One sided News

[igotshotbyu]

:ph34r:

This morning I was perturbed while reading the news. I read these two headlines “Suicide Bomber Kills 15 at Iraq Police HQ, Saddam Friendly with U.S. Troops". So I decided to do a little reading. As you can see by the headlines they don't
make much sense. What I got out of it was that the media was trying to make us feel sorry for the poor American troops (who were stupid enough to sign up for the military anyways) and then to make Saddam look idiotic.
The headlines should have read that "Yes, Saddam is booking free interviews, to degrade himself in front of the American people". I believe the news as much as I believe that Star Wars is based on a real story. Now to get to my point I am an 18 year old high school drop out and I understand what’s going on in the world. If I can see how fucked up the government is then how comes the majority of the U.S. population can't.

I'll leave you with this part of the artical I read, see what you think.

NEW YORK - Thrust unexpectedly into the role of prison guards for
Saddam Hussein, a group of young American soldiers found the deposed Iraqi leader to be a friendly, talkative "clean freak" who loved Raisin Bran for breakfast, did his own laundry and insisted he was still president of Iraq, says a report published on Monday.

[MarxItUpSome]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2005, 06:30 PM
I believe the news as much as I believe that Star Wars is based on a real story.
Funny you should say that, I heard it actually was based on a merging of 20th century extreme political regimes (a bit of Nazi, a bit of USSR, etc).



If you're going to get your news from anywhere, I would recommend the BBC - closest thing to balanced news that's readily available in most countries. I'm not saying it's perfect, but its either that or have right-wing shit shoved in your ears.

You could of course read something like The Socialist Worker or The Morning Star. But that's not exactly neutral now is it?

[bolshevik butcher]

The british chanel 4's good if you can get it. The guardian and the independant are good newspapers as well.

[Camarada]

Yeah, the Guardian is good.

you might like "The Nation":

http://www.guardian.co.uk

http://thenation.com

[kurt]

Originally posted by MarxItUpSome+Jun 20 2005, 07:46 PM--> (MarxItUpSome @ Jun 20 2005, 07:46 PM)
[email protected] 20 2005, 06:30 PM
I believe the news as much as I believe that Star Wars is based on a real story.
Funny you should say that, I heard it actually was based on a merging of 20th century extreme political regimes (a bit of Nazi, a bit of USSR, etc).



If you're going to get your news from anywhere, I would recommend the BBC - closest thing to balanced news that's readily available in most countries. I'm not saying it's perfect, but its either that or have right-wing shit shoved in your ears.

You could of course read something like The Socialist Worker or The Morning Star. But that's not exactly neutral now is it? [/b]
Yea, star wars is very similar to Hitler's rise to power in Germany, with obvious differences of course, but the principles are the same.

With the BBC, I tend to fight it quite slanted. They seem to report opinions and only one sided issues.

Of course news coming from things like Socialist Worker, and Morning Star won't be neutral. They'll be very biased towards the left wing! However, I don't find that a bad thing, because I find leftist papers to be in sync with my views, so why wouldn't I take my news from them? :D

[danny android]

yeah news in general pretty much sucks at the moment. In my government class if someone wood make a reference to the local newspaper, would say "did you read that in the chronicle(the local paper)?" and if they ansewered yes he would just shrugg it off and say "that is not a reliable source of information". I always thought it was pretty funny.

[Camarada]

Originally posted by comradekurt+Jun 20 2005, 10:17 PM--> (comradekurt @ Jun 20 2005, 10:17 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2005, 07:46 PM

[email protected] 20 2005, 06:30 PM
I believe the news as much as I believe that Star Wars is based on a real story.
Funny you should say that, I heard it actually was based on a merging of 20th century extreme political regimes (a bit of Nazi, a bit of USSR, etc).



If you're going to get your news from anywhere, I would recommend the BBC - closest thing to balanced news that's readily available in most countries. I'm not saying it's perfect, but its either that or have right-wing shit shoved in your ears.

You could of course read something like The Socialist Worker or The Morning Star. But that's not exactly neutral now is it?
Yea, star wars is very similar to Hitler's rise to power in Germany, with obvious differences of course, but the principles are the same.

With the BBC, I tend to fight it quite slanted. They seem to report opinions and only one sided issues.

Of course news coming from things like Socialist Worker, and Morning Star won't be neutral. They'll be very biased towards the left wing! However, I don't find that a bad thing, because I find leftist papers to be in sync with my views, so why wouldn't I take my news from them? :D [/b]
I noticed that too. I thought it was very similar. Palpatine was made Chancellor of the Republic and later he tried to give himself absolute power, and he turned the Republic into "The Empire". At least that's how I remember it.

[rikaguilera]

As far as a news source goes, I try and read from many different sources. It does make the propaganda apparent, and the more "real" news comes through in bits and pieces from the rest. All reports are going to be written with a bias. That is the first thing to understand when reading ANY article. To have the open-mindedness to pull the facts is up to you. I will sometimes watch "FAUX" News just for laughs, and to see what they are brain washing the sheeple with. I know it sounds strange to read or watch the opposing propaganda, but you should always know what the other side is up to...

[Man of the Century]

igotshotbyu:

How does signing up for membership in the U.S. armed forces make one "stupid".

After 9-11, many joined to fight the Taliban, who have declared war against the United States. The armed forces have a history of professionalism and honor, along with many mistakes and wrongful acts.

But armed forces are the tools of policy. This does not mean that the members are stupid for their signing up.

No one should "sign up" for military service? Most/All revolutions only succeeded through such conduct. Isn't that the nature of what socialist revolution would eventually require.

Also remember, there are many military families in the U.S. Are these people stupid? How so?

How do you expect American citizens to act about this issue?

[bolshevik butcher]

A lot of people only join the army because they are forced into it. By recrutieers and their financial istuation.

[More Fire for the People]

I like IndyMedia and Wikinews because they're very decentralized, indymedia has a left bias and wikinews doesn't have much of a bias.

[Man of the Century]

I've read such, but can't fully agree. First, no recruiter "forces" anyone. They are reviewing some of the lies they tell, or exageration (sp?), but there is no force. Re: "the poor" having NO other ulternative, that's open to debate, but I understand both sides.

But my issue was this presumption that the U.S. should have NO army, which was the implication made by igotshotbyu.

I don't think the same way as he does.

[viva le revolution]

Well financial reasons aside, the U.S army is still an arm of U.S imperialism and should be opposed at all levels. What i can't stand is those people who send their kids in the army then cry when the kid gets shot up in Iraq or Afghanistan saying they were misled and complain. what did they expect, he's in the army for god's sake! instead of joining up in the army they should demonstrate and work to topple this corrupt Bush regime. That's how they will show their intelligence.

[igotshotbyu]

:P

What i was referring to were people from middle class families who think its a great idea to go to Iraq and die. Bush would never die for them.

Just to clear up a little misunderstanding I do not have any problems with the Armed forces what i do have a problem with is fighting for the united states army that is currently being used by the bush administration kill, torture, maim, slaughter, control the oil resources of sovereign nations or whatever other bush's recreational habits are.

Also i don't like the fact that people in poor areas from which of whom lost their jobs due to job exportation are being forced to get jobs in the armed forces or starve! I believe bribery is taking place in these poor areas to replace jobs that are leaving America with jobs in the armed forces. They want to turn America in to a giant army bunker!!!!!

Sure when you strive to make ends meet the money the armed forces offer sound just grand.

In schools they start brain washing the kids to join the army. When you turn 17 you start getting harassing phone calls and flyers in the mail. There desperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pingwin]

Forcing or 'press-ganging' people in joining the army isn't done in the US nowadays. You make it sound like the US army is like the British army under Wellington back in the Napoleontic Wars. :D

[igotshotbyu]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 07:44 AM
Forcing or 'press-ganging' people in joining the army isn't done in the US nowadays. You make it sound like the US army is like the British army under Wellington back in the Napoleontic Wars. :D
Thats exactly what I was saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!