Che and PFLP Buttons!

[Weidt]

I just got buttons of Che Guevara and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine today, 50 of each.

$1.00 a piece, plus $0.50 shipping. Free shipping if you order more than five.

Payment can be made with PayPal, money order, or well-concealed cash.

Private message me if interested.

http://www.michigansocialist.net/images/buttons1.jpg


(Edited by Weidt at 5:17 pm on Oct. 6, 2002)

[new democracy]

this is making me mad. the che button is fine, but do you know that the pflp have killed many innocent civilians?

[KomAk]

Not the PFLP killed civilian's but the Hamas and IDF killed civilist's.

[PunkRawker677]

Hold on to 10 of each for me! I'll send you the money next week.

[Weidt]

Quote: from new democracy on 5:01 pm on Oct. 5, 2002
this is making me mad. the che button is fine, but do you know that the pflp have killed many innocent civilians?

Hmm... didn't Che kill civilians too? As for innocence, that is questionable. The PFLP primarily sticks to fighting the IDF in the Occupied Territories, or armed settlers, and most thrilling attack was assassinating the Israeli Tourist Minister, who was a right-winger. Yes, PFLP has claimed responsibility for some terrorist (suicide-bomber) attacks, but those are rare. Hamas and Islamic Jihad have the monopoly on terrorism.

[new democracy]

what are you talking about!? they were responsible for many deaths, not only in this intifada, but from the day they were formed!!! and when arafat has stopped using terrorism in oslo agreements, they did not stop!!!! PunkRawker677, you just showed your respect for human life. and che killed civilians?

[Weidt]

I also have the following buttons, in the quantity shown:

http://www.michigansocialist.net/images/buttons2.jpg

By the way, I will only ship within the U.S.A.

[PunkRawker677]

ND. Fuck you. The PFLP has killed far less civilians then the Israeli goverment has. I don't agree with some of the methods they have rarely used, but i agree with what they stand for and the freedom they are fighting for. I see you have no respect for Palestinian freedom. So, fuck you.

[Reuben]

I am unsure what side im on in this buut PUNK, where has ND shown a lack of respect for palestinian freedom? Nowhere


Perssonally i think that the methods of the PFLP are possibly understandable given that palestinians are disenfranchised do challenge poliotically the Israeli occuppation., yet I also understand the opposition to them from somebody such as ND who with good reason feels that he is on th recieving end of terrorism.

ONE MORE THING, your talking as if ND is a proponent of the Israeli govenrnment, saying stuff like 'theyve killed less civilians that the Israeli government'. ND has, on numerous occassions made clear his opposition to th Government s why are you using this ridiculous criteria?

[new democracy]

Quote: from PunkRawker677 on 3:55 am on Oct. 7, 2002
The PFLP has killed far less civilians then the Israeli goverment has.
maybe so, byt the fact that they killed many innocent civilians make them illegitimate. and they have killed innocent civilians from many parts of the world(when they started to hijack airplanes in the 70's), not only israel. when it comes to the israeli-palestinian conflict, many people here show extremely biased views.

I don't agree with some of the methods they have rarely used
like the many hijacking they did in the 70's(which made hijacking their trade mark)? from 1,967(the day when the pflp was found)they have used terror against innocent civilians, from all over the world(it is kind of sad you can't read hebrew, if you could you should try to read plo lexicon, then you will learn about the pflp campaign to "punish imperialist countries" ). i support palestinian people and their freedom, but i do not support terror against innocent civilians(from both sides).

[PunkRawker677]

ND.
I was trying to say that i agree with what they stand for. Palestinian freedom. I don't agree with their use of terrorism against innocent Israelis. I guess i didn't make that clear enough.

And Reuben. You are saying that I shouldn't have talked to him as if he had no respect for palestinian freedom, well, who is he to say i have no respect for innocent lives? All i said was i wanted a fucking button. I didn't say "God Bless the PFLP for killing the israeli people". He didn't even ask me what me views on them were before he made that comment. so why can't i?

[new democracy]

sorry, but if you say you want buttons of the plfp, i will not see it so positive(i come from israel).

[new democracy]

and i don't see them as so pro working class as they claim to be. if you kill workers, how can you bee pro working class?

[PunkRawker677]

I don't believe i said they were pro-working class.

[antieverything]

just fucking appologize and admit that the PFLP are bad people.

[new democracy]

Quote: from PunkRawker677 on 9:57 pm on Oct. 7, 2002
I don't believe i said they were pro-working class.

i said that they say it.

[Conghaileach]

from Weidt:
The PFLP primarily sticks to fighting the IDF in the Occupied Territories, or armed settlers, and most thrilling attack was assassinating the Israeli Tourist Minister, who was a right-winger.

Not only was he a right-winger, but he quit from Sharon's cabinet because he said Sharon was too soft on Palestinians!

And you are correct about PFLP suicide bombings being very rare. Those operations are usually the work of Hamas.

[Conghaileach]

from new democracy:
if you kill workers, how can you bee pro working class?

Soldiers are working class too, mostly.

[Conghaileach]

Weidt, I take that there's no way I can pay for those badges in Euros or Pounds sterling?

[new democracy]

Quote: from CiaranB on 4:32 pm on Oct. 8, 2002
from new democracy:
if you kill workers, how can you bee pro working class?

Soldiers are working class too, mostly.

i am not referring to soldiers, i am referring to the many innocent civilians that died from 1,967.

[PunkRawker677]

"just fucking appologize and admit that the PFLP are bad people. "

no.

[Rob]

is the diameter of the buttons as shown?

[new democracy]

they are bad people PunkRawker677!!!!!

[PunkRawker677]

Okay. I don't care what you think they are. As i originally said, i agree with their belief that Palestinians should be free. I never said i agree with any 'bad' stuff that they have ever done. Do you disagree with democracy? Alot of times its done bad shit, but should we disagree with it?

[RedCeltic]

My only question is, since when did the politics
forum become a marketplace?

[PunkRawker677]

Well the buttons correlate with the political norm on this board. (obviously not the case with ND). So, uhh.. i guess thats.. uh.. okay? lol.. i really don't know. where should he have posted that?

[Weidt]

Quote: from Rob on 5:43 pm on Oct. 8, 2002
is the diameter of the buttons as shown?

The buttons are 1" diameter.

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from PunkRawker677 on 9:10 pm on Oct. 8, 2002
Well the buttons correlate with the political norm on this board. (obviously not the case with ND). So, uhh.. i guess thats.. uh.. okay? lol.. i really don't know. where should he have posted that?


Chit chat maybe? Bahh, don't mind me I was just being a dick
yesterday.. :P cool buttons anyway. :)

(Edited by RedCeltic at 10:41 am on Oct. 9, 2002)