The Zapruder Film...

[YKTMX]

Interesting analysis of the famous Zapruder film for anyone (like me) interested in the assassination of JFK. Alleges that it is a fake or, more accurately, that it was docotored before its release and that there exists a "real" version which proves the conspiracy theories.

click (http://www.assassinationscience.com/johncostella/jfk/intro/)

[Clarksist]

Yeah, and we never went to the moon...

Really that is pretty interesting with the head movement and all. It makes one think. But the source which says the people move faster than "humanly possible" should be posted.

What would be so different on the "real" version?

[lennonist-leninist]

Well i would have never thought of the goverment making the film that was suppose to solve the assination to be part of the cover up. This is very intresting and really surpriseing to me. I mean i know the goverment has done so many things to stop the truth from getting out but this is well just wrong.

[Andy Bowden]

Why would the Zapruder film be faked? The footage of JFK's head going back and to the left is one of the arguments used by conspiracy theorists for a sniper from the grassy knoll.

[YKTMX]

Read the thing Andy, I'm sure it says.

Their argument is not that it's faked i.e that it isn't Kennedy being murdered, they're saying it's been doctored so that clips and frames which would prove the conpsiracy have been removed or altered.

For the record, I'm not certain about either the "lone nut" theories or the "high level" conspiracy theories. I think there was probably two shooters but I really doubt that high level CIA had prior knowledge or were involved. I presume it was either low level CIA with links to political extremists (I think Garrison's narrative about anti-Castro extremists is plausible) or just Oswald with some help from low level Government types.

I thik Clay Shaw was definetly involved. It's been shown that Garrison was right about him, he was a CIA agent and his businiess links point to him being a middle ranking agent with links to black ops.

Anyway, I'm away to fix my tinfoil hat.

[Andy Bowden]

Watching the Zapruder film it does seem amazing that a bullet from high on the right could cause Kennedy's head to go back and to the left :blink: .

I never did physics, but that just seems a bit weird to me :lol:

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[YKTMX]

Well, the common explanation from that is the sudden "spray" of matter out of the front of the head propelled the head back and to the left.

Seems plausible. In fact, what the Zapruder film might show is two shots hitting JFK at almost the exact same time. If you look at the site, it shows how, seconds before the fatal headshot, JFK seems to be hit "forward" into the bullet by something, which might be a bullet from behind.

[Urban Rubble]

You know, normally I'm a big sucker for conspiracy theories, but this website is just ridiculous.

They're claiming that they made an entirely fake film out of 500 still images. Then, to explain how the people who watched the film the next day have never mentioned anything suspicious, it claims that they altered it using "machines that could create Hollywood style special effects". If they could alter it that easily, why would they then spend a year pasting together still images to make another movie?

What a load of shit.

[Organic Revolution]

i agree with UR it all seems a bit ridiculus, well written but shit none the less

[cubalibra]

2 things on the Zapruder film. Time Life purchased the film right after the assassination and they doctored some stills by the street signs. The frames that were doctored showed JFK turning his head to the grassy knoll right before he was shot in the neck.

Also, if you look at the film closely Jackie O leaves the limo to retrieve a piece of JFK's skull that landed on the trunk after the fatal headshot. They could never say this because this proves that the kill shot came from the knoll. She is already climbing back into the limo with his skull fragment when the Secret Service Agent climbs on the limo.

This was no low level assassins. This came from the top. LBJ signed the declaration for war with Vietnam on the day of JFK's funeral.

5 days before his death, JFK told a french journalist who was going to Cuba to tell Castro that he would work with him to lift the embargo. The journalist was speaking with Castro in his office when they found out JFK was killed.

[YKTMX]

Well, I've never heard that stuff about Castro before. I have to say, if it's true it would go against everything JFK previously said about "communism".


it claims that they altered it using "machines that could create Hollywood style special effects". If they could alter it that easily, why would they then spend a year pasting together still images to make another movie?


You have to remember that this was the 60's, special effects were poor and there was no possibility of digital changes, so any changes would have been painstaking and of course they would have taken the care to make it look plausible.

To me, looking this stuff, there's no doubt it's been doctored to some degree, the "impossible head turns" for instance. Whether it's been doctored to add or remove something incongruant with the official story in another matter.

[bolshevik butcher]

My perosnal theory is that it was the cia or the anti-castro cuabns, both ahd god motives. Although it could just have been osawlled.

[novemba]

Be as skeptic as you want, but you can't deny that there is something fishy about the essence of this film.

To be honest I don't really care where he got shot, he died.

A better question to be wasting your time with is, "who killed him"?

[Vallegrande]

I'd have to say it was part MKULTRA and part mafia. There was hypnosis and organized crime involved. These have been used since the 50's, in which now people are asking for the gov't's defense budget from the 50's to 60's, something that remains classified. That's why I think the MKULTRA operations succeeded in extremely heinous crimes, with the mafia and FBI working in cahoots.