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t_wolves_fan
9th June 2005, 04:24
extremists on both sides are incredibly dense.

You're all fairly ignorant of history, you all rely on logical fallacies (straw man and slippery slope being your favorite), you're all arrogant or naive enough to assume you have a license to the truth on everything, and you're all convinced that even slight disagreement on any topic means someone is dangerous and needs to be lobotomized.

Damn political arguing on the net for being so addictive!

Elect Marx
9th June 2005, 05:05
Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 09:24 PM
extremists on both sides are incredibly dense.

You're all fairly ignorant of history, you all rely on logical fallacies (straw man and slippery slope being your favorite), you're all arrogant or naive enough to assume you have a license to the truth on everything, and you're all convinced that even slight disagreement on any topic means someone is dangerous and needs to be lobotomized.

Damn political arguing on the net for being so addictive!
Extremism is a relative term; in this case, a term you use to label people YOU particularly don't agree with (then you manufacture ideology) and indeed use the straw man you are so fond of.

You make my point so well by setting up the straw figure before anyone even posts here, with commentary on the behavior of whoever...

You then make the assertion with an air of absolute truth that others are arrogant and "have a license to the truth." :lol:

Eastside Revolt
9th June 2005, 06:52
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 03:24 AM
extremists on both sides are incredibly dense.

You're all fairly ignorant of history, you all rely on logical fallacies (straw man and slippery slope being your favorite), you're all arrogant or naive enough to assume you have a license to the truth on everything, and you're all convinced that even slight disagreement on any topic means someone is dangerous and needs to be lobotomized.
Yeah but you see the difference is we're right! :P

Clarksist
9th June 2005, 07:19
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 03:24 AM
extremists on both sides are incredibly dense.

You're all fairly ignorant of history, you all rely on logical fallacies (straw man and slippery slope being your favorite), you're all arrogant or naive enough to assume you have a license to the truth on everything, and you're all convinced that even slight disagreement on any topic means someone is dangerous and needs to be lobotomized.

Damn political arguing on the net for being so addictive!
Wait, your saying we act as if we have "a licence to the truth on everything" but your the one saying that we're all ignorant of history? How could you possibly know that?

And saying that we all rely on logical fallacies is also very bold. Seeing as there are several thousand members on this board.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble of superiority, but saying that every single last one of "us" (I will assume you mean the Anarchists, Communists, Marxists, and Socialists) are naive, convinced that even the slight disagreement on any topic means someone is dangerous and needs to be lobotomized, and are ignorant is a pretty fucking bold statement.

Sounds pretty straw man like to me, as 313C7 iVi4RX pointed out.

I don't get that you claim to know all extremists on either side. And say that we are all incredibly dense. That is saying we are either stupid, refuse to budge on our positions, or are just plain slow. Yet I know many intellectuals that are Leftists, and whom have had a slowly evolving ideology (Bookchin comes to mind).

So how does making broad generalizations not make you naive?

Non-Sectarian Bastard!
9th June 2005, 08:22
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 04:24 AM
extremists on both sides are incredibly dense.

You're all fairly ignorant of history, you all rely on logical fallacies (straw man and slippery slope being your favorite), you're all arrogant or naive enough to assume you have a license to the truth on everything, and you're all convinced that even slight disagreement on any topic means someone is dangerous and needs to be lobotomized.

Damn political arguing on the net for being so addictive!
lol - basicly you are saying the further you are from my opinion, the less sense it makes to me. Duh! That you need to start an entire thread for this. It competes with the "wha'd you think of this commes ..." serie threads as most useless and stupid.

redstar2000
9th June 2005, 14:15
Originally posted by t_wolves_fan
I am arguing with the folks at PW...

My goodness, what about? :lol:

http://www.websmileys.com/sm/cool/123.gif

Andy Bowden
9th June 2005, 15:32
Excuse my ignorance but what is "PW"?

Black Dagger
9th June 2005, 15:40
Protest Warrior

Matthew The Great
9th June 2005, 15:57
This man's mind is great and powerful that he quotes himself in his own signature! I am amazed.

At least you have good taste in movies. (Office Space)

Publius
9th June 2005, 16:45
Very true t wovles.

JudeObscure84
9th June 2005, 18:37
Well just who are you on PW, T Wolves?

Publius
9th June 2005, 19:35
He has the same name.

I go by ENeGMA.

And if you point out I spelled it incorrectly, you automatically fail at life.

JudeObscure84
9th June 2005, 19:37
Woah, you're engema, Publius?

Publius
9th June 2005, 19:38
Woah, you're engema, Publius?

That be me.

I have a rather different persona there though.

Clarksist
11th June 2005, 05:13
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 06:38 PM

Woah, you're engema, Publius?

That be me.

I have a rather different persona there though.
Wait so you don't just act like yourself. Are you putting on a charade?

I ask, why?

Publius
11th June 2005, 14:25
Wait so you don't just act like yourself. Are you putting on a charade?

I ask, why?

A charade? No, this is a part of me, just the stuffy intellectual part.

At PW I showcase the smartass intellectual part.

kidicarus20
17th June 2005, 12:49
He pretends to be a liberal half the time on PW - whatever will help his argument, as he doesn't have the facts to back up what he says.

Protest-Warriors are the biggest bunch of idiots you'll ever meet. Go there, you'll see. Most of the time they don't argue about politics. They'll talk about movies and stuff like that, especially sports. "Post-whoring" is rampant there too, where they'll just say whatever stupid thing is on there mind. One Republican made a post about how he likes to tortue animals and talked about how he killed a possum with graphic detail. And then things to "get back" at "leftists" like going to other people's message boards and spamming it then complaining when they get banned, or what a certain hippy looks like, and so on.

When people make serious remarks, mainly leftists, they'll just reply with pictures from Ebaulm's world. They barely scratch the surface of political thought, mostly it's just Rush Limbaugh style conversations between themselves, nothing deep goes on there.

There has to be better right-wing sites.

Publius
17th June 2005, 14:20
He pretends to be a liberal half the time on PW - whatever will help his argument, as he doesn't have the facts to back up what he says.

Protest-Warriors are the biggest bunch of idiots you'll ever meet. Go there, you'll see. Most of the time they don't argue about politics. They'll talk about movies and stuff like that, especially sports. "Post-whoring" is rampant there too, where they'll just say whatever stupid thing is on there mind. One Republican made a post about how he likes to tortue animals and talked about how he killed a possum with graphic detail. And then things to "get back" at "leftists" like going to other people's message boards and spamming it then complaining when they get banned, or what a certain hippy looks like, and so on.

When people make serious remarks, mainly leftists, they'll just reply with pictures from Ebaulm's world. They barely scratch the surface of political thought, mostly it's just Rush Limbaugh style conversations between themselves, nothing deep goes on there.

There has to be better right-wing sites.

Yes, we talk about Entertainment in the Entertainment forum.

And I agree with you for the most part. There are some very good posters there, a lot of them, but the sure volume of morons, both left and right wing, makes the place suck.

There are good debates there, but it's buried under the crap.

The only reason this forum is 'better' is because it censors and bans anyone who doesn't fit with it's caste.