Great Cartoon...

[UrsaMajor]

...from some weird parallel Earth where they're more obvious.

[RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT]

kind of funny,,, not realy? i dunno mixed fealings ;)

[UrsaMajor]

Yeah, I kind of see it now. It was just so ironic to see Bush propaganda put that way, but it would have been better suited to a Nazi-esque portrayal. It kind of makes a sick mockery of our proud forebears. :unsure:

[Enragé]

well, those responsible for, say, the great leap forwards...are not my proud forebears..

[Clarksist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 11:47 AM
Yeah, I kind of see it now. It was just so ironic to see Bush propaganda put that way, but it would have been better suited to a Nazi-esque portrayal. It kind of makes a sick mockery of our proud forebears. :unsure:
Bolsheviks are not proud forebears.

As for the posters, those are hilarious. And I actually saw a poster similar to the "Rugged Individualism" one. In my school there is a poster that says, "You are all individuals" and it had a picture of some students smiling while working at their desks and then it said, "follow all the rules!".

[Red Heretic]

Originally posted by Clarksist+Jun 18 2005, 07:54 PM--> (Clarksist @ Jun 18 2005, 07:54 PM)
[email protected] 18 2005, 11:47 AM
Yeah, I kind of see it now. It was just so ironic to see Bush propaganda put that way, but it would have been better suited to a Nazi-esque portrayal. It kind of makes a sick mockery of our proud forebears. :unsure:
Bolsheviks are not proud forebears.

As for the posters, those are hilarious. And I actually saw a poster similar to the "Rugged Individualism" one. In my school there is a poster that says, "You are all individuals" and it had a picture of some students smiling while working at their desks and then it said, "follow all the rules!". [/b]
So you hate the bolsheviks and think that reactionary posters are cool? Why aren't you posting over at "conservative boards?"

[Clarksist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 10:05 PM
So you hate the bolsheviks and think that reactionary posters are cool? Why aren't you posting over at "conservative boards?"
Man, I never said I hated Bolsheviks. Although, well I do.

I am most like a council communist (although not completely). So how am I conservative at all?

Let's be a lot less hostile on these boards.

BTW, how are those posters reactionary?

[Organic Revolution]

idunno about those

[kurt]

Originally posted by Clarksist+Jun 21 2005, 04:53 AM--> (Clarksist @ Jun 21 2005, 04:53 AM)
[email protected] 18 2005, 10:05 PM
So you hate the bolsheviks and think that reactionary posters are cool? Why aren't you posting over at "conservative boards?"
Man, I never said I hated Bolsheviks. Although, well I do.

I am most like a council communist (although not completely). So how am I conservative at all?

Let's be a lot less hostile on these boards.

BTW, how are those posters reactionary? [/b]
Aren't you a pacifist? Council Communism is definately not for pacifists :P.

While the Bolsheviks didn't exactly suceed in creating socialism, I think they made a great contribution to world-wide communism.

[bolshevik butcher]

I think these are really funny! Im no fan of mao though, and i think we shoudl have a snese of humour about ourselves.

[Clarksist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2005, 09:18 AM
Aren't you a pacifist? Council Communism is definately not for pacifists :P.

While the Bolsheviks didn't exactly suceed in creating socialism, I think they made a great contribution to world-wide communism.
I'm quite a pacifist. I just don't believe military action is the first step in revolution. That doesn't seem like pacifism to me. As for being a Council Communist, that is what I'm most similar too. I am not 100% Council Commie.

How did the Bolsheviks make a contribution to world-wide communism? They set up a despotism which pushed back communist uprisings for perhaps a century! Because of the USSR, many people who call themselves communist, and would fight for communism don't because they don't really know what communism is... due to the USSR.

[FriedFrog]

I love the middle left one. I think these are pretty funny. And they're obviously ironic with the American message with Soviet slant. Very clever, I thought.

[OleMarxco]

I'm basically downloadin' this right now! It's havin' made it's fuckin' way to my wallpaper :D

[Faceless]

How did the Bolsheviks make a contribution to world-wide communism?

Whilst I have my gripe with Bolshevism on a number of issues, the Boleshevism of Lenin and Trotsky was not comparable with the Stalin era tyranny. At this stage in the revolution there was no "holding back" at any instance of revolution elsewhere. Let us not forget that had it not been for Lenin and Trotsky taking their opportunity to empower the proletariat, we would have seen further rule by the bourgeoisie who would have been forced to reduce themselves to Fascism sooner than either Germany or Italy. Consider then the capacity for mass murder in fascist russia or stalinist russia and you will understand that there may have been no way out of that unfortunate situation. Lenin was certainly not to know that beaurocratic degeneration would step in the place of fascism to massacre the people of Russia. The Russia of Lenin had a much freer press than it has ever had, the arts flourished and the planned economy played a supremely progressive role. Mass murder did not go hand in glove with the bolshevik revolution and it is beyond grotesque to assume Lenin or Trotsky to be responsible.