What Che Guevara REALLY belived in

[bzerk]

WHAT HE DID and what HE WAS AGAINST.

[Organic Revolution]

WHAT?!?!? im really confused

[OleMarxco]

Ah, the obvious questions.
What he did; Revoluted against Capitalism, and the alienation it creates.
What he's against Obviously, the same that of which he fought to crush.
That('s) pre'simple, huh? ;)

[Anti-establishment]

is that a swastika in his avatar?

[Lef]

Not exactly, swastiga is the other way round but it seems that he doesnt even know what he represents.

[Idealist phreak]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

Seems to be some hindu symbol.

[symtoms_of_humanity]

the swastika is only considered it when that symbol is tipped to the side, when its striaght it means purity, it was and still is Hindu, but hitler used it, because it meant purity, but he felt the indians and hindu's were still inferior

[tondraal]

Guevara was a Communist, he had a dream of all South Ameica (later perhaps North too?) would live in one country under communism where all people woud be treatet equal. But things like that don´t work as long there is coruption which was essembled by the US.

There are some rumors, that Che wanted to do a threaty with Kennedy....what was that about?

[fernando]

I never heard of that :unsure:

[Mr Flibble]

hmmm...i reckon Che was more a Socalist but thought he could get more done by supporting the communist groups

[Vallegrande]

Quote:tondraal- There are some rumors, that Che wanted to do a threaty with Kennedy....what was that about?

I have read something hinting to that in "Che: A Revolutionary Life". Apparently Kennedy was making progress in making a treaty with Cuba, such as lifting the embargo. He was assassinated shortly after the negotiations were underway. I dont know if it was Che or Fidel that Kennedy was negotiating with.

[werewolf]

It was Fidel. There was a great documentary, I think either Time or BBC sponsored it, but it was about the secret negotiations between Fidel and Kennedy. According to the witnesses (Cubans and one lone American reporter) Fidel and Kennedy were becoming close. Fidel was very shaken up by his assassination.

Of course how much is true or not....we'll never know.

[Vallegrande]

It will be some time before the secret records are released. Isn't it about 100 years until the gov't can release their history? I heard about this somewhere.

[Mr Flibble]

you have diffrent time periods depneding on the documents importantance in the Uk its 25 years, 50 years, 100 years or never if its really classified also it can happen some things are lost by "accident"

[Vallegrande]

I wonder how the gov't would react to the people personally declassifying this info. There was one time when someone had the access and led a group of people to obtain classified docs. Something needs to be done before the gov't rids itself of any wrongdoing (like it already hasn't).

[pandora]

Che would have been with the Zapatista in fact the new annoncement refers to him and his vision for Latin America several times. Please read.

[Oldergod]

Che wasnt a communist he was a socialist


and Che's biggest enemy was american imperialism..he literally fought whereever there was american imperialism

[pandora]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 07:15 PM
Che wasnt a communist he was a socialist


and Che's biggest enemy was american imperialism..he literally fought whereever there was american imperialism
incredibly small minded, oh yes just america,that´s why he fought against the belgian renegades in the congo. get your head out of your ass. it´s g-8 or the companies there of that are the problem, and they do not belong to any nation, although more the global north and prefer those of light complexion.

regardless. i think the situation shows how just because someone lives in the north and has a light complexion does not make them an enemy. such thinking is exactly what we are rebelling against. it is racist and stupid.

che in his diplomacy particularly towards the end in his un address was far beyond such limited thinking. which is why he did meet with people from the kennedy adminstration saying we are young we can change the world. he offered kennedy his hand in peace. he did not trust he would take it, kennedy couldn´t he had the cia up his ass who assinated him for being new and different anyway, but at least he considered che as somewhat of an equal.

what we need in the world is more open minds, not more tight mights. a real revolutionary is a revolutionary of love not hate. who works for the poor of all countries north and south.

[Anarcho-Communist]

Originally posted by Idealist [email protected] 21 2005, 03:21 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

Seems to be some hindu symbol.
The Swastika originally was the Indian symbol for peace, then Hitler used it as the Nazi Parties symbol. :o

[Oldergod]

hey pandora..did you know the belgian renegades in the congo were funded by the states?


learn something...you fuckin idiot

[anomaly]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 03:45 PM
Che wasnt a communist he was a socialist


and Che's biggest enemy was american imperialism..he literally fought whereever there was american imperialism
Actually, some of Che's closest comrades remarked how he was 'adavanced' in the sense that he was alreadyy thinking of communism and how to build communism. This was remarked by a Soviet man in Cuba, I believe. Indeed, it's not that difficult to believe. Che was a huge fan of Mao, and he thought the Chinese showed a higher socialist morality than the Soviets. So, his 'advancing' to thinking a working to build communism isn't a big surprise.

What did Che do: That's an extremely vague question, but, as far as revolution goes, he engaged in one sufccessful revolution (Cuba) and two unsuccessful ones (Congo and Bolivia). He witnessed the rise and fall of the Guatemalan revolution as well, but wasn't really involved enough to say he was a part of it. Also, he managed a group of guerrillas in Argentine in 1963. This group also failed, but it was mainly due to the leader on the ground, a journalist and friend of Che's from the Cuban revolution named Massetti.

What was he against: US imperialism, obviously. He was against capitalism, wherever it was, as well.