Teachers strike.........

[bluerev002]

My teachers are planning to go on strike, they are in the negotiation stage. They have allied themselves with some parents and so they have told us NOT to attend school on monday (some teachers are agaisnt it). THE PARENTS TOLD THE STUDENTS NOT TO GO TO SCHOOL ON MONDAY!!! well of course all the ones who dont like school wont attend, withouth even given a notice about the strike.
see the problem is that the school district has changed them to a diffrent insurance company. for this to have happened the teachers got $100 deducted from their pay checks, and their checks werent raised to pay for this. the teachers are mad at this, cuz they dont want to pay 100 bucks!!
Theres a problem here that the teachers seem to be overlooking, if the students dont come the school district is gonna lose a ton of money, then the teachers will really have their pay checks deducted. Also the school wide directory is coming on monday to analize how teh school is going, if its good, they dont bother the school until their next appointment, which is in six years. if we dont pass the expectancies, then they shut down the school. well, they WILL shut down the school if no students or teachers are here.

what do you guys think? is this a good cause or a bad one to go on strike for, in my opinion its a stupid reason. because of this the seniors will graduate late, and they are just figthing for a privlege, not a right.

[vox]

If there's a news article about it, I'd like to read it. I have the feeling that the issue is more than simply a hundred dollars. I'm wondering if the administration (the bosses) broke the contract it has with the union.

I will always support the teacher's union. Always.

vox

(Edited by vox at 1:16 am on Oct. 11, 2002)

[bluerev002]

sorry i havent seen any articles on the news paper. ive been looking and looking, but no. in fact many of the teachers want to keep it under wraps, when i ask some dont want to talk about it while others deny that there is one. one teacher has been very open though, hes my english teacher and he says that he does not support the strike cuz he doesnt teach for the money.

all in all, i do agree with the strike, but also i am going to school on monday.

but it is a clever move that the teachers took, ill agree with taht. no teachers on monday then the school wont be approved adn it could be closed down, so the bosses have to agree with the teachers or else the board will lose a serious amount of money.

[MJM]

Quote: from vox on 6:14 pm on Oct. 11, 2002

I will always support the teacher's union. Always.
(Edited by vox at 1:16 am on Oct. 11, 2002)

Agree, don't go to school. Unite with your teachers union!

[IHP]

being that my mother, sister, two aunties and both grandmothers are teachers, i have always been for the teachers union. although my family tie with education might fog my opinion, i am still for the strike.

--IHP

[BOZG]

I'd take the day off but I wouldn't side with the teachers. They have no influence on my life so fuck them. Over here, the teachers went on strike quite a number of times, they're still on a work to rule basis at the moment. They were looking for a pay rise even though a lot of them were earning more than the majority of people in the country. They get 4 months paid holidays and a lot of them work for that aswell. They're just greedy. They've forgotten that schools are supposed to be a place of education and not somewhere just to employ them.

[Reuben]

BOZG your chatting shite. If you think that the 15 weeks a yaerr that the teachers are not in school is a 'paid holiday' your badly istaken. they work through alot of them.

Furthermore the idea that teachers are greedy is just laughable. I thiks its gone up a it but few years ago the starting rate for a teacher, someone who has to spend 4 years at university, was 17K, wile a police officer earned 18,500.

[bluerev002]

no one at the school gives a shit, i tried to get a few ppls opinions and they say their not going to school on monday just cuz they see it as an excuse not cuz of the teachers strike.

sorry to say it, but im going to school on monday. my ideas will be overshadowed by those ppl who just dont like school.

[Politrickian]

Hmm... If my teachers would strike on that day it wouldn't be very significant. Only 4 classes and we work very independatly here. Well, at least for most classes.

[ID2002]

It all depends on what they are striking for. 99% of the time they are striking because they want the best for their classroom so that it benifts the students.
Having a week or two off school isn't going to hurt.

[peaccenicked]

MJM.
Just read thishttp://www.worldsworstweb.com/0802/army.htm
And teachers in the UK tell me they have been proletarianised.

[Angie]

Teachers in the U.S are finding that their ability to teach their students properly is being taken away from them - it's no doubt they're wanting to protest over it. Bush has already demanded that the overall curriculum be "altered", so that it lives up to the present Administration's belief system.

Under that plan, all kids, regardless of their background, are doomed to grow up with Imperial, Republican viewpoints, and won't be encouraged to come to their own conclusions about history. The libraries won't be far off, I've no doubt - books will start "disappearing" from the shelves because they'll not be considering Right Wing enough.

[MJM]

Nice one peace. I've added that site to my favs :)

I also liked the sports news http://www.worldsworstweb.com/0802/quinella.htm
LOL

(Edited by MJM at 10:25 am on Oct. 14, 2002)

[sypher]

In my humble opinion teachers should be placed on an alter and worshiped. Although I believe in equality for all (and will die for the cause without question) I believe if any job gets paid more than everyother. That one job should be teaching. It is the keystone for everyother occupation. So I'll always stand beside the teachers union (unless they want to lower education in some way)

[bluerev002]

monday: hardly any students went to school, even though all the teachers where there.

tuesday: (today) all the teachers wore a red shirt.

all in all, their taking it easy with the accretators visiting.

i was one of those randomly chosen last year to be part of the "focus on learning group." as part of it, i attended the meeting with all the teachers, not one word was spoken about the strike. im wondering what these teachers are wating for?

[Jaha]

i know what i know, i will learn what i will learn, and i dont like being taught.

education is not necessarily a classroom thing and until people realize that, i say, screw school.

make school a right, not a requirement, then i will support it.

[PunkRawker677]

I don't agree that school shouldn't be a requirment. A certain level of schooling should be necessary, especially in a democratic system where the masses are assumed to understand the system and the candidates. Education is necessary to a certain point. Higher education should be a right, but a large portion of education is not only necessary but should be required.

[Jaha]

"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them."
--Anatole France

i hope that this is self-explanitory

[bluerev002]

what about little children? i know i did not want to go to school when i was a wee lad. 8th grade i hated school and thought most of freshman year i did also, but now, hey i do like it. and imagine that, go to school if you want to, no one would go. the economy wont rise and most ppl would be working in agriculture or sumffin, it would be easire for the ppl who DID go to school to expliot the ones who didnt. so everyone should get equal schooling weather they want to or not, well, for high school anyways, after the yoiur on your own

[BOZG]

I never let school interfere with my education -- Mark Twain

Schools do not educate, they brainwash.

[Jaha]

"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them."
--Anatole France

i thought that people would get it. basically, if schools are to help society, they are to provide knowledge and more importantly, convince students that ignorance isn't bliss.

read the quote a few more times and really think about it.

[IHP]

we understood it, jaha, get of your high horse. i believe that early education is definitely necessary. literacy skills and such is not brainwashing, it is teaching you what you need to know. later education, such as university, is there to open minds up.

i live in a democracy, with teachers who agree with that system. they dont agree with some of the things that i say or submit, but not once have i been discriminated against or marked down or anything like that. how have i been influenced by them? i havent. is it a necessary requirement? no. but i go and learn because i want to.

--IHP

[Jaha]

just making sure.

i dont mean to sound paranoid, but does a student know when he is getting brainwashed?

[abstractmentality]

some of the lecturers and all of the clerical staff were/are on strike at my school. from what my intro to english lit GSI told us, the lecturers are on strike because of the attempt to turn the humanities department into more of a research department and gear away from the actual teaching aspect of it. when doing this, more professors were hired at the expense of a few lecturers that had been here for 6 years, and prior to their firing, it was pretty much understood that they would be here for a much longer time.

the clerical staff is striking for another reason that im not sure about.

[bluerev002]

Quote: from Jaha on 1:09 am on Oct. 17, 2002
"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them."
--Anatole France



i thought that people would get it. basically, if schools are to help society, they are to provide knowledge and more importantly, convince students that ignorance isn't bliss.

read the quote a few more times and really think about it.


i thought that that meant, dont try to force me to go to school, open my curiosity and ill go by my self. i guess i didnt get it. :(