Who Should I Boycott [Archive]

Forward Union

4th June 2005, 21:50

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 08:46 PM
At the moment I boycott Nestle, McDonald's and Coca-Cola mainly (I try to Boycott Windows but it's very hard when you're 15 and it's what your parents use). What other brands should I be boycotting and why?
hmm that's a good question, and you're already pretty much boycotting the worst offenders!

but to answer your question checkout the boycott top five! at:

http://www.urban75.com/Action/boycott.html

some others that I personally Boycott are Pepsi, Burger King, Pizza Hut and other fast foods, for similar reasons to their clones.

Che1990

4th June 2005, 21:52

Oh yeah sorry I missed Nike off my list. I boycott them aswell.

Forward Union

4th June 2005, 21:53

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 08:52 PM
Oh yeah sorry I missed Nike off my list. I boycott them aswell.
yea me to, but don't forget addidas, Gap and other sweatshop brands are guilty of the same crimes.

Che1990

4th June 2005, 21:55

And Gap.

Che1990

4th June 2005, 21:56

Yeah I don't buy from any sports shops. The gym I used to go to had a sports shop that was actually called 'Sweatshop'. Well at least they can admit it anyway! :P

Che1990

4th June 2005, 21:58

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 08:55 PM
And Gap.
Sorry I didn't see your post before I posted this.

Che1990

4th June 2005, 21:59

That was to Anarcho Rebel by the way.

El_Revolucionario

4th June 2005, 22:07

I can boycott all 5 of those, but Proctor & Gamble is pretty hard to boycott, because they own almost everything.

codyvo

4th June 2005, 22:43

Well, as some of you would know I am a major boycotter, I could find a reason for you to boycott almost all products, like I pretty much do, but for all practical reasons, I would only advise you to keep the ones you already boycott and become vegetarian, and get an electric car when you start driving. But, even power companies are evil, so electric cars aren't that much of an improvement, it all comes down to do you hate electric companies more or oil companies, I hate oil companies more, so stick with electric, which reminds me if you have any large amount of property, you can use solar and wind energy, but that's very difficult.

Red Heretic

4th June 2005, 22:55

as a general rule, boycotts don't achieve much. In addition, you're also slowing down what is inevitable. Capitalism leads inevitably to monopoly. Monopoly leads inevitably to revolution. So from a dialectical perspective, boycotts don't help.

I'm not saying we should go out and suppor these monsters, but boycotting it certainly not the right action against them. Think more direct action and siezing state power ;)

bed_of_nails

4th June 2005, 23:14

One person boycotting something isnt going to accomplish anything either.

Take that McDonalds, you dont get my $.99!

codyvo

4th June 2005, 23:19

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 09:55 PM
as a general rule, boycotts don't achieve much. In addition, you're also slowing down what is inevitable. Capitalism leads inevitably to monopoly. Monopoly leads inevitably to revolution. So from a dialectical perspective, boycotts don't help.

I'm not saying we should go out and suppor these monsters, but boycotting it certainly not the right action against them. Think more direct action and siezing state power ;)
Right, I'm all in favor of that, but that takes getting masses of people on your side and getting them armed and ready to fight and since this takes time, we could boycott while this develops. And I'd also like to know, how boycotts do not work, they are essantially strikes from an outside perspective.

coda

4th June 2005, 23:20

That top 5 is a good site!

I always think boycotts are good, even if they don't do too much. I personally live by boycotts, it may be a challenge at times to find alternate sources for things, but I know I'm not supporting the things I'm trying to destroy.

These are local actions for me, but are national/international corps --

G.E.(General Electric) slogan" We bring good things to Life." among other things -- they've dumped 2.3 million pounds of PCB's into the Hudson River which also empties into the Atlantic Ocean.

New slogan: "They don't bring good things to life --- they kill 'em". -- lots of wildlife, and people too.

I.B.M. (International Business Machines) Slogan - "I think, therefore IBM" --- Their IBM "clean" rooms where chips are made and processed is being connected to incidents of brain cancer and brain tumors. In the area I live, there were 3 IBM plants, and 400+ cases of brain cancer from people who had worked in the past in an IBM clean room. Of course, IBM is in denial--- and keeps on making chips under the same procedures because it's cost effective.

New Slogan: "You won't be thinking too much longer if you work at IBM"

OleMarxco

5th June 2005, 00:20

You know, there's a simple-answer for this thang....
Everything :D

Hegemonicretribution

5th June 2005, 04:19

I will post a link to the corporate blacklist that useed to be pinned if I can find it.

Firstly, to those that say boycotting just slows things down: bullshit, making things worse in order to piece a revolution together out of the fragments of society is a terrible idea, plus you will have put things further into place.

Secondly, to those that say boycotting achieves nothing: you have missed the point, although it does. OK Cola to name but one was released by a major brand (coca cola) to be drank by people that did not agree with major brands. If boycotts did not work why is there an anti-global market as it where. The companies are not stupid and cash in on this, you just have to look further past the brand, and look to individual factories if you want to take it that far. Also it is not the financial difference that (at least personally) is aimed for. The fact that you don't partake in something that almost all your peers do WILL be noticed. It will introduce many to the idea a movement exists, a lot more than preaching to them about communism (especially teenagers). Then when you are asked you can add a little preaching, as it is backed up by your actions, rather than saying "I hate coca cola" whilst you sit there drinking a large one with your big mac. I hate hypocrisy, don't we all? Indigo is along the right lines there.

Thirdly, to the issue of using electric cars: The vast majority of the electricity used to power this cleaner, more efficient vehicle comes from power plants burning fossil fuels. Good idea, and a good talking point, however pollution will not be dramatically cut by the use of these cars. Solar pannels and changing energy sources are excellent ideas.

Finally: It is good people are at least thinking about these things, and there is a minefield out thereif you boycott seriously. Experience and a lot of research is all you can do to avoid some of the main offenders, never mind many other minor offenders. You really have to decide which companies you personally object to. Some say that the fact you consume and partake in capitalism is the real sin, although I disagree. I say one step at a time, first of all you need people to show consumer awareness before ceasing to be consumers. Some companies are the worse than others and whilst I respect those that take it all the way and don't partake in everything, it is simply too daunting for many.

Hegemonicretribution

5th June 2005, 04:25

Codyvo, (and anyone else, only he mentioned this was an interest) if you would be interested in working with me on a new boycott list, with links and info on all mentioned, PM me or reply here. I don't know if you remember the last one headed by Mentalbunny? She started it when she was leading this forum, but it got left after a while. Myself and many more chipped in with their own ideas, and research and it started being built up. Eventually there was a red list for companies that were deemed good enough to actively support.

This time round I was thinking more clarity, better research and up to date links regarding all listed companies. As well as a FULLY comprehensive list of all subsiduaries. Feedback?

coda

5th June 2005, 04:47

What did happen to that list? It was pinned at the top of this forum?

I have a vast list of corporations and brand names to boycott from a book called "Shopping for a Better world" I'll have to find it. But it rates each company on a 5 or 6 point level-- manufacturing arms (Gerber Baby food) Labor codes, EEO, Enviro, don't remember the rest...

Che1990

5th June 2005, 11:15

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 11:20 PM
You know, there's a simple-answer for this thang....
Everything :D
If only it was possible! ill go and live in the Andes and eat moss and grass and drink from small rivers. :P

Hegemonicretribution

5th June 2005, 13:39

Originally posted by Che1990+Jun 5 2005, 10:15 AM--> (Che1990 @ Jun 5 2005, 10:15 AM)
[email protected] 4 2005, 11:20 PM
You know, there's a simple-answer for this thang....
Everything :D
If only it was possible! ill go and live in the Andes and eat moss and grass and drink from small rivers. :P [/b]
There ARE people that live like this, and it is possible. Every few months I go for a between 4days to a month or so survival training, take a knife and the clothes you are in, a poncho if I am out for a while, and survive off the land. Rabbits and local vegetation, as well as fish can keep you reasonably well fed, and you do learn a lot about yourself. Don't go alone for your first few runs though.

C_Rasmussen

5th June 2005, 15:14

Now you say you want to boycott pretty much everything huh? well what then what fucking internet are you using? I can probably guess that its from a big corporation. If you want to boycott it so bad then talk to your parents about it with the logic that you are giving us and have it pulled. Geez do something about it if you hate it that bad.

Hegemonicretribution

6th June 2005, 02:36

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 02:14 PM
Now you say you want to boycott pretty much everything huh? well what then what fucking internet are you using? I can probably guess that its from a big corporation. If you want to boycott it so bad then talk to your parents about it with the logic that you are giving us and have it pulled. Geez do something about it if you hate it that bad.
Out of interest who was that post directed at? I was also wondering why you seemed so negative about boycotting anyway? You seem to point out the fact that people are slightly hypocritical for boycotting somethings and not others, yet surely the true hypocrisy lies in being "left wing" and not doing, or at least thinking about how you can do something.

The question I want to ask is: if you don't hate it (the big capitalist coporation, be it windows or one of the other bad offenders) "so bad" then why are you first of all on a left wing website, and second of all not restricted?

farleft

6th June 2005, 10:43

nike
coca cola
mcdonalds
starbucks
AOL

Try to get your parents to switch to Linux

C_Rasmussen

7th June 2005, 05:55

Originally posted by Hegemonicretribution+Jun 6 2005, 01:36 AM--> (Hegemonicretribution @ Jun 6 2005, 01:36 AM)
[email protected] 5 2005, 02:14 PM
Now you say you want to boycott pretty much everything huh? well what then what fucking internet are you using? I can probably guess that its from a big corporation. If you want to boycott it so bad then talk to your parents about it with the logic that you are giving us and have it pulled. Geez do something about it if you hate it that bad.
Out of interest who was that post directed at? I was also wondering why you seemed so negative about boycotting anyway? You seem to point out the fact that people are slightly hypocritical for boycotting somethings and not others, yet surely the true hypocrisy lies in being "left wing" and not doing, or at least thinking about how you can do something.

The question I want to ask is: if you don't hate it (the big capitalist coporation, be it windows or one of the other bad offenders) "so bad" then why are you first of all on a left wing website, and second of all not restricted? [/b]
Just because I maybe on the left side of the political wall doesn't mean that I share all the same views as all of you. Maybe I do support SOME big business. Its just that I don't support their ways.

Hegemonicretribution

8th June 2005, 03:34

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 04:55 AM
Just because I maybe on the left side of the political wall doesn't mean that I share all the same views as all of you. Maybe I do support SOME big business. Its just that I don't support their ways.
That I understand, I am different to many because I don't believe in a violent revolution at all. Although I am still "left."

It is, I suppose, big business I disagree with in some ways. However it is their means that is the main reason I choose to boycott. If McDonalds JUST sold shi food then fair enough, but it goes deeper. The (in some cases at least) attrocities committed by these companies go against the concept of any nearly any left wing/liberal society. It is only because we live in an authoritarian centralist/right wing society that they are more or less tollerated.I just can understand you viewing boycoting as pointless, but I don' know why you seemed aggravated and resentful towards some of the posts here.

I would also like to highligh the questions adressed to you in my last post which were not answered.

C_Rasmussen

8th June 2005, 05:29

Originally posted by Hegemonicretribution+Jun 8 2005, 02:34 AM--> (Hegemonicretribution @ Jun 8 2005, 02:34 AM)
[email protected] 7 2005, 04:55 AM
Just because I maybe on the left side of the political wall doesn't mean that I share all the same views as all of you. Maybe I do support SOME big business. Its just that I don't support their ways.
That I understand, I am different to many because I don't believe in a violent revolution at all. Although I am still "left."

It is, I suppose, big business I disagree with in some ways. However it is their means that is the main reason I choose to boycott. If McDonalds JUST sold shi food then fair enough, but it goes deeper. The (in some cases at least) attrocities committed by these companies go against the concept of any nearly any left wing/liberal society. It is only because we live in an authoritarian centralist/right wing society that they are more or less tollerated.I just can understand you viewing boycoting as pointless, but I don' know why you seemed aggravated and resentful towards some of the posts here.

I would also like to highligh the questions adressed to you in my last post which were not answered. [/b]
What are you on about in that first part? Are you trying to subtly insult me for my views?

Secondly, It may seem like I am resentful but thats just my way of expressing myself.

Palmares

8th June 2005, 06:05

Support locally made stuff. Pretty simple really.

Boycott conglomerates. The size isn't the determining factor. Its the concept of what they do.

But if you want a brand to support: No Sweat. They are the only non-sweat shop shoe company. I believe they also make other items too; I just have their shoes though. :P

Black Dagger

8th June 2005, 11:06

Support locally made stuff. Pretty simple really.

Nationalist any? :P

Hegemonicretribution

8th June 2005, 14:49

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 04:29 AM
What are you on about in that first part? Are you trying to subtly insult me for my views?

Secondly, It may seem like I am resentful but thats just my way of expressing myself. Like I said maybe you can agree MDs, I just couldn't see how. I know some people don't care, but I just have never talked to a leftist who aggressively argued with those that do. (I know that it is out of context now you explained that is your method of expression)
You said that t was your way of expressing yourself, that is fair enough but what did seem like a not so subtle insult, (was it aimed at me? As I don't have parents to pay for my net. Also I follow through what I believe in to the best of my ability.) was just rather annoying.

I wasn't trying to subtly insult you though. I was trying to avoid going down the route of arguing rather than discussing, and by putting strong feelings into mild mannered language, I can see how you thought I was trying to be a smartass. This wasn't my intention.

You said you don't support their ways, same as me. That is here and now, the big business is part of a bigger picture, but I am interested in the immediate. What are your views then on MDs and worker treatment/environmental issues?

h&s

8th June 2005, 14:53

Bad news for boycotters if you live in Britain. As part of a new parcel of laws on the books from the Queen's speech economic sabotage is to become a crime. That means anything that you do to lose a company money is to become illegal.
That means that something like putting up boycott McDonalds' posters is to become illegal, but, even more disgustingly, technically it includes strikes!
DOn't you just love it when the state increases its power? <_<

Hegemonicretribution

8th June 2005, 14:59

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 05:05 AM
Support locally made stuff. Pretty simple really.

Boycott conglomerates. The size isn't the determining factor. Its the concept of what they do.

But if you want a brand to support: No Sweat. They are the only non-sweat shop shoe company. I believe they also make other items too; I just have their shoes though. :P
This I totally agree with. There are plenty of fairly traded goods out there, I am lucky to have them readily available, making widerscale boycotts possible, but even switching tea, coffee, sugar and chocolate is achievable by most. No Sweat garments are good quality. There are also shirts, trousers, skirts, shorts...pretty much a full wardrobe and accessories available from Traidaft, to name but one of many. Get a free catalogue (UK only I am affraid) sent to your door by visiting The traidcraft site (http://www.traidcraft.co.uk).

Whilst there are lots a pretty nasty companies out there, here are a growing number of companies, with at least good intentions, and alternatives.

Hegemonicretribution

8th June 2005, 15:02

Originally posted by h&[email protected] 8 2005, 01:53 PM
Bad news for boycotters if you live in Britain. As part of a new parcel of laws on the books from the Queen's speech economic sabotage is to become a crime. That means anything that you do to lose a company money is to become illegal.
That means that something like putting up boycott McDonalds' posters is to become illegal, but, even more disgustingly, technically it includes strikes!
DOn't you just love it when the state increases its power? <_<
:o Are you serious? Can you get a link to the legal speak regarding this? Labour party my left bollock <_< .

Palmares

9th June 2005, 03:51

Originally posted by Black [email protected] 8 2005, 08:06 PM

Support locally made stuff. Pretty simple really.

Nationalist any? :P
Though this was a joke, it does have merit.

It is just easier this way due to knowing the direct line of its production, et cetera.

But with some of the fair trade companies around, it is possible, to some degree, to support non-conglomerate products from overseas.

Palmares

9th June 2005, 03:53

Originally posted by Hegemonicretribution+Jun 9 2005, 12:02 AM--> (Hegemonicretribution @ Jun 9 2005, 12:02 AM)
h&[email protected] 8 2005, 01:53 PM
Bad news for boycotters if you live in Britain. As part of a new parcel of laws on the books from the Queen's speech economic sabotage is to become a crime. That means anything that you do to lose a company money is to become illegal.
That means that something like putting up boycott McDonalds' posters is to become illegal, but, even more disgustingly, technically it includes strikes!
DOn't you just love it when the state increases its power? <_<
:o Are you serious? Can you get a link to the legal speak regarding this? Labour party my left bollock <_< . [/b]
Holy fuck. That is pretty nasty. Talk about corporate censorship and subjugation.

C_Rasmussen

9th June 2005, 06:38

Originally posted by Hegemonicretribution+Jun 8 2005, 01:49 PM--> (Hegemonicretribution @ Jun 8 2005, 01:49 PM)
[email protected] 8 2005, 04:29 AM
What are you on about in that first part? Are you trying to subtly insult me for my views?

Secondly, It may seem like I am resentful but thats just my way of expressing myself. Like I said maybe you can agree MDs, I just couldn't see how. I know some people don't care, but I just have never talked to a leftist who aggressively argued with those that do. (I know that it is out of context now you explained that is your method of expression)
You said that t was your way of expressing yourself, that is fair enough but what did seem like a not so subtle insult, (was it aimed at me? As I don't have parents to pay for my net. Also I follow through what I believe in to the best of my ability.) was just rather annoying.

I wasn't trying to subtly insult you though. I was trying to avoid going down the route of arguing rather than discussing, and by putting strong feelings into mild mannered language, I can see how you thought I was trying to be a smartass. This wasn't my intention.

You said you don't support their ways, same as me. That is here and now, the big business is part of a bigger picture, but I am interested in the immediate. What are your views then on MDs and worker treatment/environmental issues? [/b]
Hmmm I don't remember typing that second part after I mentioned that resentfulness is my way of expressing myself. I even looked at my response and it wasn't as long as that. I am not blaming you but I wonder who added that other stuff to it?

Forward Union

9th June 2005, 10:04

Originally posted by h&[email protected] 8 2005, 01:53 PM
Bad news for boycotters if you live in Britain. As part of a new parcel of laws on the books from the Queen's speech economic sabotage is to become a crime. That means anything that you do to lose a company money is to become illegal.
That means that something like putting up boycott McDonalds' posters is to become illegal, but, even more disgustingly, technically it includes strikes!
DOn't you just love it when the state increases its power? <_<
Where did you hear this??????????????

oh and also:

http://www.boycottisrael.co.uk/images/barcode.gif

ÑóẊîöŉ

9th June 2005, 10:55

Forget boycotts. They serve no purpose other than as a salve to the easily guilt-tripped minds of liberals. You might think you're a really progressive type and pat yourself on the back everytime you buy Fairtrade coffee, but in the real world pretty much everything you own is stained with the blood of the workers, due to the fact that we live in a capitalist society.

Here's a better idea: Avoid crap products. You shouldn't not go to McDonalds because they pay the workers fuck-all, if you want things like that to change you actually have to get involved and encourage the workers to demand better pay. No, you avoid McDonald's because the food is shite.

Cook your own food. Grow fresh vegetables in your garden if you have one. Sell your television and get yourself a Linux machine, this will save you money in many ways because it will cut down on the amount of advertisment you see and if you live in the UK you won't have to pay a TV licence.
Buy cheap, hard wearing clothes that will last you a long time - thrift and charity shops as well as army surplus stores (Proper ones, you know what I mean) can provide these.
There's lots of things you can do that don't involve openly parading how much of a good guy you are, as that's frankly suspicious in my opinion.

Palmares

9th June 2005, 11:00

That's pretty much what is involved with boycotts anyway: alternatives.

But you make a good point that people get to caught up the the brands/companies themselves. I rather think about it in regards to the concepts.

Forward Union

9th June 2005, 15:56

The workers of Coca Cola have begged the consumer to boycott coca cola, if you can't even listen to the workers cries for assistance, then how can you consider yourself a communist?

Most of the reason I boycott companies is due to the fact that they don't deserve my money. The product is often cheaply made or unhealthy, and was fabricated wit ha disregard for the human cost.

Of course, many ethical inequalities exist in all products, some are better than others. Something like 70% of the population in the UK boycott something, if this 70% were to surrender their principals and resume consumption, companies would get richer, and thus, more powerful.

If consumerism is kept down then a nation will face recession, a country in recession is a breeding ground for left wing support.

So resume boycotting, it won't do you any harm, even if it doesn't necessarily achieve anything.

ÑóẊîöŉ

9th June 2005, 16:05

The workers of Coca Cola have begged the consumer to boycott coca cola, if you can't even listen to the workers cries for assistance, then how can you consider yourself a communist?

Considering that coca-cola is a multimillion dollar enterprise and not everyone on the planet is a communist, I don't think we are hurting their sales.

Most of the reason I boycott companies is due to the fact that they don't deserve my money. The product is often cheaply made or unhealthy, and was fabricated wit ha disregard for the human cost.

"Don't buy crap products"

Of course, many ethical inequalities exist in all products, some are better than others. Something like 70% of the population in the UK boycott something, if this 70% were to surrender their principals and resume consumption, companies would get richer, and thus, more powerful.

70% is of course, a number that you have pulled straight from your arse. Don't play the statistics game with me.

If consumerism is kept down then a nation will face recession, a country in recession is a breeding ground for left wing support.

Not necessarily.

So resume boycotting, it won't do you any harm, even if it doesn't necessarily achieve anything.

Just another aimless activity to keep the liberals busy eh?

Forward Union

9th June 2005, 16:55

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 03:05 PM

Considering that coca-cola is a multimillion dollar enterprise and not everyone on the planet is a communist, I don't think we are hurting their sales.

Perhaps to most of us this is a moral issue rather than one of practicality. I wonder if you buy coca-cola?

"Don't buy crap products"

I think 'don't by cheap products' is a better code to follow. Cheap however, refers to many things, but I often find fair trade goods to be more enjoyable and of much better quality.

70% is of course, a number that you have pulled straight from your arse. Don't play the statistics game with me.

I believe I read that statistic from Bulb Magazine, which im sure is long since recycled...

Not necessarily.

A people living through recession are much easier to educate than those living it through the golden age of consumerism.

Just another aimless activity to keep the liberals busy eh?

On the contrary, to successfully boycott you don't actually have to do anything, thus it wouldn't keep you busy.

It seems to me your main problem with boycotting is that it doesn't do enough. I agree with this, although really I've never heard a good reason as for why I shouldn't boycott.

By suggesting that boycotting is wrong, you are attempting to entice me to buy, thus giving you the same moral substance as a McDonalds advert.

Hegemonicretribution

10th June 2005, 02:38

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 05:38 AM
Hmmm I don't remember typing that second part after I mentioned that resentfulness is my way of expressing myself. I even looked at my response and it wasn't as long as that. I am not blaming you but I wonder who added that other stuff to it?
Sorry that was my fault, must have pressed tab whilst typing, or maybe didn't notice. Too many late nights, after "expressing myself" it was me typing in the quote box.

I have been proved wrong though, there is more than one person who resents boycotts.

Noxion there is little to add that anarcho rebel hasn't, and also wasn't explained in a very similar couple of posts beween myself and C_Ramussen on the last page, but I will say one thing: I find it quite insulting that you think boycotts, and fair trade products are abused by liberals wanting to feel good about themselves. Are people who oppose capitalism and its evils in it just to feel good? Or can you take them a little more seriously? I do see to some extent where you are coming from, but doing something is better than doing nothing. I have advocated fair trade products and certain, personal level of boycoting for years. You know why? Because it works. So those people that I have got interested (I am talking more than 100s) may not of ran away to join freedom fighters, or even quit here jobs in protest to the hypocrisy of heir existence, but how many have?

I see it as one stage at a time. First of all open people's minds up to a problem existng outside of the fact they have to work, and petrol has gone up. Then let this develope. Setting the wheels in motion for a paradigm shift of the western world won't be easy. But I see this as a more effective method in the long run, than gathering supporters of "communism" straight off. Maybe I am wrong, (and I assume you ARE doing this other wise I question your integrity as a critic of people that are trying something) but I can guarantee you that personally, and in the cases of some of the people I have worked with, our actions are not to do with personal satisfaction, but a completely honest belief that we are attempting change how we see best.

Palmares

10th June 2005, 08:13

NoXion, this is about living an alternative lifestyle. Trying to living divorced from the system as much as possible. As AR said, it is very much a moral issue.

Doing nothing is downright complacency.

If we are to lead by example, we need to put it into practice.

Commie Rat

10th June 2005, 10:15

im a sellout, i wear Nike soccer boots :o
i play representative soccer and i need quality boots and the fact that i live in a small town mean that is all that is avaliabe

Forward Union

10th June 2005, 11:42

why not boycott life?

Hegemonicretribution

10th June 2005, 18:05

Originally posted by Commie [email protected] 10 2005, 09:15 AM
im a sellout, i wear Nike soccer boots :o
i play representative soccer and i need quality boots and the fact that i live in a small town mean that is all that is avaliabe
You were on the interne when you posted that, so pretty much any mak is available. I know what you mean though, but i is avoidable. Where I live musical equiptment is not always the finest and overpriced. I didn't want another fender, ibanez, gibson etc guitar so I ordered mine in. Save a fortune as well.

Guerrilla22

10th June 2005, 18:19

Boycott revolutionary left dot com

Rage

10th June 2005, 20:26

I boycotted Taco Bell for a few years for the Immokalee Workers who Taco Bell would not meat with to discuss there pay.

Here is the Websight (http://www.ciw-online.org/)

But they Won! I was so happy the day I heard that the boycott was over. My family Boycotts Exxon and I havent eaten at McDonalds in a while but I dont really boycott them just try to aviod them.

/,,/
Rock on!

El_Revolucionario

10th June 2005, 20:37

boycott the CC

Commie Rat

11th June 2005, 01:44

QUOTE (Commie Rat @ Jun 10 2005, 09:15 AM)
im a sellout, i wear Nike soccer boots
i play representative soccer and i need quality boots and the fact that i live in a small town mean that is all that is avaliabe

You were on the interne when you posted that, so pretty much any mak is available. I know what you mean though, but i is avoidable. Where I live musical equiptment is not always the finest and overpriced. I didn't want another fender, ibanez, gibson etc guitar so I ordered mine in. Save a fortune as well.

yes seeing i have a credit card when i am 13 ;)
my parents dont like buying things on the internet after one of our family friends had all her savings cleaned out by identity theft

Hegemonicretribution

11th June 2005, 18:00

Originally posted by Commie [email protected] 11 2005, 12:44 AM
yes seeing i have a credit card when i am 13 ;)
my parents dont like buying things on the internet after one of our family friends had all her savings cleaned out by identity theft
Fair enough, I was lucky, my parens were ineresed in similar ideas to me, and were always into organic and fairrade, as well as locally produced goods. I will say that everything becomes easier when you get your independence and earn a wage. When I first moved out I did all mos my shopping a the local healthfood shop.

Sorry to hear about the inernet fraud, thats a bummer. Also I appologise for the poor quality of writing in the last post, my keyboard is on it's last legs.