Australia & New Zealand

[apathy maybe]

Hi people. This is a thread for Australian's, New Zealander's and other people from the Pacific region (if there are any around here). For any new people, rather then reading all the thread, you might want to skip to the end and just read the last couple of pages.

But before you do that, I am going to post links to various groups around Aus/NZ if you have links, either post or PM me them and I'll put 'em here if I like them. I don't know any NZ orgs except Fight dem Back.

I decided to add a bunch of links for new people looking for stuff in Australia. Apologies if I leave some important organisation out. They are not organised in any real fashion. Also see http://anarchy.org.au/?page_id=4

The obvious groups in Australia on the 'left' are the Greens, you can look 'em up your self. Socialist Alliance (http://www.socialist-alliance.org/) and the youth group Resistance are mainly "Marxist" but apparently have some anarchists and other socialists (particularly independent often statist socialists) in their ranks.

Socialist Alternative exists in Melbourne and Sydney and I think Adelaide? Again a Marxist group, but most people around here will tell you to steer clear of them. (Directing you to either Socialist Alliance or one of the anarchist groups depending on what they feel like.)

Barricade Books (http://barricade.org.au/) is an anarchist group in Melbourne.
Jura Books (http://www.jura.org.au/) is in Sydney, another anarchist book shop.

There is a new group in Brisbane of anarchists etc. that do stuff. Direct Action Collective. There is a thread about them http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php...=ST&f=7&t=57521 (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=57521)

I don't know of any anarchist groups in Tasmania or WA, but check out the local environment groups, often there are anarchists (sometimes not self identifying as though) hanging around.

Universities are often a good place to find leftists. Food not Bombs is good as well (they exist in Sydney and Melbourne at least, I don't know about other cities), as well as environment centres and food co-ops. However, sometimes you only find the Green sort rather then the radical or deep green sort. Unfortunate that.

Indymedia exists in a variety of places, I'll leave it to you to find out.

There is a group in Canberra called Treason (http://treason.metadns.cx/).

The Australian Student Environment Network (http://www.asen.org) has a lot of anarchists in it. They also have lots of news around protests and stuff.

Fight dem Back (http://www.fightdemback.org/) is a good anti-racist organisation, they exist on both sides of the Tasman.

This thread http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php...=ST&f=7&t=57501 (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=57501) has some more information that might be useful, particularly for Melbourne.
This thread http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=31615 has lots of different political organisations from around the world, including Australia and New Zealand.
This thread http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=49390 has stuff happening in Sydney (when it is updated anyway).

[Palmares]

Yo.

Read the other thread. :lol:

[Monty Cantsin]

shut up Apathy Maybe you goddamm thread revisionists.

oh the glory of the old thread.

[RevolucioN NoW]

The other thread was cooler than this one.

But anyway, names Jon from Brisbane, after a lot of floating around politically ive thrown my lot in with Resistance/DSP, dont regret it.

By the way, if anyone offers you a free trip to Brisbane, kill them, its a hole.

[apathy maybe]

Didn't you all read the post?

Originally posted by apathy maybe+--> (apathy maybe)If you don't like it you don't have to participate.[/b]
and from the other thread

apathy maybe
If you don't like it, don't post in it.


I am black, red, green and a tinge yellow. I also like the colour blue.

[Palmares]

I have a black flag now. :)

And my Soviet one has strangely disappeared... ;)

[apathy maybe]

I didn't take it.

I also as yet don't have a black flag. It requires me finding a stick to attach the flag to. (So I have a flag (piece of cloth), just no stickthing.)

[Anarcho-Communist]

Represent New Zealand!

[apathy maybe]

Greetings folks.
I is currently editing old posts. What are you doing?

[Hiero]

I will not post in a forum with filthy New Zeland animal beasitality scum.


Oh by the way out of respect you should of had in brackets Aotearoa.

Peace, Love and Apthay.

[apathy maybe]

Only trouble is that I don't think of the place as that. However, I will welcome any admins changes to the title (or can mods do it as well?) so that, that is the case.
And New Holland after Australia.

[Hiero]

I dont really care, i was just bored.

[burn_ladiesagainstfeminism]

I hail from Dunedin Aotearoa (New Zealand)

[Anarcho-Communist]

Hiero, please to be getting along with your fellow comrades nationalities.

[Hiero]

I was joking.

[Anarcho-Communist]

I figured, but I do not accept people who cannot accept ones nationality.

[Ian]

it's funny because kiwis really do fuck sheep and every australian knows its true so shut up dick

[Anarcho-Communist]

cause you have been here and seen it?

[Palmares]

How did you know?

[Hiero]

Originally posted by Anarcho-[email protected] 24 2005, 04:02 PM
cause you have been here and seen it?
Ian films the shit.

[apathy maybe]

Damn. I make a thread to be more inclusive of those New Zealanders, and I get a mini flame war.

New Zealand is a lot better then Australia in a lot of ways, even if some of them do take liberties with live stock. I am sure that some Australians also take liberties with their live stock.

[apathy maybe]

Edit.

[burn_ladiesagainstfeminism]

Haha, The dammed Aussies tsake more liberty with there livestock I am most definatley sure.

[4514]

aussies have glass jaws.
4514
rank and file

[pedro san pedro]

I hail from Dunedin Aotearoa (New Zealand)

now thats a surprise! another dunedinite on the board! i grew up in sunny (?) warrington, and floated around the town centre for a whiles. are you from dunners orginally?

i then moved to oz - newcastle, sydney and tassie - and met more sheep fuckers than i thought was humanly possible. gotta give it to you ozzies - when you want to be number one at something, you sure give it your all.

i've just left rural china for da nang, in vietnam to soak up some sun on china beach and try to stay sane while working here. seriously - these people are so disorganised when it comes to an offic eenvironment.

have fun at sos all those going. i just found out that theres a chapter here, so my girly and i are off to see if the speak english ok good. looking forward to it - it's kinda hard to be active here!! being such a passive observor in the societies i've been living in recently has been the hardest part of the trip thus far.



4514 Posted on Jun 27 2005, 08:32 PM
aussies have glass jaws.
4514
rank and file


i'm not entirely sure that i know what this means :huh:

i do like you signature though - i can tell that a lot of work and imagination went into that one ;)

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by apathy [email protected] 27 2005, 09:54 AM
So how many people are going to SoS? Chris, myself, Black Dagger?
I'm actually in Aotearoa at the moment! :lol:
That said, kiwis- any tips/suggestions/advice, i'm in Auckland, and i've yet to find anything remotely progressive. I'm stuck basically in the city, but im willing to get on a bus or train, i just dont know where to go. I cant find any active anarchist orgs in NZ (on the web), gathering places or even bookshops etc. Help me please!

[pedro san pedro]

my advice would to be to get out of auckland as quickly as possible and go enjoy the nice parts of the country

[Rockfan]

Originally posted by pedro san [email protected] 10 2005, 03:38 AM
my advice would to be to get out of auckland as quickly as possible and go enjoy the nice parts of the country
Yeah exacly like rotorua (well not really cos it smells, who would build a town on top a fucking geothemal area full of sulfer).

Yeah I love sheep aye, there always willing and theres no small talk or anything lol but seriously you wont find many progressive people in nz. were just so detached from the rest of the world and we can't sort out our own shit, i mean we seam to be neck deep in our polititions shit all the time. Or mabay we just talk about that because we don't like to admit that we shag sheep.

Oh well just wait to the AB's smoke you in the tri nations (again)

[Black Dagger]

So-um, there's no progressive groups/places i can go to? In Auckland or otherwise? :P

[small101]

Greetings comrades!

i am from Brisbane QLD (Aust.) and i am sooo glad i found this place. I thought i would never find a place like this.

Here i go, this is my political ratio:

i am, Slightly Bookchinist, largely communist (der.), Moderately Council communist, moderately Democratic Socialist, largely Guild Socialist, Hugely Marxist, moderately Populist, largely Progressionist (except for the dictator thing), moderately libertarian socialist and moderatey Titoist.

i am NOT a Maoist, Not a Stalinist, Not a Leninist (Althought he had many good theories) Not a Fascist, Not a Capitalist.

so i look foward to talking to you all!

[apathy maybe]

Edit.

[apathy maybe]

I'm not a mod in two forums. It is fucked up.

Smash it up.

[Anarcho-Communist]

Black Dagger, why not start a group. I sure am keen to get involved... :lol:

[Black Dagger]

Well i'm only going to be here until mid-November. And besides, it'd be more useful if i helped out people who were already organised, i just can't seem to find anyone.

[4514]

Necropolis
195a symonds st
auckland
this is where the auckland city punks live and is also a private venue for punk\hXc\ska etc just rock up there, all friendly bunch, chris and pete. simon, i don't know if there still there but check it out anyway, those living there will point you in the right direction, a few of them are part of anarchist groups.
also check out the auckland uni they also have a socialst group, similar to aussies resistance group, black flag? somthing like that , again just cruise down to the uni, shadows bar, thursday nites, cheap jugs, lots of people someone will know there name or check back here tommorow. i'll ring my sister and she'll find out for me.

i would give you the names of my lefist friends i grew up with but their all overseas like me or sadly in jail, mental wards and dead :( mikey R.I.P

but if you just wanna meet some cool people just to hang out,
send me a mobile number or email address in a secure message and ill give to my close friends, their all cool people, not hardline marxist\ anarchist but definite friends of left bro, ( none of them are straight edge in case your one of the many who dislike my kind, they all give me shit about it as well :D )
4514
rank and file
straight edge to your face!

[Ian]

I'm kinda interested in the NZ hardcore scene

[4514]

dsm-hXc
missing teeth-ska punk
die!die!die!-punk
balance-hXc
malovolence- they call themselves chesse-core? but its very brutal.
stich face-ska punk
state of it-hXc\metal

i waiting for my sister to send me a whole lot over, she fucking hopless though so it could be a while ;) but when it arrives im happy to burn some for you as i get alot of my computer shit for free :D unkles are cool!

the scene over-all is cool, very open and friendly, from welly to aucks but i think it would be hard to find a punk hXc sXe scene that wasn't, hXc kids are the most welcoming and friendly bunch of people you can meet.
wellington was where they usually had the annual festivals (and still do) but the scene has grown heaps since ive been gone, so gigs are all over the nation these days.
4514
"live for this, every drop of blood, every bitter tear, every drop of sweat, i live for this!"
hatebreed.

[Black Dagger]

Thanks for the info 4514,



also check out the auckland uni they also have a socialst group, similar to aussies resistance group, black flag?

Black flag? Sounds like an anarchist org. I'm actually at AU at the moment, no signs of any socialist groups, at least they're not affiliated with the student union or anything.

I'll check out Necropolis.

[4514]

hey black dagger,
Email: [email protected]
nz zine for anarchist

www.anarchism.org.nz.

link for lefty parties aotearoa (http://www.broadleft.org/nz.htm)

hope these help,
4514
rank and file

[Ian]

hatebreed suck

[bombeverything]

Is this 4514 person for real?

[4514]

Is this 4514 person for real?
no im actually spawned from internet hackers, i live in your computer! with your friend johnny, say hi johnny, johnny? hohnny?
JOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYY YY!?!!?!! :o

it just what the sites called bro, deal with it if thats what you were getting at.
moron.




Ian Posted on Jul 29 2005, 12:23 PM
hatebreed suck

:P LOL
sorry your almighty.
but i know what you like,
neighbors. sweet. it's there 20th year. congrats bro.
but where was kyle? huh? aye?
i thought that was very "Unaustralian mate"
joe mangle though, now he's a true blue.
just like beetroot! tuff. its not australian without the beetroot.
4514
rank and file

[bombeverything]

no im actually spawned from internet hackers, i live in your computer! with your friend johnny, say hi johnny, johnny? hohnny?
JOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYY YY!?!!?!!

it just what the sites called bro, deal with it if thats what you were getting at.
moron.

That is exactly what I was getting at. Thankyou very much.

Bye Johnny.

By the way despite the fact that the moron part is true, wasn't the comment technically unfounded as you are merely a computer virus with no real understanding of human intellect?

[Holocaustpulp]

I know a guy from Brisbane, Australia, but he is part of a meritocratic organization, not a socialist one. He does tell me however that the socialist movement in Australia is slow and essentially useless. Indeed it seems only the large unions of Australia are going to be the main defense for worker's rights against the newly reelected Howard government, a man that can be compared to Thatcher and Reagan in terms of policy.

- HP

[4514]

By the way despite the fact that the moron part is true, wasn't the comment technically unfounded as you are merely a computer virus with no real understanding of human intellect?

machines can cry to damn you! have you never seen the movie short circut or its sequal short circut 2?
do really have to push the keys so hard? and would it hurt if you washed your hands before you log on? and a new fan wouldn't go a miss! do you know how hot it is when your online for this long? huh? well do you?
4514
rank and file

[Scars]

I'm in New Zealand, Palmerston North to be exact.

[apathy maybe]

cOOL. gO FIND bLACK dAGGER AND HUG HIM FOR ME!

[apathy maybe]

Edit.

[apathy maybe]

Originally posted by Cthenthar

I would highly reccomend that all Australians please check out my threads in practice.

Please. :)
Why? Smash it up!

[Xiao Banfa]

I am from Aotearoa. Wellington to be exact. Please talk to me

[apathy maybe]

Edit.

[4514]

tino rangatiratanga what part of welly? im a petone boy, well was, its where i grew up, when it was a hood, i hear its a caffe strip now?
my families mainly from wanganui so wer've all got a big connection with the maori indepenence movement, i live in perth now but have been home a few times, xmas,21st etc.

fuck im still gutted from the weekend loss to the boq. fucking safa's!
we'll fuck the aussies over and i'll be happy again.
go the blacks!
4514
rank and file

[Palmares]

A question to the kiwis:

I've been talking to a NZ anarchist lately and he has been telling me about the Wellington anarchist scene. It sounds quite good.

Does anyone here know much about it? And by the sounds of it, Auckland is pretty lacking. Sound kinda like Sydney compared to Melbourne.

[rioters bloc]

wanted to go to sos but couldnt get time off work :(

[visceroid]

ah, from perth here, part of resistance. who else is part of resistance or dsp?

[rioters bloc]

a lot of my friends are, but not me personally

welcome :)

edit: A COUPLE of my friends are. misread it at first.

[Black Dagger]

Does anyone here know much about it? And by the sounds of it, Auckland is pretty lacking. Sound kinda like Sydney compared to Melbourne.

I live in Sydney, and Auckland... but i'll be in Melbourne for the first half of next year! See you at the Stolenwealth games protests Cthenthar! :D


I am from Aotearoa. Wellington to be exact. Please talk to me

Reading your username... you've heard about National plans to abolish the Māori seats ye? What's your take on that and the Māori party more generally.

I apologise for the broad question :P
I've just been learning a lot recently about the colonisation process in Aotearoa, the seizure/theft/buying of land, te Tiriti, tino rangatiratanga, mana motuhake and so forth. Very interesting stuff.

[rioters bloc]

is anyone involved in the following protest?



Asia Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate (APP-CDC)

Email dated: 16 August 2005
Subject: [resistance] Condoleeza Rice coming to Adelaide


Condoleeza Rice and possibly Donald Rumsfeld in Adelaide

Yes You read it right, Condoleeza Rice will be in Adelaide in November. Possibly Donald Rumsfeld too!

The occasion? The inaugural meeting for the "Asia Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate" (APP-CDC). The six nation group of green house polluters is really a club of the two worst environmental vandals in the world (Australia and the USA) with 4 lesser polluters (China, India, South Korea and Taiwan) to rip up the Kyoto protocol.

Australia in recent years has lead the charge to junk the Kyoto protocol of reducing greenhouse emissions and the US has followed the lead of Australian big polluters. The APP-CDC proposes no limitation on greenhouse pollution, just the vague promise to introduce environmentally friendly technology to the third world but no targets or enforceability for this. APP-CDC is really just a smoke-screen or a stunt to cover up Australia and US corporate and environmental vandalism that is wrecking our planet and killing its people.

It is now universally recognised that the greenhouse effect is a deadly serious and worsening environmental disaster. According to the most comprehensive survey ever carried out on global warming (published in The Australian earlier this year), earth's temperatures are changing much faster than expected. The survey warned London could be under water within 50 years. The future of the world's island nations and agricultural societies will be most dramatically affected. While the rich will always be able to buy up the best land, and make money from any crisis, environmental vandalism is destroying the planet and majority of the people.

The powers that be have picked Adelaide hoping that we are small and passive enough to offer no resistance to there meeting. The polluters want to make this an international media coup for their irresponsible head in the sand approach to out of control climate change. We need to make this an international public relations disaster for them! The challenge is on. if there was ever a time to get active it is now.

Top 6 reasons to make make Rice's visit a PR disaster

1. Green House effect is a dangerous runaway environmental disaster. The corporate poulluters are simply ignoring this fact.
2. Condoleeza Rice was the national security adviser during the Iraq invasion that has lead to death of 100 000 Iraqi civilians in the name of ridding the world of Sadam Hussien's fictional "weapons of mass destruction".
3. Howard will be there, Downer will be there, all the Australian government big wigs willl be trying to soak up some of the "glory" while the whole world will be watching on the international media. We can show the world what we really think.
4. The occupation of Iraq is losing its grip. The opposition to US imperialism in Iraq and all around the world, especially in Latin America, is gaining strength. a show of popular opposition to this meeting of the imperialists in their heartland, the safe tranquil Adelaide, will encourage international Resistance and struggle.
5. This will be the biggest political event for Adelaide since the invasion of Iraq. The chance to trigger greater inviolvement in struggle against our own bankrupt government is massive.
6. There will be a national convergance on Adelaide for the summit with people from accross the country coming to join the protest.
7. We have a world to win. We have nothing to lose. The power lies with the majority of people. We must fight for new world based on humn need not corporate greed.

NOWAR Adelaide (the group that organised the massive demonstrations against the invasion of Iraq) has called for action against Rice's visit. NOWAR has innitiated coalition , open to all groups and individuals who would like to help organise the protest.




i really wanna go. i HATE rice.

[Black Dagger]

i really wanna go. i HATE rice

Hahahah, for a minute there i thought you meant you hate rice, as in the food rice. I read the banner, than quickly skimmed to the bottom because i know i wouldnt be able to go to the protest and you were talking about hating rice and i thought, 'hey, i really like rice!' and wondered that maybe they were serve rice at the protest or something and dont like rice so didnt want to go.

Rice is great.

[/dontask]

[rioters bloc]

does anyone know/has anyone heard about the guy i'm talking about in this post?

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php...topic=40314&hl= (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=40314&hl=)

he's been incarcerated in melbourne.

[Palmares]

Holy shit, I have the feeling that was the guy who held the Haliburton talk at SSF.

This whole siuation scares me...

[Monty Cantsin]

I saw him at the spokes council.

[apathy maybe]

Poor Scott. I say we smash the state and free him.

[Blathilzar]

I find it odd that im the only person from christchurch to post in this topic
...mabey were lazyier than other places in NZ?
meh what ever im gonna go to sleep now

[rioters bloc]

w00t, check this article. this is US :D taken from http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/nelson...l?oneclick=true (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/nelson-backs-out-again-as-students-protest/2005/09/28/1127804511206.html?oneclick=true)


oh and i posted photos here: http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php...entry1291943740 (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=40938&st=0&#entry1291943740)


Nelson backs out again as students protest
By Justin Norrie
September 28, 2005 - 11:05AM


For the second time in a month the federal Education Minister, Brendan Nelson, has backed out of a university speaking engagement, citing concerns for his safety.

Dr Nelson was en route to an education conference at the University of Sydney this morning when his minders informed him by telephone that about 60 students had gathered to protest against the Government's proposed voluntary student unionism legislation.

Dr Nelson immediately cancelled his appearance and turned back.

"The Australian Federal Police have advised us that it is not safe for Brendan to be here, so he has had to cancel unfortunately," a spokeswoman for Dr Nelson said.

Last month, Dr Nelson cancelled an appearance at the University of Technology because it coincided with a student protest against voluntary student unionism, which police considered likely to pose dangers.

In the same week, Health Minister Tony Abbott cancelled a voluntary student unionism debate with Labor's Julia Gillard at Sydney University, after NSW Police refused to guarantee his safety from protesting students.
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Just before 9am today, about 60 students linked arms, blocking entry to the University of Sydney's Merewether Building, where the Australia and New Zealand School of Government was due to hold a conference "Schooling for the 21st Century".

The students repeatedly chanted: "VSU: no way" and "No VSU, not now not ever. Students are stronger standing together."

Conference delegate Seamus O'Grady was knocked to the ground while trying to enter the building.

Mr O'Grady, the Catholic Education Office's director of religious education and curriculum, was unhurt.

"I know it's grand final week, but I didn't expect that I would get crash-tackled at an education conference," he said . "They said that it was me who assaulted them."

About 15 police and a handful of security guards tried to break up the protest.

Conference organiser Peter Debus said: "Security people had a meeting last night and they said there would only be 15 protesters here. I don't know what happened."

Rose Jackson, president of the university's Student Representative Council, said: "I'm really surprised that there was such a small police presence. Previous police response has been really aggressive and heavy-handed. We told them there would be a couple of dozen protesters here. We warned them."

The former head of the consumer watchdog, Allan Fels, stepped in to open the conference after Dr Nelson's cancellation.

"It's just a real shame that the students won't let [Dr Nelson] in here to express his point of view," Mr Fels said. "It tends to go against all of their own arguments about freedom of speech."

The protest ended about 10am.

AAP reports: Dr Nelson told reporters that police told him up to 50 protesters had occupied the building where he was to give his speech.
He said it was clear that under no circumstances would the protesters allow him to open the conference.

"Unfortunately these people, I'm advised by police, had occupied the building (and were) some of the hardest core demonstrators that police frequently encounter," he said.

Dr Nelson said he would post the speech he planned to give at the conference on the education department website.

"We are absolutely determined to drive school reform in Australia to international standards.

"I think it's unfortunate we live in a country where it seems you've got to have hundreds of police just so you can go about doing your job," he said.

[youngmarxist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 03:31 PM
it's funny because kiwis really do fuck sheep and every australian knows its true so shut up dick
David from Brisbane here....Sorry Jon I disagree, Brisbane is NOT a hole, its going off at the moment. I moved to Brisbane from Adelaide 3 years ago and have never looked back.

And Ian its a pity you would insult New Zealanders when your avatar is Nicky Winmar standing up to racists. If racism is bad for one, it is bad for all.

[youngmarxist]

For the second time in a month the federal Education Minister, Brendan Nelson, has backed out of a university speaking engagement, citing concerns for his safety.

Dr Nelson was en route to an education conference at the University of Sydney this morning when his minders informed him by telephone that about 60 students had gathered to protest against the Government's proposed voluntary student unionism legislation.
...
Last month, Dr Nelson cancelled an appearance at the University of Technology because it coincided with a student protest against voluntary student unionism, which police considered likely to pose dangers.

In the same week, Health Minister Tony Abbott cancelled a voluntary student unionism debate with Labor's Julia Gillard at Sydney University, after NSW Police refused to guarantee his safety from protesting students.

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How do you reconcile denying free speech with your leftism? Would it not be more democratic to defeat Nelson in debate?

[youngmarxist]

Originally posted by apathy [email protected] 13 2005, 01:35 PM
Poor Scott. I say we smash the state and free him.


Since Scott Parkin is a non-violent activist, I am not sure he would appreciate you smashing the state to free him.

[Black Dagger]

How do you reconcile denying free speech with your leftism? Would it not be more democratic to defeat Nelson in debate?

Do you support VSU?

[rioters bloc]

nelson coulda debated with us. but he chose to run away. guess how much it costed for a student to go to that conference? $220. for a conference which was in our own fucking university. how many students do you know who can afford that [apart from some young liberals who managed to go cos daddy paid for them]? who's denying who free speech here?

btw theres a thread in the graphics forum with photos from that action ;) also one with other anti-vsu actions.

hey so scott parkin wrote an article abt his experiences in aus... ihere it is:

[its from http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/parkin2.html]


Dissent Isn't Taken Lightly Down Under
By Scott Parkin
5 October 2005

WASHINGTON, October 5 (HalliburtonWatch.org) -- Historian Michael Foley said during times of war pacifists often get mugged. As a non-violent activist working to end the war in Iraq and the corporate war profiteering that comes with it, September 2005 has been the most surreal time of my life and I definitely feel like I got mugged by Australian Attorney General Phillip Ruddock and the Australian government.

After three lovely months of traveling through Australia and meeting people, one Wednesday afternoon during the second week of September I was called by the Australian Security Intelligence Organization, or ASIO, and asked to come in for an interview. I asked if I was required to do so and the woman at the other end of the phone said "No, you are not obliged too." I then asked if this would affect the remaining two weeks of my time in Australia and she said she couldn't say. I should have listened with closer attention to that non-answer.

A few days later, walking out of a café in Melbourne, I was snatched off the street by 4 Australian Federal Police and 2 Immigration Compliant Officers. They informed me I was being placed into "questioning detention" so that the Department of Immigration could assess if they were going to cancel my tourist visa or not. In truth, "a competent Australian authority" had already assessed me to be a "direct or indirect risk to Australian national security", cancelled my visa and began the process of removing me from the country (which would end up costing me $11,000 Australian dollars). By that evening, I was in solitary confinement at the Melbourne Custody Center, a maximum security lock-up awaiting that not-so free ride home. In addition, that evening, a media firestorm erupted in Australia and I became the center of debate over free speech and the criminalization of dissent in Australia.

I spent a good part of July and August doing workshops on our Houston based campaign to get Halliburton out of Iraq, people powered strategies to end the illegal occupation of Iraq and non-violent action. The Halliburton talks discussed the company's history of corruption and cronyism in Iraq, tactics and strategies used by community organizers in Houston (and elsewhere) to pressure Halliburton out of Iraq and the campaign in the larger context of the American anti-war movement. The people power strategies workshop is an approach to social action that addresses immediate community priorities, builds power by mobilizing citizens, is framed by core 'citizen values' and challenges structural inequalities. It imparts on participants methods to craft a clear strategy in working for social change. The non-violent action workshops were facilitated them in the tradition of Thoreau, Gandhi, King and countless other advocates for non-violent social change.

I facilitated these trainings at the Brisbane Social Forum, the Sydney Social Forum and Subplot, a forum for autonomous and student activists. The latter two venues were precursors for 2 days of protests against the Forbes Global CEO Conference at the Sydney Opera House.

During those 2 days of protests, I also organized a protest outside the Sydney offices of war profiteer Halliburton's subsidiary KBR. It was a political theater event where my cohorts and I dressed up as billionaires, named ourselves "The Coalition of the Billing" and chanted such insurrectionary chants as "1-2-3-4, we make money when there's war, 5-6-7-8, KBR's really great!" and "We're here, we're rich, get used to it!". It was a fun little protest and many of the New South Wales police watching were laughing along with our comedy routine. I can only guess that Phillip Ruddock and ASIO missed the underlying humor.

While they may currently hold all the legal cards, they are losing the public debate as lawyers, civil libertarians, environmentalists; former government whistleblowers, grassroots activists, major media outlets and some politicians have spoken out and acted on this baffling outrageous episode. Currently, their best response has been that I "incited spirited protest". All over Australia, local communities have mobilized and rallied around my detention and removal. There have been numerous NON-VIOLENT protests, occupations and direct communications all over Australia, and in the United States, confronting Prime Minister John Howard, Phillip Ruddock and the Australian government about their shabby handling of me and my civil rights. Major Australian media outlets have questioned daily why their government has acted in such a manner. This doesn't even include the outpouring of support I have read from people all over the world fed up with this type of behavior from "liberal western democracies" seeking to restrict and criminalize dissent under the auspices of "national security" and the "war on terror".

Since my departure from Australia, an article appeared in The Australian --a Rupert Murdoch owned newspaper with right wing leanings-- stating I had planned to teach violent protest tactics. Apparently, anonymous government sources informed reporters at The Australian that I would be discussing how to throw marbles under police horse hooves, how to spring protestors from custody and how to isolate police during marches and surround them. These charges are completely ludicrous. I am completely opposed to any actions that would harm police animals or officers. I have publicly stated during workshops previous to this entire episode that tactics such as this are not a good idea and lead to things like "assault on a police officer". I am philosophically and practically opposed to the use of such tactics. These are the same sort of stories put out by American authorities and right wing media about non-violent protestors since the 1999 protests against the World Trade Organization in Seattle.

Bob Dylan once alleged to live outside the law you must be honest. I have been known to live outside the law from time to time and it has given me a degree of self-realization and honesty which I apply to my activism. I realize that while my actions are not necessarily the norm in today's world, they are dictated by conscience or as Thoreau once said "The mass of men serve the state thus, not as men mainly, but as machines, with their bodies…… A very few--as heroes, patriots, martyrs, reformers in the great sense, and men--serve the state with their consciences also, and so necessarily resist it for the most part; and they are commonly treated as enemies by it." After the backlash I have seen against the Australian government's treatment of me, I can honestly say the Australian people are on the right track to serving their country with their consciences.

[Ian]

Originally posted by youngmarxist+Oct 5 2005, 02:30 AM--> (youngmarxist @ Oct 5 2005, 02:30 AM)
[email protected] 24 2005, 03:31 PM
it's funny because kiwis really do fuck sheep and every australian knows its true so shut up dick
David from Brisbane here....Sorry Jon I disagree, Brisbane is NOT a hole, its going off at the moment. I moved to Brisbane from Adelaide 3 years ago and have never looked back.

And Ian its a pity you would insult New Zealanders when your avatar is Nicky Winmar standing up to racists. If racism is bad for one, it is bad for all. [/b]
Clearly I was joking

[apathy maybe]

Originally posted by Monty Cantsin
From what I understand from media watch it’s a leak of the document which is supposedly meant to be secret so save it…though the AFP are in a habbit of destroying peoples computers if they think there is or has been sensitive material on there…I don’t know were I stand though because I haven’t actually read the bill yet.
What the hell has this got to do with anything?

[rioters bloc]

where's that quote of Monty's from?

[apathy maybe]

It was in the 'other' thread. He may have posted it in the wrong thread (well I meant the thread he didn't intend to post it it, obviously posting it in the 'other' thread is wrong.)

[Monty Cantsin]

its from the australian thread...

I was just being a littlie paranoid but yer the draft is leaked so I was saying save it encase the link disappears…because the federal government was furious that this guy released the document which they wanted to keep secret so they could push it through without much debate.

[Monty Cantsin]

do you want to merge the other thread into this one...thus creating a huge thread deticated to both nations in question...

[Palmares]

Given that NZ has a pretty cool anarcho community, I wouldn't mind it.

Just keep in mind how some areas will seem weird with the crossover of non-related posts... :lol:

[Monty Cantsin]

so if we merge it will be ordered according to date the particular post was posted?

[Rockfan]

Man I can't wait till next year to watch the AB's kick your auzzie ass again.

[4514]

yea bro thats going to be so sweet. stupid australians. they wear green and gold. bahahahahahahahahahaha............................ .................................................. ...................hahahahahahahahahahaha......... ...........ha.
abz forever!
4514
broken and dying

[apathy maybe]

Noooo!!! We must not have the old thread with the crappy first post!

Actually, I wouldn't mind the two threads being merged on one condition, that Cthenthar updates the first post so that people know to read only the last couple of pages. (Oh wait! Monty! you could do it!).

[socialistfuture]

I live in Aotearoa on a little island near smelly Auckland.

Black Dagger - auckland has a few things.
necropolis is more a socialist rather than anarchist hangout these days. all are welcome.
there a few socialist/communist parties. im in Socialist Worker and sometimes go to the friday forums of the Millitant paper ppl.

theres a new thing called the workers -charter.http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0510/S00116.htm is an article about their first conference ( i went to it last weekend)

also there is the misfits theatre on great north rd - a shop that sells patches and DIY gear - theres a show there on saturday.

www.punkas.com is a nz site with punk/ska/metal shows theres somtimes activist stuff posted on the forum.

I met a couple of ozzy socialists recently. one from brisbine who went to venezuela for the youth socialist festival and one from the DSP who came over here for the workers charter conference. im going over to oz in march next year probly. going to sydney and i wanna mish it to Nimbin.

[Rockfan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2005, 08:33 AM
I live in Aotearoa on a little island near smelly Auckland.


necropolis is more a socialist rather than anarchist hangout these days. all are welcome.

Great barrier island??

is necropolis some place in auckland that no one north of the bridge and south of the bombays has heard of??

[Black Dagger]

Thanks for the heads up bro, but unfortunately i'll be back in oz in less than two weeks! :P I'll check out the misfits theatre, thank :)

[4514]

is necropolis some place in auckland that no one north of the bridge and south of the bombays has heard of??

well considering two of the orignal people who lived and began the necro were from the nth shaw and mikey who lived in the attic was originally from welly.
i remember the first shows they had there, fuck that placed rocked, sadly i don't think their allowed music there anymore? fucking pigs!
4514
broken and dying

[socialistfuture]

not barrier, waiheke island.

since the unityfest when the piggies stormed the necropolis there was a big break from music. i went to a party there this year where there were some bands playing tho.

[Hiero]

How did you all go in the Melbourne cup?

I had as $10 trifecta Makybe Diva, Leica Falcon, Eye Popper not in any order. Had $5 for Leica Falcon to win, and $5 for Vinnie to place. So i didn't win shit.

[rioters bloc]

my friend put $10 on a trifecta a coupla years ago and won $3700. too bad her parents stole her money.

[visceroid]

damn, i wish i could go back in time and put all my money on that winning horse, now that i knwo its going to win. ingenious idea is i not?

[Palmares]

Melbourne Cup... and to think they have a public holiday in Melbourne for this damn thing!

*Shakes fist*

[apathy maybe]

What's the Melbourne Cup?

[rioters bloc]

chris and michael, when are your next trial dates? are you coming up again or is your lawyer representing you?

i just remembered cos i was there when holly called you [chris]. completely forgot it was next tuesday

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by apathy [email protected] 2 2005, 04:53 PM
What's the Melbourne Cup?
An annual horse race, held in melbourne.

[4514]

and yes the all blacks have kicked of their u.k tour by thrashing wales yet again.
whales haven't beaten us for over fifty years hahaha and it'll be atleast anotha fifty before they do.................
but the best results was france beating aussie, thats their 6th straight loss, suckers, apparently heads will roll but thats pointless cuz theres only more losers to replace the losers already in their team. :lol: :lol: :lol:
4514

[comradeadam]

Reprensenting South Australia!!! hello fellow aussie comrades.Anyway i live in the country so there is no 'szene of any description AT ALL.Im sure that if i tried to organise something i would get abused by the rednecks that populate where i live.


I still keep the faith :hammer: :che: :engles: :marx:


Yours truly
Comrade Adam

[rioters bloc]

welcome! whereabts do you live in south australia? [i know a few ppl from there]

let's hope people become more aware.

p.s. i wish nsw had as good a hip hop scene... it is growing tho...:D

[comradeadam]

Originally posted by rioters [email protected] 9 2005, 10:27 PM
welcome! whereabts do you live in south australia? [i know a few ppl from there]

let's hope people become more aware.

p.s. i wish nsw had as good a hip hop scene... it is growing tho...:D
I live in port lincoln and i dont like hip hop all that much.Yeah i hope people become more aware too.

Yours Truly
Adam

[rioters bloc]

oh :( that's sad. i love it :P specially australian stuff. oh well, enjoy yourself on the board!

[Black Dagger]

Aussie hip-hop is shit, you know it! Kiwi hip-hop is where's it at :D

[rioters bloc]

don't you dare say that :P

ill indoctrinate you yet :D

[comradeadam]

They are both shit next time i hear scribe ill hit someone. :angry:

[4514]

scribe isnt really hiphop, hes a pop star like jay wess.

kiwi hiphop is tha meke although i do like muff an plutonic lab from aussie, those bros cool aye.
4514

[rioters bloc]

i like that song, moment of clarity by muph and plutonic. that's all i've heard by them [its on the current stealth mag cd]

hykoo and osinaka are alright. bliss n eso have a coupla good songs, too bad they're dickheads in real life :/ anyone on elefant traks gets the thumbs up from me. people tell me i sound like mc trey when i rap :P wish i looked like her too ;)

[4514]

elephant traks are sweet, my aussie collection is minimal at best but im sure it will grow in time. theres a few good mcee's over here in perth but im not really into the scene, too many cool people and im to much of a smart ass when tough guys start on me. fucken tough guys with their cool clothes and shoes.
fucken trendy aussies, all shinny an shit............. :P
4514

[rioters bloc]

LOL i'm not too into the scene either. too many sexist fucks in it for me to really wanna be a part of it. but i go to as many gigs as i can, and record my own raps [haha] and make my own shitty shitt beats [double haha :lol:]. i used to graf but had a fall out with my graf buddies so don't do it as much anymore.

[Rockfan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 12:51 AM
and yes the all blacks have kicked of their u.k tour by thrashing wales yet again.
whales haven't beaten us for over fifty years hahaha and it'll be atleast anotha fifty before they do.................
but the best results was france beating aussie, thats their 6th straight loss, suckers, apparently heads will roll but thats pointless cuz theres only more losers to replace the losers already in their team. :lol: :lol: :lol:
4514
Haha and now the poms have beaten them lol. As for the AB's marching over the Irish with the Scots (poor buggers, it should be a mid-week game) and the English in our sights.

[4514]

Haha and now the poms have beaten them lol. As for the AB's marching over the Irish with the Scots (poor buggers, it should be a mid-week game) and the English in our sights.

hahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol: yea those fucken wannabies, fucken useless bastards!
7 in a row! :lol: :lol: :lol:
i cant wait for the ABs to smash those pommy gits too.
:angry: the all black iron fist rules forever :angry: .
4514

[Creature]

Sorry to interupt this topic brimming with intellectual thought and discussion.

But I'm from Aus, and apparently I'm, 'expected' to post! :P

So now I have... Now that this is over with... :D

[rioters bloc]

hahaha welcome dude :)

if i wasnt meant to be studying, id make you a welcome picture

ill leave it up to fist of blood

have fun!

[Creature]

Hold up, gimme a sec.

<<<<<<< There we go.

[4514]

LOL i&#39;m not too into the scene either. too many sexist fucks in it for me to really wanna be a part of it. but i go to as many gigs as i can, and record my own raps [haha] and make my own shitty shitt beats [double haha ]. i used to graf but had a fall out with my graf buddies so don&#39;t do it as much anymore.

the raps are cool, i think everybody has an emcee in em somewhere :P
i love writing beats but im into ska punc reggae beats at the present, i suck also :lol:


Sorry to interupt this topic brimming with intellectual thought and discussion.

yea there nothing intellectual about being 7 time losers :D
hey did you win soccer? :lol:
what has your country won lately? :lol:
just jokes aye bro,
4514

[Black Dagger]

what has your country won lately?

The cricket, the ICC Super Series versus the World XI, and at the moment the test series against the West Indies.

I just checked recent inter. rugby results, oz havent won since july&#33;
I am a big fan of the ABs&#39; though, i watched some of the NPC when i was in Aotearoa the past 5 months, supporting Auckland :D The ABs are probably the most exciting team around at the moment, and they&#39;ve got sooooo much depth.

Some interesting stuff i found, these are good results for international rugby

Argentina beat Scotland 23-19 last saturday&#33; :)
Wales only just beat Fiji, 10-11- what an upset that would have been&#33;
And Argentina also had a good showing against South Africa, going down 34-23.

-some inter. cricket results, Pakistan A beat England by 6 wickets&#33; :lol: Damn i love reading about the poms getting done in cricket

-and finally this,


Uruguay forward Alvaro Recoba believes his country deserves a World Cup place more than Australia.

He said: "We&#39;re a big country with a big past and we&#39;ve got a right to play. Uruguay has a divine right to play. Uruguay is Uruguay."

That makes no sense, but Uruguay does deserve the spot more, i think they&#39;re obviously the better team- but last time they beat Australia to get their spot in the WC they performed horrible in the finals, and (i think) came last in their group, meh. If only oz&#39; best forwards weren&#39;t plagued with injuries, i.e. kewell and viduka.

[4514]

The cricket, the ICC Super Series versus the World XI, and at the moment the test series against the West Indies.

bro those dont count, thats like me claiming ABs wins over ireland and wales, there mid week practice couz ;)

If only oz&#39; best forwards weren&#39;t plagued with injuries, i.e. kewell and viduka
yea and if your team scored more points you would have won the game............. :lol:


and bro i can&#39;t beleive your a blues fan? you know that makes you a j.a.f.a aye?
so sad bro you use to be cool but your&#39;ve changed...........so sad :(

so your back in oz bro? so are you speaking kiwi-frudge or aussie-fredge? (fridge).
4514

[Black Dagger]

so your back in oz bro? so are you speaking kiwi-frudge or aussie-fredge? (fridge).

Fridge, the aussie way. Except now i say sweet, sweet as, and yeah-ah a lot :P



j.a.f.a aye?

To the core&#33; I lived in Auckland, and the blues have my favourite AB-ever,
Sam Tuitupou :)

[Creature]

Say 66.

[rioters bloc]

bloody hell, this game isn&#39;t even interesting.

there must have been at least 200 people in green and gold in the city today.

*sighs*

[rioters bloc]

spoke to soon

aus just scored&#33;

[rioters bloc]

OMFG AUSTRALIA ARE THROUGH???

WHAT THE FUCK??? in penalties as well&#33;&#33;


who woulda thought&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


not me for sure...

[4514]

hahaha wow aussie won somthing.
4514

[rioters bloc]

i know. fucking scary hey :P


eh, theyll get knocked out first round.

[Black Dagger]

True, but so would have Uruguay&#33; :P

[rioters bloc]

tell THAT to the uruguyans&#33; :P

edit: uruguayans is hard to spell...:(

[Black Dagger]

But but but, oz hasn&#39;t been in the WC in 32 years&#33; Might as well give em&#39; a chance, they&#39;ll probably go out early, but it&#39;ll be good for the popularity of football in this country, especially with the wallabies stinking it up in the UK at the moment.

[Creature]

Swimming at the Olympics? We always seem to win in that. The occaisional athletics.

[4514]

swimming?......................yea thorpey says "there fully sick".
:lol: wat a gip that doesn&#39;t count bro.............
4514

[Black Dagger]

Swimming doesn&#39;t count, but Rugby does?

Reality check bro, practically no one outside of british white colonies has heard of Rugby&#33; If you&#39;re biggest sporting claim to fame is the AB&#39;s (and don&#39;t get me wrong, they&#39;re the best team in the world at the moment), then you need to keep trying, because Rugby doesn&#39;t register on most peoples sporting radars. Swimming does, Football does- when was the last time Aotearoa qualified for the WC? :P

[Rockfan]

Why, why, why, why must you ruin the fun me and 4514 were having beween ourselves, we post about it cos we love it man, I mean I&#39;m gonna get up at 3:30 and watch the game live tomorow mournig. BTW 2011 world cup in NZ YEAH :D

[Black Dagger]

BTW 2011 world cup in NZ YEAH

Does Oceania even have a in-direct place anymore? Oz has moved to the Asian confederation as of the 2010 WC (not 2011 :P&#33;) qualifiers, i really don&#39;t see NZ beating the fifth placed Sth American team, sorry&#33; *hangs with the much cooler Asian cup nations*

[Rockfan]

Your talking about rugby right.

[Black Dagger]

Football, aka Soccer.

[Rockfan]

Well I was talking about rugby as in NZ is hosting the WC in 2011.

[apathy maybe]

I hate cops.

[Monty Cantsin]

that sucks apathy maybe, do you think your going to beat the charges?

[Commie Rat]

Townsville Qld

(you know the one with Lavrack Barracks and the kittens getting killed)
(and people dressed up in Klan suits)
(and Palm Island)

fun

had rocks ect thrown at me on several occasions (damn rednecks)

[rioters bloc]

hey apathy maybe, michael told me today about your new charges :( that&#39;s fucked up and stupid and fucked up >:(

such fuckers. is that even allowed, its been like 3 months&#33;

[4514]

pigs can do anything they want.
they wear blue pants.
tight pants.
do anything they want.
fucken pigs.


[/QUOTE]Reality check bro, practically no one outside of british white colonies has heard of Rugby&#33; If you&#39;re biggest sporting claim to fame is the AB&#39;s (and don&#39;t get me wrong, they&#39;re the best team in the world at the moment), then you need to keep trying, because Rugby doesn&#39;t register on most peoples sporting radars. Swimming does, Football does- when was the last time Aotearoa qualified for the WC? [QUOTE]

thats cuz most people are retards.
and soccer is lame. so very lame.
"center kicks to wing, wing holds it, holds it, wing passes it to midfield, mid field to center, center holds , holds ,center holds, center passes it to wing.............................................. .........................."

how fucken xciting that game is.
0-0 <_<
1-0 <_<
2-1 <_<
lame.
so very lame.


haha the allblacks rule, we crushed those moron poms,.
we had 13 men and you still couldnt score. :lol: :lol: :lol:
lame.
like soccer.
very lame.
4514
(looks like a fucken emo kid. so wrong)

[Rockfan]

hahaha nice one 4514, I feel sorry for the Scots, it&#39;s gonna be a thrashing. keep it up bro :lol:

[Creature]

thats cuz most people are retards.
and soccer is lame. so very lame.
"center kicks to wing, wing holds it, holds it, wing passes it to midfield, mid field to center, center holds , holds ,center holds, center passes it to wing.............................................. .........................."

how fucken xciting that game is.
0-0
1-0
2-1
lame.
so very lame.

Pffft, stop watching the simpsons, and think of your own insults.

Soccer requires skill. Sorry if you can&#39;t appreciate that.

The Soccer Hooligans make it all worth it in the long run.

[4514]

Soccer requires skill. Sorry if you can&#39;t appreciate that.


yea like that worst acting skills ever.
why do they grab their faces screaming like panzies when it was obvious that got hit in the leg?
i also like the skill of the fake dive.
soccer is for bollywood rejects at best.
bollywood.ha.

i love the all blacks.
we kick anas up all day and nite sweet suzy.
:lol: :lol: :lol: aussie lost to wales :lol: :lol: :lol:
i could almost pity them but they arent even worthy of that. :lol:

and fucken wales&#33; they think their the all blacks with their fucken black uniform&#33;
go back to red and white you funny talking people. :lol:

aussie lost to wales.
classic.
























lost to wales.












:D
peace out you socceroos bring the cup home.
4514

[pedro san pedro]

rugby aside for moment - i have made my triumphant return to new zealand, and find myself in auckland as of two days ago. i&#39;m still a little jet lagged and my partner and i have less than &#036;250 left between us, so i wont be doing much for a while, but send me a pm if you&#39;re in the area.

i had a job interview this morning - should that come thru we&#39;ll be staying here for a long whiles, should it not, i do not know. as i said, my body is, despite all evidence to the contary, under the distinct impression that it is currently about 5am, so i&#39;m not overly confident that the interview went well. fingers crossed.

now back to the rugby....



lost to wales :P :lol: :P

[Xiao Banfa]

I&#39;m sorry to those fellow Australasians that tried to communicate with me I haven&#39;t been on this site for a while.
New Zealand are the best rugby team in the world.
Australians aren&#39;t pricks, they&#39;re just crazy.
This one Aussie dude stuck his finger up his arse and tried to wipe it on me, us Kiwis are way too self conscious for that.

However we do fuck animals- yes it&#39;s true&#33; Especially in the Waikato&#33;

[4514]

oh the animals are great.
i could go a sheep right now.
or helen clark.
sweet.
4514

[Xiao Banfa]

I think it was the renowned social commentator Mike King (who is scarily into pork)
who said when we reach 13 the government gives us a sheep "..and we fuck the arsehole out of that thing".

I can personally verify this.

[Rockfan]

Look out for that Romainian team guys, shit man, you lost to Wales. I think you need a few more Poly&#39;s aye.
Bro I would take a sheep over Helen any day&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
Well don&#39;t worry theres another Aussie team to get wasted in the Super 14 now so Impredicting these teams in the semi-finals:
Chrusaders
Highlanders
Hurricanes
Cheifs

Fuck Auckland Hahaha.

[4514]

:lol: :lol: yea bro fuck those j.a.f.a&#39;s aye,
dont knock helen till you tried it,
she puts a whole new meaning to 100% woolen panties.oh yea. :wub:
4514

[apathy maybe]

Kill any and all police witnesses.

[apathy maybe]

Edit.

[4514]

good luck chris bro,
im there in spirit&#33;
make sure if you can get down there that you do&#33;
x4514x

Hurricanes rule the super 14 fuck all you other ****s, speacially you jafas&#33;

[chebol]

This is probably a bit late, but re Wales...

{sung with mining-valley gusto, and a lot of New South Welsh hubris...)
"Sospan fach, yn berwi ar y tan,
Sospan vawr, yn beri ar y llawr,
A&#39;r gath wedi sgrabo Johnny Fach&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;"

Shit about the charges mate. Good luck.

[apathy maybe]

Edit.

[Black Dagger]

He&#39;s squatting in pyrmont at the moment, he said he wouldnt be on much in the near future, probably not till he gets to melbourne in 10 days or so? But ye, he&#39;ll probably appear like 5 minutes after this post.

[apathy maybe]

For those who want an answer to those questions (and are in the CC) see http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=46785. Sie&#33;

[apathy maybe]

I propose that Australians in Melbourne or who are going to be in Melbourne meet next week after the 15th. Have a beer or something.

[bombeverything]

Hey I thought I should actually post here seeing that I live in Australia and all (Melbourne to be precise). Apathy Maybe, do you live in Melbourne? Or are you just here for the Stolenwealth Games stuff, etc? And yes why not, beer tastes nice.

[apathy maybe]

Edit.

[Nathe]

im from s/e melbourne suburbs... and will prob be here for a while...

[apathy maybe]

Edit.

[Palmares]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 11:17 AM
im from s/e melbourne suburbs... and will prob be here for a while...
Which suburb? What do you do with yourself? Involved in much activist stuff? Feel free to ask if you wanna be involved, though, even now I&#39;m trying to get hooked up with more activist networks, etc.

[apathy maybe]

Love you all.
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[apathy maybe]

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[Black Dagger]

To any people in Melbourne at the moment, join the Black GST mailing list for email updates. At the moment, the police are trying to evict the people who are living at Camp Sovereignty and to shut it down, please show your solidarity for Aboriginal people and come to rallys at the camp and help defend it, thanks&#33;

The website: http://blackgst.revolt.org/about.html

The camp is located @ Kings Domain Gardens, to the left of the King George sculpture (which can be found outside the main gates to the Myer Music Bowl, Melways 2F K9).

[rioters bloc]

apathy maybe, you back in tassie now?


cthenthar, you should come to the nda this wednesday. itll be shit but therell be drinkin afterwards and the herd will be playing. i know you like combat wombat better, and i tried my best to get them instead, but my attempts failed :(

[Black Dagger]

Lame, after the NDA in melbourne i have to go to the airport, no drinks, no herd :(

[rioters bloc]

sucks.

[apathy maybe]

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[Black Dagger]

Yup it&#39;s the NDA for to protest VSU/ASOL, was gonna organise for a queer bloc, but it kinda fizzled out. We&#39;ve got a double sided pamphlet to hand out that deals with the govts. attack on dissent and how it relates to queer students and students more generally, but no big official bloc like last year. Instead we&#39;ve organised a black bloc :ph34r:, i finally found myself a full-face &#39;bandit&#39;-style balaclava, very scary looking hehe.

[Palmares]

Michael, anti-ASOL is a tautology.

Dave and Oishee, a friend and myself are going to some Villawood meeting at UTS, you should come too.

Oh, one more thing Oishee, expect me to message you in a few minutes about the NDA.

[chebol]

Cops&#39; plan to bring in riot squad tomorrow is officially quashed by Supreme Court.

Now to see if they stick to it.....

I should see y&#39;all there (if I&#39;m not in court already- got assignments......Well, that, and I just like hanging out in Newtown Local Court- cool architecture).

[Black Dagger]

So the convergence is still on full as before? No changes to the plans?

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 07:59 PM
Michael, anti-ASOL is a tautology.

Dave and Oishee, a friend and myself are going to some Villawood meeting at UTS, you should come too.

Oh, one more thing Oishee, expect me to message you in a few minutes about the NDA.
you didn&#39;t message me at all punk :P

come&#33; 12pm front lawns of sydney uni or 12.30pm in front of uts tower. you know you wanna come to uts. sydney uni&#39;s too bourgie. uts is at least incredibly ugly :P you prolly won&#39;t see me because i&#39;ll be in cognito ;)



wow villawood was crazy monday night&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 11:17 PM
Cops&#39; plan to bring in riot squad tomorrow is officially quashed by Supreme Court.

Now to see if they stick to it.....

I should see y&#39;all there (if I&#39;m not in court already- got assignments......Well, that, and I just like hanging out in Newtown Local Court- cool architecture).
oi chebol - come say hi. i&#39;ll be wearing a mask. hopefully not too many others will be so it will be a simple game of trial and error ;)


ye, the supreme court shit - shit. i can&#39;t believe the cops made their intentions so explicit. they called the src up and basically said, &#39;if you have a sit-down in railway square we will do what it takes to push you off the road.. and then some of you will react and we&#39;ll arrest those who do.&#39;

i told my non-political friends and it scared the hell out of even them. ahhh it sucks but might help to radicalise em ;)

but now the sitdown has been moved to the front of uts. which is shit, but if we try to do it at railway square anyway then people will get arrested. which is fine if people wanna put themselves in that position, but the thing is that the two education officers who went to the supreme court yesterday will be arrested for contempt of court. so, for solidarity&#39;s sake, it&#39;s prolly best we do what the court says. as much as it pains me to say that.

[chebol]

24 arrests

[chebol]

Arrests made at Sydney students sit-in
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/arrest...4521384677.html (http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/arrests-made-at-sydney-students-sitin/2006/04/12/1144521384677.html)
April 12, 2006 - 4:07PM


Students who staged a sit-in at one of Sydney&#39;s busiest intersections as part of a national protest against the Federal Government&#39;s higher education policy have been arrested.

Several demonstrators were arrested after a group of about 50 students sat down in the middle of the intersection at Railway Square, near Central Station, and refused to move.

One female student fell to the ground and hit her head on the road during a scuffle with police.

A heavy police presence is surrounding the protest which numbers about 400 and has caused traffic chaos in the city.

Students from several Sydney universities gathered at the University of Technology Sydney at 1.15pm (AEDT) before beginning their protest march through the city.

The Sydney protest is part of a National Day of Action against voluntary student unionism and student poverty issues including Youth Allowance rates and GST on text books.

The new VSU laws mean that from July 1 compulsory student union fees will be banned.

They also want the Youth Allowance increased to at least the poverty line, a decrease in the age of independence to 18 and rent assistance eligibility for Austudy recipients. They are also calling for the abolition of GST on textbooks.

They won the right to demonstrate after the NSW Supreme Court yesterday rejected a police application to prevent the rally going ahead.

A NSW police spokesman later confirmed 24 protesters had been arrested at the scene.

They were being questioned at Surry Hills, Redfern and Newtown police stations.

At a rally at UTS, National Union of Students (NUS) NSW president Max Bryant labelled the heavy police presence "ridiculous".

"They&#39;ve pulled out about 300 police here, it&#39;s just insane," he said.

"I&#39;ve seen worse particularly at refugee [protests], but definitely for the young first-year students and the high school kids, it&#39;s intimidating."

But Mr Bryant said he was thrilled by today&#39;s turnout.

"This is just the beginning and it&#39;s very encouraging to see almost 500 people here today."

AAP

[Ian]

I was gonna go in to town for that but had no cash, sounds action packed.


What&#39;s everyone doing for mayday?

[rioters bloc]

chebol were you there?

i got taken by the cops again&#33;&#33;&#33;

but they let me go this time..


fucking hell crazy shit. i got some dope footage of cop violence but my memory cards playing up&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Ian]

I doubt the footage warrants the use of the word &#39;dope&#39;

[rioters bloc]

if it helps in nailing the cops, then fuck yeah its dope

[Ian]

Ian proposes a &#39;GET DRUNK ON MAYDAY&#39; gathering of sorts

[chebol]

May Day as in May 1? or on the day(s) of the rallies?

The Socialist Alliance in Sydney is having a toast to mayday on May 7 after the mayday rally. 2pm in the Gaelic Club.

I think May 1 is the date of the official May Day dinner, so if you wanna spend heaps of &#036;&#036;, and hang out with geriatics and union bureaucrats, feel free&#33;&#33;&#33;

The rally in Wollongong will be on the 6th, btw.

[Ian]

I might go to the toast thing if I can be bothered.

[rioters bloc]

oi chebol come to the leftie convergence

isnt may 1 gonna be the direct action day mmmhmmm?

[Nathe]

Originally posted by Cthenthar+Mar 20 2006, 06:09 AM--> (Cthenthar @ Mar 20 2006, 06:09 AM)
[email protected] 9 2006, 11:17 AM
im from s/e melbourne suburbs... and will prob be here for a while...
Which suburb? What do you do with yourself? Involved in much activist stuff? Feel free to ask if you wanna be involved, though, even now I&#39;m trying to get hooked up with more activist networks, etc. [/b]
yeah... i live in monash, and im not that active, mainly cause im always at school, or i cant find anything on the weekends.

i would like to be more active, though.

[armedpoet]

A short introduction...

I reside in Perth. Yay for me.

I do stuff.. Mostly music, media, drinking and activism.

Others who reside in Perth may be interested in www.blackdovecollective.org www.perth.indymedia.org

Btw hey to Chris and Michael. You filthy tassie scum. :D


Salam.

[Black Dagger]

Hmmm, i totally know who you are, the perth-ness and avatar gave it away :)

[armedpoet]

And I know who you are.

Your photo gave it away :)


How are the not so humble loins of sydney?


Edit: I thought I knew who you were, but now I&#39;m confused. What is probably a good thing. Anyway you are one of two people and the question remains relevant.

[Black Dagger]

Haha, i&#39;m not my photo :)

Finished my report back on the Black GST Stolenwealth Games campaign for the UTS student paper yesterday, n earlier in the week i was at the Left Convergence ting at USYD, did you get to see any of it before you left? I went to the non-violent direct action workshop which was a lot of fun. I&#39;m heading back to melbourne on sunday though, so i&#39;ll be away from these loins in no time :P

[armedpoet]

Ahhha&#33;

But I know who is your photo. :huh:

I didn&#39;t make it to much after Villawood. Just hung out at the squat and went to see V.

I&#39;ll be hopefully back over east in August for the overload poetry fest.


Add me to msn if you got it.

[rioters bloc]

lol armedpoet - i saw your thread on villawood photos and then your perth indymedia plug and it was too obvious ;)

know who i am? :D

sorry i didn&#39;t get to see you again - got ill :(

[armedpoet]

I know who you are :)

Yeah it sucks that you got sick, it would of been cool to get to hang out more.

You feeling better now?

It&#39;s good to know that there are radical activistas outside of the humble loins of Perth... It can get pretty lonely over here in the neo-con hub of Australia.

You should all come over here and help us kick out the jams :D

[Ian]

IAN IS HERE TO SPOIL THE SECRETS, RIOTERS BLOC IS OISHEE, BLACK DAGGER IS DAVE, BOTH FROM SYDNEY


oh my, I ruined the game.

Welcome anyway, there have been various lefties from perth popping their heads up from time to time, welcome etc...

[Black Dagger]

My name is not &#39;Dave&#39;, liar.

[Ian]

Not Dave as in happy?

[apathy maybe]

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[armedpoet]

Hey Michael.

How goes it? Does it go well?

I also hate cops and food that is so hot that you can&#39;t eat it and so you are left to sit around thinking about how much of an asshole the guy who invented hot food was.

[Black Dagger]

Not Dave as in happy?

No, Dave as in fuck you&#33; :D

[apathy maybe]

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[Palmares]

Sorry to the Ozzie people not in the CC, I put some crap about what I was doing there.

I&#39;m outta East Gippie at the mo, maybe looking for a house in Melb again. Or going to Tassie for a while. All depends...

Will keep ya upto date.

Good to see that you are about the site Ray. :)

Oh ,and Michael, yeah, I kinda realised it wasn&#39;t a tautology almost straight away, but couldn&#39;t be bothered fixing it. Tricked by thw whole anti-anti thing anyway.

[rioters bloc]

SOS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;



oiiii is anyone coming to the smash the state party OTHER than ian? <_<

[Black Dagger]

When it&#39;s on? I&#39;ll be back in syd on 15 June.

....



Is anyone going to Queer Collaborations? (i think it&#39;s on in between NUS and SOS)

By anyone, i mean RB :P

[armedpoet]

When and where is SOS this year?

To be honest I didn&#39;t really enjoy the actual conference much last year. That could have something to do with taking some seriously mind fuckn substances half way though and having a pseudo break down&#33; :D

Seriously though.. It would be better if it wasn&#39;t so focused on environmentalism, I&#39;m not enough of an active environmentalist to make it worth my while.

Btw we launched the black dove social centre on may day. It was fuckn sweet.

Chris, how did the hitching go?

[Black Dagger]

When and where is SOS this year?

Brisbane *yuck* :P


Seriously though.. It would be better if it wasn&#39;t so focused on environmentalism, I&#39;m not enough of an active environmentalist to make it worth my while.

Isn&#39;t that the whole focus of SOS though? Whatever the case, it&#39;ll be very hard to wrestle the focus away from enviro-stuff simply because of the people the event usually attracts.

[armedpoet]

Well it could be argued that social and environmental are inseparatable and therefore SOS should focus on social issues as well.

But yeah the general "hippie" crowd probably wouldn&#39;t dig that.

Bloody tree huggers&#33; :)

Anyway I don&#39;t think I&#39;ll go to Brisbane for it.. It is about time Perth hosted something. We haven&#39;t hosted a national conference since anarcon &#39;04 and before that it was SOS &#39;02.

[apathy maybe]

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[RevolucioN NoW]

Brisbane *yuck* tongue.gif

It indeed is.

I guess i&#39;ll be there for it, since i do live in Brisbane.

It kind of overlaps with Res Conf (i dont get back from Sydney till the 12th, it starts the 9th...i think)

Hopefully we&#39;ll get something on sustainability in Venezuela/Cuba.

[apathy maybe]

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[chebol]

Res conf is from July 8-10.

http://www.resistance.org.au/modules.php?n...showpage&pid=38 (http://www.resistance.org.au/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=38)

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by apathy [email protected] 3 2006, 06:56 PM
Isn&#39;t there a Queer conference around that time as well? I know there is an Education Conference a little bit before hand (that I may or may not go to).
queer collaborations is on from 3-7 july in sydney

ed con runs from 28-30 june, at monash uni in melbs

so ye around the same time :D

qc should be much fun

ima try to go to the nowsa conference too..

[Palmares]

Nowsa con?

[Black Dagger]

Isn&#39;t there a Queer conference around that time as well? .

Guess you didn&#39;t read my post on the last page :P

So RB, are you gonna go?

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by Cthenthar+May 5 2006, 08:53 PM--> (Cthenthar @ May 5 2006, 08:53 PM) Nowsa con? [/b]
yep. nowsa con.


BD
So RB, are you gonna go?

if i&#39;m around, i might, but i haven&#39;t registered

two of my friends are heavily involved in the organisation so i&#39;ll try and squeeze in :P

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2006, 06:29 PM
Anyway I don&#39;t think I&#39;ll go to Brisbane for it.. It is about time Perth hosted something. We haven&#39;t hosted a national conference since anarcon &#39;04 and before that it was SOS &#39;02.
qc was in perth last year, i think ed con was too.

yeah, i&#39;m pretty sure it was.

is anarcon on this year? :huh:

[Palmares]

RB, I meant, what is the nowsa con? :lol:

Both qc and ed con were in Perth last year, myself and Ray joined in the ed con&#39;s blockade of Brendan Nelson. What fun that was&#33;

I&#39;ve read up on anarcon and it seems there no set date for this year. I dunno if there is any planning going ahead either...

[rioters bloc]

LOL

sorry cthenthar :P

nowsa = national organisation of women students australia :)

[Mujer Libre]

I&#39;m going to be in Sydney when nowsa is on... at my uni. :P

Stoopy me.

RB, I know the organising collective (most of them) and they&#39;re very cool- they&#39;re planning to make it a lot more radical than last year, when it was apparently a huge letdown. I believe some women from my uni got called radical "zealots" by some wishy washy lib-fems at last years conference. :lol:

[Palmares]

SoS is the 9th til 16th of July, so it fits in with the rest, as in, no clash.

[apathy maybe]

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[rioters bloc]

oi oi AM, i was looking through moz&#39;s rts photos and found a nice one of you&#33;&#33;

and i was so happy&#33;&#33;

and then i found an ugly one of me and that dude who was stalking me :/

[apathy maybe]

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[rioters bloc]

all dressed up :)

oh he wasn&#39;t stalking me at the time

i&#39;d invited him to come along and then we started dating and then he told me he loved me and started obsessing over me and then i broke up with him and he kept sending me weird love poems and emails and messages. all in the space of 8 days.

[rioters bloc]

oh and i just found a shot of me from behind from the smash the state photos :) with ya basta&#33; on my tshirt and a palo scarf around my neck ;)

[apathy maybe]

Originally posted by rioters [email protected] 8 2006, 07:33 PM
all dressed up :)

oh he wasn&#39;t stalking me at the time

i&#39;d invited him to come along and then we started dating and then he told me he loved me and started obsessing over me and then i broke up with him and he kept sending me weird love poems and emails and messages. all in the space of 8 days.
Wow. Just wow. Mind you I&#39;ld probably do something stupid like that too :wub: :lol:

[apathy maybe]

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[armedpoet]

Both qc and ed con were in Perth last year, myself and Ray joined in the ed con&#39;s blockade of Brendan Nelson. What fun that was&#33;

Ah yeah I almost forgot&#33; I didn&#39;t go to either con but that was a damn good week.

I got to spit on Nelson&#33;


Autonarcon&#33; January 29th 2006 - City Farm - Perth WA - an
anarchist/autonomous activist gathering.

This was also found posted in December. Did anyone go?

I helped organise it.

It was pretty damn good - about 50 people, lots of discussions, food, music etc.

We had planned to do it every few months but we haven&#39;t got around to organising another one. We do have monthly activist picnics in Hyde Park though.

Also the few of us that organised it have been pretty busy with black dove and other activista stuff.

Perth is going off&#33; :)

[Palmares]

Originally posted by rioters [email protected] 8 2006, 07:42 PM
oh and i just found a shot of me from behind from the smash the state photos :) with ya basta&#33; on my tshirt and a palo scarf around my neck ;)
Wikid&#33; You made it&#33; next time you&#39;re on msn, tell me all about it. I saw a few pics and it looked really cool&#33;

I put my email on that anarcon list a while back, that&#39;s how I know what I already know. And I just missed out on that anarcho con in Perth too...

[apathy maybe]

What smash the state party?

[Palmares]

... come to our SMASH THE STATE PARTY&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

in sydney park, st peters, on the 7th of may 2006 at 1pm will be the first annual smash the state party. in the spirit of may day we will be erecting a NSW pinyata, and VICTORIA pinyata etc, and for a buck or two, you can take a swing at the state...

providing the tunes for the day will be VAE VICTUS, SAY CHEESE AND DIE&#33;. THE SUBVERTS, UNATTENDED BAGGAGE&#33;

do you believe that water is more precious than gold?
do you believe that aboriginal sovereignty is more important than a canadian mining company&#39;s profit margin?
the money raised willl go to the lake cowal campaign...

Link for pics (http://www.moz.net.nz/photo/2006/05/07-smash-the-state/)

I wish I went to Sydney for it...

[Palmares]

haha, saw you and Michael in a pic. Ya basta RB&#33;

[apathy maybe]

Seems ... interesting...

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 07:28 PM
haha, saw you and Michael in a pic. Ya basta RB&#33;
hehehe yeah :D

i&#39;ll show you my pics soon. too lazy. there&#39;s a b&w one of me up in the cc

[rioters bloc]

oh dope. looks like i&#39;m going to nowsa con :D with another 4 or 5 cool womyn. excitement.

[apathy maybe]

Boo! Edit.

[pedro san pedro]

thought the sydney crew might be interested.....

Community Protest and the Law

In June 2006, the Environmental Defender&#39;s Office (NSW) will be presenting a series of community workshops on protest and the law.

The workshops will be held in Sydney , Wollongong and Newcastle from 6.00pm-7.30pm on the following dates:

* Sydney, 14 June
* Wollongong, 15 June
* Newcastle, 20 June.

The workshops are free , and open to anyone interested in learning about their legal rights to protest and how to make informed decisions about participating in protest actions.
Topics for discussion include:

* Protest planning.
* Common criminal charges.
* Police powers and responsibilities.
* Arrest, detention and bail.
* Getting legal advice and preparing for court.
* Civil liability for defamation and interfering with business activities.


Learn about:

* Terrorism laws.
* Post-Cronulla &#39;lock-down areas&#39;.
* Protecting yourself against Gunns 20-style litigation.
* Protest in special areas, like State Forests and Commonwealth land.


To register, or for more information, please contact:
Tisha Dejamanee, EDO Education Assistant, on 02 9262 6989 or email [email protected]

[apathy maybe]

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[Palmares]

Hows Perth pedro? You should check out the Black Dove Collective while you&#39;re there.

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by apathy [email protected] 7 2006, 06:52 AM
To give away&#33;
One mobile phone SIM card. Has over &#036;40 of credit + free minutes. Virgin is the company.

I won&#39;t be using it, don&#39;t want the credit to expire, so want to give it to some cool Australian. PM me for more details or to lay claim to it. Conditions apply. Prettiest applicant might get it.
Smash the state.

ALSO&#33; I got a letter in the mail today asking me why I didn&#39;t vote in the last State election. Took them long enough (election was in March). My reason? Fuck the state&#33;
Maybe next time vote but write something on the paper in big red letters.

[apathy maybe]

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[pedro san pedro]

perths good fun, but i&#39;m fucking sick at the moment. met a few of the black dove folk a few weeks back at a weekend long skillshare down south.... they seem like good people.
spent the night drinking around a fire with them and missed the next dya of the skillshare :)

[apathy maybe]

Once more into the breach dear friends ...
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[rioters bloc]

gluck am ;)

i got an exam this friday and one the friday after ... :(

[Monty Cantsin]

Hey i&#39;m in sydney at the moment, state library to be particular. anyways this is a call out to any comrades who&#39;ve got actions going because i&#39;m bored. Really there was no planing in this trip, i just jumped onto the train and i&#39;m crashing at this flat in balmain.

i&#39;ve also got this mate with me so if you&#39;d like to abuse him and have yourself a sex toy thats cool too.

so PM me or somthing if there&#39;s anything interesting going on....

[rioters bloc]

how long you staying?

i got an exam tomo otherwise id come hang

ummm nuffin much interesting i think, there was an action at hyde park today. mutiny zine should be coming out today or tomo but not sure.

thats about it :(

[apathy maybe]

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[apathy maybe]

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[Monty Cantsin]

Originally posted by rioters [email protected] 15 2006, 02:42 AM
how long you staying?

i got an exam tomo otherwise id come hang

ummm nuffin much interesting i think, there was an action at hyde park today. mutiny zine should be coming out today or tomo but not sure.

thats about it :(
ok, well we&#39;re staying till sunday. So i&#39;ll PM you a moblie number to contact me by.

I&#39;m glad you replyed though, cos i didnt know if we were cool after our difference of opinion.

Anyway maybe we can go out tonight or tomorrow night and you can buy me a drink in the name of gender equality, it would be in no way an exchange for me talking to you though. because you know, where not capitalistic at revleft.

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oh good news to declear to the world, i got me uni acceptance letter yesterday.

[Rollo]

I&#39;m on the Gold Coast.

[rioters bloc]

Originally posted by Monty [email protected] 16 2006, 01:54 PM
ok, well we&#39;re staying till sunday. So i&#39;ll PM you a moblie number to contact me by.

I&#39;m glad you replyed though, cos i didnt know if we were cool after our difference of opinion.

Anyway maybe we can go out tonight or tomorrow night and you can buy me a drink in the name of gender equality, it would be in no way an exchange for me talking to you though. because you know, where not capitalistic at revleft.

mutiny zine came out&#33;

argh sorry dude.. going out to dinner with fam for my bro&#39;s bday tomorrow :/

and ye, well i differ in opinion with lots of people lots of the time :P its all good :)

don&#39;t think i&#39;ll be able to see you before you go but if i go up to newcastle during the hols ill let you know fo sho ;)

[kaaos_af]

The mods should copy the *************** thing :D and have RevLeft Australia RevLeft UK RevLeft Europe etc. That would be useful.

[apathy maybe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2006, 04:20 PM
I&#39;m on the Gold Coast.
So what do you do with your time? Student? Bum? Working class hero? I&#39;m going to guess you&#39;re a student. And that you&#39;re in High School. I could be wrong.


kaaos_af: Nar fuck off. We do not want to copy Stormfront. Besides, we like talking to people from around the place.

[apathy maybe]

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[rioters bloc]

bummer am :( silly voting officials.

good luck in your exam&#33; my next/last one is on friday :(