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resisting arrest with violence
14th June 2005, 20:11
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Excerpt from the book Growing Up at Thirty-Seven by Jerry Rubin, pages 74-75

"I heard that a radical organizer was in town looking for eighty volunteers to go on an illegal, free trip to Cuba. That struck my fancy. If the government didn't want us to go, there must be something to see. Since travel to the island was outlawed, we had to go the ninety mile trip from Florida to Cuba via a most circuitous route. We flew to Paris, where we got a plane to Czechoslovakia, where we boarded Cubana Airlines to fly back across the Atlantic to Havana----thirteen thousand miles to go ninety miles! When the plane landed in Cuba, all eighty of us cheered"
'We've arrived in the Free World!' We had outsmarted the CIA and made it to Cuba.
Cuba transformed my consciousness. I saw with my own eyes how the victims of American imperialism had translated abstract dreams into reality. The fancy hotels in Havana, once gambling casinos and prostitution havens for American businessmen, had been turned into schools and homes for the poor. Students graduating from medical school went to the hinterlands to serve the peasants. The entire society was putting into practice the Christian ideal of fellowship. Why then was America determined to destroy the Cuban revolution? Cuba had set a 'bad boy' example for the rest of South America. Washington resented Cuba's break away from being a plantation economy serving American corporate interests. Cuba had to be smashed.
We listened to Fidel Castro speak for seven hours to 200,000 people. Then, a few weeks later, he and the Cuban cabinet played a ten-inning baseball game with American newspapermen who were visiting Cuba for the first time in years. Fidel pitched Cuba to a 26-2 victory, giving America a message in terms it could understand. What a yippie Fidel was!
I looked at the Cuban people and envied their revolutionary spirit, their enthusiasm and aliveness. I wanted to stay and live there. The Cubans said, 'No, your struggle is in America.' We interviewed Che Guevara, the Minister of Labor, who was already secretly planning to leave Cuba to spread the revolution elsewhere. He blew my mind when he told us that if he had a choice, he would return to North America with us. 'The most exciting struggle in the world is going on in North America. You live,' Che said, 'in the belly of the beast.' Inspired by Che, I returned to the United States. At the border the U.S. government revoked my passport."

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The Z-Man
19th June 2005, 17:49
So basically you are saying that Che wanted Fidel to help him spread the revolution about the americas but he sold out to power and greed? I'm confused.

violencia.Proletariat
19th June 2005, 19:09
i think its more to help people in america become more inspired to not give up and keep fighting

bolshevik butcher
19th June 2005, 20:33
Yeh, that's what it seemed to imply to me. It's an inspiring story.

The Z-Man
21st June 2005, 20:31
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 06:09 PM
i think its more to help people in america become more inspired to not give up and keep fighting
I see.

redstar2000
22nd June 2005, 17:25
I was not a Jerry Rubin "fan" in the 60s; I thought he was one of those "leaders" that the capitalist media created for us to follow -- a "colorful character" always good for a "quote" (or "sound-bite" as it would be called today).


Originally posted by Jerry Rubin
The fancy hotels in Havana, once gambling casinos and prostitution havens for American businessmen, had been turned into schools and homes for the poor.

The casinos were gone and so were the American businessmen. But the "fancy hotels" were still hotels...though not quite so fancy any more.


The entire society was putting into practice the Christian ideal of fellowship.

Where'd he get a dumb idea like that? (I know, out of his ass where most of his ideas came from.)


We listened to Fidel Castro speak for seven hours to 200,000 people.

Bad luck. I escaped with a speech lasting just under four hours.


Then, a few weeks later, he and the Cuban cabinet played a ten-inning baseball game with American newspapermen who were visiting Cuba for the first time in years. Fidel pitched Cuba to a 26-2 victory...

It was 2-2 after nine innings and Cuba scored 24 runs in the top of the 10th???


I wanted to stay and live there. The Cubans said, 'No, your struggle is in America.'

The Cubans knew a loser when they met one.

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resisting arrest with violence
23rd June 2005, 16:00
In this same book Rubin says something that left me laughing for a long while. Best laugh I had all year. It was in the chapter entitled "Sex." In that chapter Rubin bemoans the small size of his cock and goes on to talk about his sex life at length. Then he sums it all up with this statement, "The government may think I'm a dangerous radical but they don't know the true size of my cock."

I don't agree that the capitalist put Jerry Rubin out there as a distraction because COINTELPRO was monitoring Jerry Rubin as well as the other YIPPIES and the Black Panthers and The Weather Underground.

fernando
23rd June 2005, 16:24
Strange because I heard another interview with Che and there he said that the revolution should not yet be taken to the US, and not out of favor for the US government, but simply because there would hardly be support and it is doomed to fail.

redstar2000
24th June 2005, 04:53
Originally posted by resisting arrest with violence
I don't agree that the capitalist put Jerry Rubin out there as a distraction...

No, not the capitalists "in general", the capitalist media.

In the "media world", there are no such things as ordinary people organized to resist the capitalist system. There are "leaders" and "followers".

If a movement does not have "leaders", the media "creates them" -- or perhaps "designates them" would be a better way to put it.

The way that they construct the "news" requires that some individual be in front of the camera saying "what all these people want".

Accuracy, however, is not required. Rubin's "claim to fame" is that he led an anti-war protest in northern California in the course of which a bunch of people laid themselves down on a railroad track in front of a train full of troops bound for Vietnam.

After that, he never really "led" beans...though he was involved in the demonstrations during the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

But the media liked him as a "spokesman" for "today's rebellious youth". They liked Abbe Hoffman even more in that role.

But do you imagine that kids back then sat around and discussed what Rubin, Hoffman, or some other media-designated "leader" thought about anything?

No way.

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resisting arrest with violence
24th June 2005, 14:29
What highfalutin' nonsense! If you read what the media was sayin' about them you'd think twice. The media was saying they were millionaires playing tennis with celebrities and other bullshit. Didn't Abbie Hoffman get beaten up by the cops many times? Rubin too. They spent a lot of time in and out of jail. Wasn't Rubin locked up with Bobby Seale? Read Bobby Seale's book Seize the Time . Read what Bobby Seale wrote. The media focused on them because they were among the most articulate, vociferous, rebellious and creative of their generation.

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redstar2000
25th June 2005, 03:05
Originally posted by resisting arrest with violence
The media focused on them because they were among the most articulate, vociferous, rebellious and creative of their generation.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Vociferous I will grant...they had very large mouths.

Your other three attributes are ludicrous.

And have ominous political implications as well. Do you think it's "a good idea" to let the class enemy's media "select your leaders"?

We knew better than that back in the 60s; would you have us do something like that now?

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