;ve heard that the blockade also had a large rifle at their disposal that was capable of piercing tank armour, as well as shuttung down any vehicle that came too close (Tear the enging block to shit).

I think it&#39;s bad that it had to go this far, there are reserves across north america, and they are fairly far and between each other when you look at how much land isn&#39;t reserve land. So what do we do? try and build a golf course there. That&#39;s really lame, it seems like a greedy unnecessary move.

Even though it did happen, I&#39;m glad that they stood up. It is their land, what little is left of it, and the least the mayor could have done is respect that, because there were many places he could have built his silly golf course.
RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT
24th June 2005, 20:52
yeha i knoe.. its not even that they were building a golf course they were expanding the old one <_< ..greedy mother fuckers
Commie Girl
24th June 2005, 21:01
:( I clearly remember the Oka Crisis...gratefully it was covered quite well by the CBC and MacLeans. Expanding the Fu**ing Golf Course??? Those rich assholes already waste too much land chasing their balls :lol:

I too live near 4 reserves, although in Alberta these guys have oil money. We murdered the first nations, the treaties we forced them to sign need to be honoured&#33;

I have an adopted native child, and we do what is possible to teach him about his history and heritage. We went to his reserve for a land-claim signing ceremony in 2000, this was for treaty 8, and most of the provisions that were agreed to were NEVER delivered&#33; So in the end it has cost us so much more in terms of money and serious social problems that have become generational. we are now only beginning to realize our responsibilites for this attempted genocide.
RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT
24th June 2005, 23:20
Originally posted by Commie [email protected] 24 2005, 08:01 PM
:( I clearly remember the Oka Crisis...gratefully it was covered quite well by the CBC and MacLeans. Expanding the Fu**ing Golf Course??? Those rich assholes already waste too much land chasing their balls :lol:

I too live near 4 reserves, although in Alberta these guys have oil money. We murdered the first nations, the treaties we forced them to sign need to be honoured&#33;

I have an adopted native child, and we do what is possible to teach him about his history and heritage. We went to his reserve for a land-claim signing ceremony in 2000, this was for treaty 8, and most of the provisions that were agreed to were NEVER delivered&#33; So in the end it has cost us so much more in terms of money and serious social problems that have become generational. we are now only beginning to realize our responsibilites for this attempted genocide.
North Americas quite cultural genocide …. But im glad there are comrades like u on the front lines :D ..how old is ur child??
Eastside Revolt
25th June 2005, 00:00
Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 06:02 AM
where do you live LAD?

Where I live I see it daily. I am stating fact not making up an obscene number, not being a "capitalist" or a "bigot". What i see on the streets is truth, not an ideolgy. If I have good friends who are native and work and they say it themselves... then i guess you can call me a racist.
I&#39;m sorry but your comments have got me all full of adrenaline, I&#39;ll to post as calmly as I can.

I too see unemployed, drug abusing native people everyday. Common sense tells me that there is no such thing as a lazy race. :angry:

I too know many native people who talk trash about native people on a regular basis. I understand the way in which the europeans intentionally destroyed thier culture. I can safely come to the conclusion that that this may be the cause of the self-hate these people feel for themselves, living in a society that degrades them, and ignores thier stuggle.
*Hippie*
25th June 2005, 01:20
I think natives who chose not to work are probably not working because they know they don&#39;t have as much of a chance to advance in the workplace as a white male. That is why lots of people don&#39;t work. They just figure why bother. They would just be making minimum wage for the rest of their lives. What is the incentive? This is under capitalism. They don&#39;t want to be wage slaves because of their race, so they just take what the government gives them to live (which isn&#39;t that much really).

And of course, many of them have little education and develop drug problems. I am not being rascist but this is the situation where I live. I remember a news story broke a few years ago, in the Atlantic provinces, the natives were huffing from gas cans and causing brain damage, not to mention the lysol jokes that go around about them. This is the result of POVERTY. They don&#39;t see any other choice in Capitalism. Many of them I know have trouble even speaking much english. Why aren&#39;t these people treated better?
cormacobear
25th June 2005, 01:23
I too remeber the coverage. The sad thing is if it had once been a white cemetary it would have been covered by already existing law. Native buriel grounds whether on treaty land or not need to be given the same respect we reserve for our own. It was an absolutely disgracefull example of racism in the Canadian judicial system it should never ahve needed to escalate to that point.

I doubt it would peirce tank armour, but it&#39;s possible, and most high powered hunting rifles will stop a vehicle. I&#39;ve checked :D
so I imagine they probably had lots of those rifles anyhting smaller in a canadian forest and your a bears happy meal. Or amoose, it takes a lot to bring down a moose.
FreeChechnya
25th June 2005, 02:23
I do not hate the race, as I have said, I have many native friends. I hate lazyness and people who do not contribute and feed off the taxpayers, no matter the color.
I love native culture (true native culture), respect the environment, respect yourself and live with the bare neccesities, sadly it is not like that anymore. Callin me a capitalist or a bigot is ignorant. I respect native ways and rights but it is discouraging for me to have to work 16 hour days to survive than to watch money being handed to people who are capable of working. Your Communism = Freedom would not work if noone contributed.

I to also regret the rape of the Aborigionals by the European settelers. Can we change this? We have no control over what our ancestors did (or yours,I am of Ukrainian decent). So we must pay the rest of our working lives? and after we retire? I belive we have handed out enough. I am sorry about what the Europeans did, truly. I do not belive though, that the population of natives do not work because they see no chance to advance, or are pissed of with capitalism. My view is that they have been handed to their whole lives and simply expect, continuously wanting more. I have been on many reservations and have you realized what they do with the money? have you seen what this money goes towards?.. if you havn&#39;t i suggest you take a look. please.
Commie Girl
25th June 2005, 04:08
Originally posted by RABBIT &#045; THE &#045; CUBAN &#045; MILITANT+Jun 24 2005, 04:20 PM--> (RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT @ Jun 24 2005, 04:20 PM)
Commie [email protected] 24 2005, 08:01 PM
:( I clearly remember the Oka Crisis...gratefully it was covered quite well by the CBC and MacLeans. Expanding the Fu**ing Golf Course??? Those rich assholes already waste too much land chasing their balls :lol:

I too live near 4 reserves, although in Alberta these guys have oil money. We murdered the first nations, the treaties we forced them to sign need to be honoured&#33;

I have an adopted native child, and we do what is possible to teach him about his history and heritage. We went to his reserve for a land-claim signing ceremony in 2000, this was for treaty 8, and most of the provisions that were agreed to were NEVER delivered&#33; So in the end it has cost us so much more in terms of money and serious social problems that have become generational. we are now only beginning to realize our responsibilites for this attempted genocide.
North Americas quite cultural genocide …. But im glad there are comrades like u on the front lines :D ..how old is ur child?? [/b]
:) He is now 13, he is from the Tsek-anhe band from Northern British Columbia, they were nomadic and the only band left of their tribe.
RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT
25th June 2005, 04:47
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 01:23 AM
I do not hate the race, as I have said, I have many native friends. I hate lazyness and people who do not contribute and feed off the taxpayers, no matter the color.
I love native culture (true native culture), respect the environment, respect yourself and live with the bare neccesities, sadly it is not like that anymore. Callin me a capitalist or a bigot is ignorant. I respect native ways and rights but it is discouraging for me to have to work 16 hour days to survive than to watch money being handed to people who are capable of working. Your Communism = Freedom would not work if noone contributed.

I to also regret the rape of the Aborigionals by the European settelers. Can we change this? We have no control over what our ancestors did (or yours,I am of Ukrainian decent). So we must pay the rest of our working lives? and after we retire? I belive we have handed out enough. I am sorry about what the Europeans did, truly. I do not belive though, that the population of natives do not work because they see no chance to advance, or are pissed of with capitalism. My view is that they have been handed to their whole lives and simply expect, continuously wanting more. I have been on many reservations and have you realized what they do with the money? have you seen what this money goes towards?.. if you havn&#39;t i suggest you take a look. please.
now ur just assuming that all native reservations spend their money on frivolous things and that the majority of natives are more or less beggars... just because u have natives friends doesn’t stop u from being racist …and im not saying that you are.
FreeChechnya
25th June 2005, 05:36
Originally posted by RABBIT &#045; THE &#045; CUBAN &#045; [email protected] 25 2005, 03:47 AM

now ur just assuming that all native reservations spend their money on frivolous things and that the majority of natives are more or less beggars
I actully have seen some of the best reserves in Manitoba, there is not alot of comparison between them. I grew up pretty much on one. Like I said in my first post this topic might be a little to real for some of you. I am now done defending myself, I see the truth and i hope the rest of you may realize it.

This is Manitoba I am talking about and only Manitoba.

Back on topic, Fuck Mulroney
Martin Blank
25th June 2005, 05:57
Originally posted by RABBIT &#045; THE &#045; CUBAN &#045; [email protected] 23 2005, 01:43 AM
don’t know where to post this really but its a great piece of Canadian history and its good for every to see anyways

(The begining ) APRIL 1, 1989---&#62;http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-500
APRIL 27,1990---&#62;http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-512
JULY 11,1990 --&#62;http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-523
JULY 19, 1990--&#62;http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-525
SEPTEMBER 1 , 1990---&#62;http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-581 (BEST ONE)
(The end)SEPTEMBER 26,1990--&#62;http://archives.cbc.ca/400d.asp?id=1-71-99-582 (Sad and crazy)



Hope u found it interesting Comrades ,

RABBIT
One of our comrades is from the Oka and was living on the reserve during this crisis. She remembers very well the armed confrontations between Quebec authorities and her family/friends.

I am pretty proud to say that the League has a significant number of Native American/First Nation peoples as members and supporters. It has provided a great perspective on both the practical platform we fight for, as well as many of the larger political issues that are commonly discussed by the Left.

Miles
Commie Girl
25th June 2005, 06:49
CBC (http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/24/labrador-inuit-050624.html)

An Inuit land-claim bill that will create self-government in an area of northern Labrador has received royal assent and become law.
Gov. Gen. Adrienne Clarkson signed Bill C-56 into law Thursday evening in Ottawa, after the deal had passed through the Senate.

The bill – establishing An Act To Give Effect to the Labrador Inuit Land Claims Agreement and the Labrador Inuit Tax Treatment Agreement – received unanimous approval in the House of Commons last week.

The land-claim agreement creates an autonomous government in Nunatsiavut, the Inuit word for "our beautiful land."

The deal covers 72,520 square kilometres.

Labrador&#39;s Inuit will become the owners of 15,800 square kilometres of that land – representing about two per cent of Labrador&#39;s land mass.

The Inuit will co-manage the remaining area.

William Andersen, president of the Labrador Inuit Association, welcomed the bill&#39;s approval and predicted a busy summer as the association prepares the transition to self-government.

He said they hope to have an interim government in place by early fall.

"There is an expectation on the part of our membership – who are the beneficiaries – for us to move immediately, and we owe it to them to be ready as soon as possible," Andersen said.

The House of Assembly approved the claim last fall. Federal officials joined Inuit and provincial leaders in Nain in January to sign the deal.

As part of the agreement, the federal government will transfer &#036;140 million to the Labrador Inuit Association.

I consider this progress :)
JC1
25th June 2005, 21:45
the Cree & Mohawk Natinol Liberation Struggles are the most advanced struggles of any type in north america. It makes me proud to live in the midst of so many Cree and Objibwe Natinols .
Organic Revolution
25th June 2005, 22:19
very interesting,.
Eastside Revolt
28th June 2005, 22:18
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 04:36 AM
I am now done defending myself, I see the truth and i hope the rest of you may realize it.

This is Manitoba I am talking about and only Manitoba.
Nope, you&#39;re not gonna get off that easy&#33;

You never acknowledged my point about the destruction of their cultural background. And the fact that they only see themselves in their modern powerless situation. You don&#39;t think that maybe some of your "native freinds" have a little bit of self-hate? You don&#39;t think that maybe deep down they "wish they were white"?
JC1
28th June 2005, 22:45
FreeChechnya is a social-chuvinist. FC, the only First nations who say that the biggest problem is there own people is uncle toms like the fuck Chief Terri Nelson.

Aboriginals are the hardest workin&#39; people I know. I live in the north end, so I should now buddy.

And how are the people like the glue heads on Main and Higgins feedin&#39; off the " Taxpayer" ? They dont even have a permenant address, how can they be collectin&#39; welfare. Sides , welfare aint that much you get. Jus&#39; look at (Places ive lived in) like Stella Walk and Stradford hall and jig town. Were strugglin&#39; to live here buddy.

Ukrainians are an oppresor nation. You own most of the Buissnisses in the north End, and all the credit unions are slav owned aswell. My father couldnt even get a membnership at carpatia cuz&#39; hes a jew, even though his grandma is from oddesa ( But oh weait, you dont care abou Ghetto/Barrio/Schtetl folks ? ).
JC1
28th June 2005, 22:49
You don&#39;t think that maybe some of your "native freinds" have a little bit of self-hate? You don&#39;t think that maybe deep down they "wish they were white"?

This is widespread amongst native youths. My Buddy will always used to tell people, " i may be Biologicly Cree, but i am culturaly white. I was raised by whites( He was raised by the State)". Even the Natives who do display some pride also hate themselves.

Or look at that Red Lake Shootin&#39; Kid. He was alienated so much he became a white supremacist and killed 20 of his countrymen.
JC1
28th June 2005, 22:51
sorry for the spelling, i was righting under the influence of rage.
Patchy
29th June 2005, 10:10
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2005, 09:45 PM
Ukrainians are an oppresor nation.
Hey now, I&#39;m Ukrainian, and I don&#39;t support oppression. I don&#39;t own a business, I&#39;m not stopping anyone from taking out loans, I&#39;m working class and I want to see socialism. I want to help people. I want the USA to stop it&#39;s globalization bullshit. And I don&#39;t like seeing Bush getting all buddy-buddy with Ukraine, because he probably just wants it&#39;s resources, just like Russia.

Stereotypes can be slapped on any race in any situation, and if we keep doing this, this thread is just drifting further and further away from it&#39;s original point, which was a group of people who did not want people chasing balls around on their land. There were three other directions they could have built the course, but no, they had to use that side.

Natives don&#39;t work, Jews are moneymongers, Ukrainians are oppressors, Russians are cabbage growers, whatever. These are just stereotypes and define absolutely nothing, everyone is not defined by their nationality, it just doesn&#39;t happen. Slapping a personality on someone based on their ethnic background is just dumb. There will always be exceptions which in turn make any stereotypicical statement a lie and waste of air, and if you&#39;re having an actual intelligent conversation, the rest of your argument is pretty much fucked.

Social-Chauvinist? To put it short, he called the majority of natives lazy and then you went and said that Ukrainians are oppressors. I believe your statement should be edited to match the following.



FreeChechnya and I are social-chauvinists. FC, the only First nations who say that the biggest problem is there own people is uncle toms like the fuck Chief Terri Nelson.


Another thought on the Oka Crisis itself - golf is weird. I can&#39;t imagine any way to make batting balls around and then following them even remotely interesting. Monkeys could be running around and making little monkey pyramids, but it would still be golf.

Bottom line - stupid reason to have a situation escalate to this point, a silly golf course.
JC1
29th June 2005, 19:04
Hey now, I&#39;m Ukrainian, and I don&#39;t support oppression. I don&#39;t own a business, I&#39;m not stopping anyone from taking out loans, I&#39;m working class and I want to see socialism. I want to help people. I want the USA to stop it&#39;s globalization bullshit. And I don&#39;t like seeing Bush getting all buddy-buddy with Ukraine, because he probably just wants it&#39;s resources, just like Russia.



I Retract my statements. However, its irritating when a group has alotta the elected positions, alotta buissnis , and special perks like Ukrainian language schools bulit with taxpayer money ( WHERE THEY PRAY IN CLASS &#33;&#33;&#33; ) and then start complaining about another groups imagined paracitism.
FreeChechnya
30th June 2005, 03:00
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2005, 06:04 PM

Hey now, I&#39;m Ukrainian, and I don&#39;t support oppression. I don&#39;t own a business, I&#39;m not stopping anyone from taking out loans, I&#39;m working class and I want to see socialism. I want to help people. I want the USA to stop it&#39;s globalization bullshit. And I don&#39;t like seeing Bush getting all buddy-buddy with Ukraine, because he probably just wants it&#39;s resources, just like Russia.



I Retract my statements. However, its irritating when a group has alotta the elected positions, alotta buissnis , and special perks like Ukrainian language schools bulit with taxpayer money ( WHERE THEY PRAY IN CLASS &#33;&#33;&#33; ) and then start complaining about another groups imagined paracitism.
I never said Ukrianians were perfect, nor did I say all natives were lazy.
"oh i live in the north end" so what I grew up there, don&#39;t mean shit.
The truth is to much to handle for some of you and you have obviously not seen reality. It is useless to argue this point because you will always think it is "racist", its realness its the truth and it must hurt.


I was born in the North End then moved to Sandy bay.
JC1
30th June 2005, 03:44
What Truth ? People on welfare make up so little of public funding. And even people on welfare generate some value via under the table employment.
MoscowFarewell
24th July 2005, 08:00
Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 03:41 AM
Why do the Native Americans need it?

Racism? No I just hate lazyness and ignorance.
Then why point directly at the fact of Native Americans and not in general? That most people on welfare, actually don&#39;t need it. My great grand parents were pure native americans on my grandmothers side and I can honestly say the statement you made sounded, but probably wasn&#39;t meant to be, a rude generalization. They worked for their money and they died doing the honest thing. Anything less of the ideal laborer, not at all.
Anarchist Freedom
24th July 2005, 08:19
Wow very sad that it hand to end that way. The golf course did not go up though.
rebelworker
25th July 2005, 04:37
Ok im sitting in the west end right now, I grew up in BC on a town that is half reserve I live in Montreal and my family is Italian from St. vital, and irish from the North end.

I hate to keep going back to this but fuck, Native People have had their culture destroyed, Their land was taken, they were taken from their families and put in state run schools, alot of them were sexually abused by the preists who ran the schools, there families, communities and culture have been devistated. This is genocide, they face many of the problems of this ontop of the basic shit that comes along with poverty, alcohol and drug abuse, broken homes add to the cultural devistation.

Downtown is a fuckin ghetto man, just like any in the states. Black people arent lazy cause they are unemploied, its institutional racism and genocide. As working class people we should recognise the effects of the poverty and opression, we shouldnt fight amongst ourselves, this shit is part of our opression, you dont see this shit in gated communities cause they are rich and have power in society.

We have to put our petty bigotry and ruling class values aside and unite to fight our common enimy.
Part of that is healing the wounds in our often broken communities. Check out the work the Panthers or Aim did in the seventies to overcome these problems and build a revolutionary movment where dispair and breakdown had left their communities and reserves powerless and in complete disarray.

I will stop niow but this shit is important if we have any hope of understanding how this system works and keeps us beaten down and divided. Unite and fight&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

In Solidarity,
Rebelworker
RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT
25th July 2005, 07:34
yes .. i believe that that last post is a great way to end the thread



your comrade .

Rabbit