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[SocialismIsCentrist]

Hello, I am new.

My name is Steve, I'm from the UK.

I enjoy discussiong things on the net. without exception until now, i've only posted on forums dominated by the right. In registering in a site like this, I'm sort of hoping to contribute in a small to leftist ideas as well as gain inspiration as I spread leftist notions in other forums.

I believe discussion is worthwhile and powerful since only 5 degrees of separation separate mankind. say the right thing in the right place - and the world will turn left back into to centre ground. (I of course consider socialism to be the true center ground, the true balance point)

so, thats me, hello.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

He welcome.


only 5 degrees of separation separate mankind.

degrees of what? You mean generations?

[SocialismIsCentrist]

networks of contacts.

each person as a many-to-many relationship to others. about 5 or maybe 6 will link one person to any other in the world.

She's a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend. This idea means assuming it is true - and i think it is, that a good idea spoken in the right places, in the right way at the right time can spread to all.

I'm sure many of us here have at some point in our lives created a little term or phrase that for a while at least, we found others, perhaps on the radio replicating?

[Fidelbrand]

hi Stevie.

[Che1990]

Greetings comrade. I am also from the UK. Maybe we can discuss the arsehole we call Tony Blair sometime. Anyhows, welcome. Post lots and prosper.

[SocialismIsCentrist]

ah, a fellow briton.

Tony Blair will hopefully be on the way out as well as Mr Brown - who recently does speeches using terms like Dynamism and Competetiveness -with regards to his idealised direction for the european economy - such terms are codewords for rightist, or Ultra-Capitalism.

The most imediate and obvious next step for britains progressives is to implement and campaign for STV or something other that FPTP. this makes most strategic sense for the left in britain because the rightist vote is a single bloc vote - but the progressives are split between labour and libdems. this results in british, in particular, english polticts being dragged down to the right.

[lennonist-leninist]

well a humble welocome hope you enjoy it here.

[Che1990]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 01:54 AM
Tony Blair will hopefully be on the way out as well as Mr Brown.
I hope you're right! Blair will go after the G8 summit I think.

[bunk]

Brown is old-school labour, a bit better than Blair. He's very clever and i'd probabaly prefer him to lib dem or conservatives

:blink:

[Che1990]

Brown is more left-wing I think. He will definately be better than lib dem and tories!

[Sir Aunty Christ]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2005, 04:22 PM
Brown is more left-wing I think. He will definately be better than lib dem and tories!
I'd defintely rather have him than Blair and he is more left-wing, but only in that he comes from socialism whereas Blair fell into it. His work at trying to get a deal for Africa is commendable but he has to take some of the blame for New Labour.

[bunk]

I wish New Labour never happened. If Thatcher had been killed by the bomb in Brighton then Labour would have got in and New Labour would never have been formed.

[SocialismIsCentrist]

sadly new labour was a necessary evil.

In britain, in our first past the post system, the progressive vote is split wereas the rightist vote is solid.

this massively benefits the conservative party. Labour had to respond by shifting rightwards otherwise we would have had 40 years or more of conservative rule. Now the problem is, they are shying away from vote reform - this is because of party political politics - mps in safe seats dont want to loose their jobs. its sad.

[Sir Aunty Christ]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2005, 06:38 PM
sadly new labour was a necessary evil.

In britain, in our first past the post system, the progressive vote is split wereas the rightist vote is solid.

this massively benefits the conservative party. Labour had to respond by shifting rightwards otherwise we would have had 40 years or more of conservative rule. Now the problem is, they are shying away from vote reform - this is because of party political politics - mps in safe seats dont want to loose their jobs. its sad.
I think it has less to do with the progressive vote being split than that Thatcher in Britain and Reagan in the U.S. shifted the goalposts. Before them there had been a consensus (in Britain at any rate) that a form of social democracy, exemplified by the welfare state, was the accepted system. But Thatcher had this vision of a market economy and American-style individualism. It’s because the neo-Liberal policies of Thatcher and Reagan were so successful that the Democratic Party moved to the right under Clinton just as the SDP in Germany and the Labour Party have also moved to the right.

Blair has also stated that he admires Thatcher's economic policies.

[workersunity]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 12:46 PM
Greetings comrade. I am also from the UK. Maybe we can discuss the arsehole we call Tony Blair sometime. Anyhows, welcome. Post lots and prosper.
you narc, taking my greetings



Welcome comrade, post much and prosper