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El_Revolucionario
4th June 2005, 20:08
Two white policemen brutally taser an unarmed 22-year old African American woman.
I'm outraged! FUCKING PIGS!

Video here:

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/...er_video3a.html (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html)

bunk
4th June 2005, 20:12
1. She was driving an SUV, while this doesn not matter to the police, it makes me dislike her.

2. She was arrogant enough to not get out of her car. She had fair warning... serves her right.

slim
4th June 2005, 20:13
Our revenge on capitalism will come but remember that the pigs are just the drones of the elite. If they join us they survive, if not then they will share the fate of their masters.

El_Revolucionario
4th June 2005, 20:21
Originally posted by Josh of [email protected] 4 2005, 07:12 PM
1. She was driving an SUV, while this doesn not matter to the police, it makes me dislike her.

2. She was arrogant enough to not get out of her car. She had fair warning... serves her right.
How can you defend the cops in this? :angry:

resisting arrest with violence
4th June 2005, 20:35
This is a subject dear to my own heart. These merciless pigs should have been resisted in an active fashion not passively like if it's a game. If you have no technique for handling these sort of situations you might as well stay home.

For my own part I would have resisted the pig with my own bottle of mace. And then with my own night stick. And then with my military boots---soles of my boots on his face.

Clarksist
4th June 2005, 22:16
Suuuuuuuuure you would, Resisting Arrest With Violence.

Anyways, this doesn't surprise me. What surprises me is that the site hasn't been taken down.

codyvo
4th June 2005, 22:35
Yeah, although it is appauling, it doesn't surprise me. I'm from Florida, we deal with this stuff all the time, we recently had a 5 year old african-american girl hand cuffed and brought to jail because she was being bad at her school. We've also had an unarmed african-american boy shot 19 times when he didn't have a weapon and an african-american boy shot in the back while he was asleep, what a great state to live in.

bunk
4th June 2005, 23:55
Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 07:21 PM


How can you defend the cops in this? :angry:
Cause she was told to ge tout the car clearly and didn't. I''m not saying they should have shot her but they told her they would so she knew.

Elect Marx
5th June 2005, 00:25
Originally posted by Josh of [email protected] 4 2005, 01:12 PM
1. She was driving an SUV, while this doesn not matter to the police, it makes me dislike her.
So what? It is the precedent of what pigs can do to anyone.


2. She was arrogant enough to not get out of her car. She had fair warning... serves her right.

She was on the fucking phone reporting the scene, I would do so too if I could; do you fucking trust the cops?

Authoritarian fuckers what to use tasers kids and everyone else that they don't like...

RAWV - Your mace alone wont do a damn bit of good for defense (unless you are big on assault); you would need a taser yourself, unless you can split and the pig doesn't shot you. Your best bet to defend yourself would be something debilitating, like salt shot, but then you might be recorded.

As I see it, if you engage in conflict to defend yourself you have 3 possible actions:

1) Submit
2) Disable the pig
3) Run

I would prefer a combination of the last two but if you do something such as using mace, the pig still could kill you... you are always running a risk, where the pigs have "diplomatic" immunity. This is the issue of the courts where they generally have the upper hand; keep in touch with the ACLU ;)

FriedFrog
5th June 2005, 01:00
It was better than her being hit with a baton, which is probably the only other option. And you can't say he didn't warn her.
However, it was still un-neccessary force. I'm sure without the taser if the cop just kept asking she would have gotten out. Officially, he's dont nothing wrong, but still, it's not pleasant.

Oh, and the policeman was black.

El_Revolucionario
5th June 2005, 01:24
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 12:00 AM
It was better than her being hit with a baton, which is probably the only other option. And you can't say he didn't warn her.
However, it was still un-neccessary force. I'm sure without the taser if the cop just kept asking she would have gotten out. Officially, he's dont nothing wrong, but still, it's not pleasant.

Oh, and the policeman was black.
The policeman was not black. Both of the policemen were white, just because it has a picture of the guy in the upper hand corner does not mean it's the same guy. Actually read what it says. The video clearly shows two white men.

El_Revolucionario
5th June 2005, 01:29
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 12:00 AM
It was better than her being hit with a baton, which is probably the only other option. And you can't say he didn't warn her.
However, it was still un-neccessary force. I'm sure without the taser if the cop just kept asking she would have gotten out. Officially, he's dont nothing wrong, but still, it's not pleasant.

Oh, and the policeman was black.
Yes he has done something wrong, this was racially-motivated. If it was a white woman I doubt the cop would have tased her twice with 50,000 volts of electricity.

Eastside Revolt
5th June 2005, 02:17
Originally posted by Josh of [email protected] 4 2005, 07:12 PM
1. She was driving an SUV, while this doesn not matter to the police, it makes me dislike her.

2. She was arrogant enough to not get out of her car. She had fair warning... serves her right.
You are a disgusting pig.

Commie Girl
5th June 2005, 02:25
Originally posted by Josh of [email protected] 4 2005, 01:12 PM
1. She was driving an SUV, while this doesn not matter to the police, it makes me dislike her.

2. She was arrogant enough to not get out of her car. She had fair warning... serves her right.
:huh: What?

So she is stupid to drive an SUV.....isnt this what I have heard happens in the U$? A black woman driving an SUV....she didnt deserve what they did, she wasnt going to attack them with her cell phone.

bunk
5th June 2005, 09:37
She had fair and clear warning

refuse_resist
5th June 2005, 11:13
Absolutely disgusting. Nothing justifies the use of a taser on this unarmed woman. What's even more disturbing is how people in this thread are defending the cops use of the taser on her...

RedAnarchist
5th June 2005, 11:17
Whilst America puts on a facade of racial tolerance and equality, the truth is that America's police forces are still stuck in the 1950's. There is no justification for what tose pigs did - they should be punished with either being sacked and banned from having jobs in the police force or being charged with assault and hate crimes - of course, this wont have happened, this is America we are talking about.

Che1990
5th June 2005, 11:31
This is disgusting. They tell her to get out of the car and she actually says "Just wait till I've finished my conversation." and then they shoot her with the taser. It's outright racism. I can't tell you how angry I am right now, I just want to go out and kill a cop. Fuck I'm gonna go calm down.

bunk
5th June 2005, 11:33
You don't finish your phone call when you get pulled over by a cop. The arrogance, she had fair warning, she deserved it.

bolshevik butcher
5th June 2005, 12:59
While this is horrible behaviour, she should have got out of the car when told to.

FriedFrog
5th June 2005, 13:19
Originally posted by El_Revolucionario+Jun 5 2005, 12:24 AM--> (El_Revolucionario @ Jun 5 2005, 12:24 AM)
[email protected] 5 2005, 12:00 AM
It was better than her being hit with a baton, which is probably the only other option. And you can't say he didn't warn her.
However, it was still un-neccessary force. I'm sure without the taser if the cop just kept asking she would have gotten out. Officially, he's dont nothing wrong, but still, it's not pleasant.

Oh, and the policeman was black.
The policeman was not black. Both of the policemen were white, just because it has a picture of the guy in the upper hand corner does not mean it's the same guy. Actually read what it says. The video clearly shows two white men. [/b]
Oh yeah, sorry, my mistake. And there's no need for *****yness. I misread something, thats all. :)

And I agree with Clenched Fist, while this is deffinately NOT appropriate, but when you're pulled over by the police, you don't wait untill you've finished your conversation on your mobile. Especially with threats of being tasered

Freak
5th June 2005, 14:50
She was resisting arrest deliberately, trying to get the police to do something that she could sue them over. If they would have pulled her from the car, she would have sued over an injured neck and won the case. They really had no choice. Note also the camera filming this belonged to the cops, this is not like some "hidden camera" expose' of police brutality. The police in America can be ass holes, but hey, at least our army doesn't shoot deserters or people who steal food. I would like to know what the posters who objected to this would have done.

Sabocat
5th June 2005, 15:32
Josh of Heavens. Wow is all I can say.


You don't finish your phone call when you get pulled over by a cop. The arrogance, she had fair warning, she deserved it.

So for a routine traffic stop, you think tasering is a logical response to someone on a cell phone?

What do you suppose the chances are that a white woman driving this SUV would have been tasered?

Your servile attitude towards the pigs is alarming.

As for Freak perhaps you should read a little history before making such statements as:


but hey, at least our army doesn't shoot deserters or people who steal food

The Execution of Pvt. Eddie Slovik

By Zena Simmons / The Detroit News

On Jan. 31, 1945, Hamtramck-born Eddie Slovik was executed by firing a squad near the village of Ste-Marie aux Mines for the crime of desertion. Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower, supreme allied commander, personally ordered the execution during the closing days of World War II in order to deter other potential deserters.

During World War II, 21,049 American military personel were convicted of desertion, 49 were sentenced to death, but only Pvt. Slovik paid the ultimate price. In fact, he was the only American soldier to be executed for desertion since the American Civil War.

Read the rest (http://info.detnews.com/history/story/index.cfm?id=103&category=people)

The Navy also used to routinely beat/whip sailors in the 17 & 1800's (who were malnourished) for stealing food.

To suggest that this woman didn't get out of her car because she was deliberately trying to get injured for a law suit is insanity. Perhaps as a black woman down South, she is a bit apprehensive with regards to police conduct. Police forces in most major metropolitan areas have long been known to raciallly profile and be overtly racist.

bunk
5th June 2005, 15:33
She wouldn't get off the phone or get out of the car when she was told to.

El_Revolucionario
5th June 2005, 15:43
You have to understand this woman was pulled over for speeding, it is not normal that a police officer immediately asks you to step out of the car when you have just speeded. He asks you for your driver's license and registration. However, when the police officer approached the vehicle and saw the woman, he immediately told her to step out of the car.

Sabocat
5th June 2005, 15:48
You do realize that some people die from being tasered right?

If they had killed her by doing this, do you think that would be acceptable punishment because she "didn't do what they told her"? The death sentence by cop "judge, jury and executioner" is justifiable for a traffic infraction?

Florida leads the nation in deaths involving Tasers with 16, including four in the past two months. Besides the rash of deaths statewide, the use of the supposedly non-lethal weapons, which are intended to incapacitate fleeing or resisting suspects, is coming under increasing public criticism with the shocking of a 6-year-old boy, a 12-year-old girl and a wheelchair-bound man.

Link (http://www.inweekly.net/article.asp?artID=1018)

I guess they probably weren't doing what they were told either.

El_Revolucionario
5th June 2005, 15:53
I hate these racist pigs. Like I said above, his insistence she step out of the car was based on the color of her skin and that alone.

bunk
5th June 2005, 16:34
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 02:53 PM
I hate these racist pigs. Like I said above, his insistence she step out of the car was based on the color of her skin and that alone.
How do you know that? It's normal in England to make people get out of their car.

bolshevik butcher
5th June 2005, 17:01
Josh has a point, but in britain if you're black you are 6 times mroe likely to get searched than if you're white.

Gust
5th June 2005, 17:14
I suppose she didn't get out of the car when told, but jesus god people! Let's think here, was their any real need to tase the hell out of her? I submit not.

Police brutality is just more proof!!

NovelGentry
5th June 2005, 18:00
The police in America can be ass holes, but hey, at least our army doesn't shoot deserters or people who steal food.

Generally speaking if someone doesn't eat for a day in our army it's not the difference between life or death.

NovelGentry
5th June 2005, 18:09
There's a few things I find interesting. First off, for those saying she wasn't asked for license and registration, that is wrong. Watch the rest of the clips -- she is tased after the police officer looks into her information and finds out she's on a suspended license.

If you watch the other clips, however, you will notice something else too. For starters, it is an unmarked car, in this specific case, a mustang. For whatever reason, questioning the officer's authenticity, simply for the sake of identification, etc, the woman asks for the officers name, badge number, and car number. The officer fails to supply these things. Legally speaking, I don't think she has to exit the vehicle under such conditions, as he has yet to provide her with adequate information to prove he is a police officer.

Secondly, the woman was shocked twice -- not once, twice. The second one administered after she had fallen from the vehicle onto the ground, on what appears to be her stomach, at which time the officer could have easily cuffed her.

Just some things to think about and maybe a few facts to check up on.

CrazyModerate
5th June 2005, 18:26
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 10:17 AM
Whilst America puts on a facade of racial tolerance and equality, the truth is that America's police forces are still stuck in the 1950's. There is no justification for what tose pigs did - they should be punished with either being sacked and banned from having jobs in the police force or being charged with assault and hate crimes - of course, this wont have happened, this is America we are talking about.
It's more a personal thing than a general police thing. What about Black police? Are they racist? I'm not diagreeing with the fact that it was bad. It was terrible. But I don't think it is either a generally organized and ordered thing, nor do I think it is socially accepted by the majority of Americans.

Zingu
5th June 2005, 18:44
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 02:53 PM
I hate these racist pigs. Like I said above, his insistence she step out of the car was based on the color of her skin and that alone.
Uhmmm

Here we go again, its automatically rascist! Bad evil pigs! Brutality! Brutality!

I have no sympathy for either side of this.

1) Its ridiculous to call it a rascist action without any other backround information about those two cops other actions

2) The woman did something very idiotic, staying on your phone and talking about what the cops are doing, especially the way she did it I would think rather insulting and defiant

So, does this mean everytime someone gives trouble or improper conduct to the cops, that we get to denouce it as a rascist and brutal action?

I can understand shooting a kid, or beating up one or something of the sort. But when it comes to something like this, I've seen several videos of them useing tasers on defiant drivers that have been pulled over, even on white males, its probably something standard routine.

NovelGentry
5th June 2005, 18:51
So, does this mean everytime someone gives trouble or improper conduct to the cops, that we get to denouce it as a rascist and brutal action?

No, but we should very much support improper conduct towards cops.

I'm with you on the race thing... it's simply not something we can tell right off the bat. Although there can be obvious suspicion when truly thinking about whether or not they would have done it to a white person, it's impossible to say for sure.

However, it was a brutal action. Even if it is the legal and proper course of action according to the law, it is brutal, and that should be opposed.

Che1990
5th June 2005, 19:32
Originally posted by Josh of [email protected] 5 2005, 10:33 AM
You don't finish your phone call when you get pulled over by a cop. The arrogance, she had fair warning, she deserved it.
Yeah but they could have waited for her to get out before shooting her. She said she was about to.

workersunity
5th June 2005, 20:23
Originally posted by Josh of [email protected] 4 2005, 01:12 PM
1. She was driving an SUV, while this doesn not matter to the police, it makes me dislike her.

2. She was arrogant enough to not get out of her car. She had fair warning... serves her right.
for shame

Martin Blank
5th June 2005, 21:04
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 01:09 PM
There's a few things I find interesting. First off, for those saying she wasn't asked for license and registration, that is wrong. Watch the rest of the clips -- she is tased after the police officer looks into her information and finds out she's on a suspended license.

If you watch the other clips, however, you will notice something else too. For starters, it is an unmarked car, in this specific case, a mustang. For whatever reason, questioning the officer's authenticity, simply for the sake of identification, etc, the woman asks for the officers name, badge number, and car number. The officer fails to supply these things. Legally speaking, I don't think she has to exit the vehicle under such conditions, as he has yet to provide her with adequate information to prove he is a police officer.

Secondly, the woman was shocked twice -- not once, twice. The second one administered after she had fallen from the vehicle onto the ground, on what appears to be her stomach, at which time the officer could have easily cuffed her.

Just some things to think about and maybe a few facts to check up on.
I noticed these things too. But I noticed one more thing. As the pigs are lifting the woman up to put her in the car, one of them says something to the effect of "Next time, you'll know not to take a swing at us" -- an accusation she immediately denies. At no time did I see anything on that video that looks like the woman swung at the cop. The cop did not even take a step back to evade any kind of punch. It seems to me that this was said for the benefit of the video camera and the other cops who would see it ... and for the media and "public opinion". I smell a set up.

Miles

Martin Blank
5th June 2005, 22:03
Another thing I noticed when watching the videos is that there are times when the content of the audio does not correlate to the content in the video.

For example, in the video selection about the traffic stop (second selection at bottom), there is a point when the cop is talking to dispatch about the woman, and her voice is clearly audible, responding to what the cop is saying. However, the video shows that the woman is still in her vehicle and the cop is back by (or in) his. If we take the video at face value, the woman has such good hearing that she can hear his low-tone conversation with dispatch all the way in her vehicle.

Similarly, in the video selection of the aftermath of the incident (fourth selection at bottom), the cop is having a long conversation with dispatch while sitting in the car. What's missing from the audio? The moaning and crying woman who was tased less than a couple of minutes ago. You do not hear her once throughout the entire length of the video, even though the cop is repeating several of the cover lies he said earlier that she objected to. This can only be explained in one of four ways: 1) she accepted his story (highly unlikely), 2) she is incapacitated (possibly), 3) she is gagged (again, possibly), and 4) she is not present for the conversation (draw your own conclusions).

Miles

Holocaustpulp
5th June 2005, 22:46
The police state wont make concessions - they're the children of the feds.

- HP

NovelGentry
6th June 2005, 04:19
I noticed these things too. But I noticed one more thing. As the pigs are lifting the woman up to put her in the car, one of them says something to the effect of "Next time, you'll know not to take a swing at us" -- an accusation she immediately denies. At no time did I see anything on that video that looks like the woman swung at the cop. The cop did not even take a step back to evade any kind of punch. It seems to me that this was said for the benefit of the video camera and the other cops who would see it ... and for the media and "public opinion". I smell a set up.

Miles

While you have a point, another officer does enter in the passenger side it appears -- we cannot be sure if she took a swing in his direction as he was entering or attempting to coerce her out of the vehicle.

lennonist-leninist
6th June 2005, 05:22
even if she should have gotton out of the car dose that mean that the police had the right to brutally bet her with there nightsticks!

Inti
6th June 2005, 16:52
I dont really like the cops very much generally, but I dont see much wrongdoing in those clips, there werent many other ways that the cops couldve used that was as safe as the taser.. For all I know she couldve been a nutcase and started fighting if they hadnt used the taser.. She got like a zillion warnings and demands that she should go out of the car but still like a silly woman she is, she doesnt put down that phone. If a cop wouldve told me to get out of the vehicle while I was talking on a phone, I wouldve told the person on the other line that I would get back to that person afterwards and not telling the cops to wait... Either way I dont know about florida but where Im from we are not supposed to speak in those damn celulars whilst driving.
As the officer says in those commentaryies, it makes sense what the other officers did..

Comrade san
6th June 2005, 17:08
She had a fair warning they asked her over and over, using the taster twice was a bit out of hand.

NovelGentry
6th June 2005, 17:14
I dont really like the cops very much generally, but I dont see much wrongdoing in those clips, there werent many other ways that the cops couldve used that was as safe as the taser.. For all I know she couldve been a nutcase and started fighting if they hadnt used the taser.. She got like a zillion warnings and demands that she should go out of the car but still like a silly woman she is, she doesnt put down that phone. If a cop wouldve told me to get out of the vehicle while I was talking on a phone, I wouldve told the person on the other line that I would get back to that person afterwards and not telling the cops to wait... Either way I dont know about florida but where Im from we are not supposed to speak in those damn celulars whilst driving.
As the officer says in those commentaryies, it makes sense what the other officers did..

If a man dressed as a cop with a gun got out of a mustang and told me to get out of my car, I'd probably ask for his name, badge number, and car number, and then call the police office to ensure he was an officer.

resisting arrest with violence
6th June 2005, 17:27
Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2005, 09:16 PM
Suuuuuuuuure you would, Resisting Arrest With Violence.

Anyways, this doesn't surprise me. What surprises me is that the site hasn't been taken down.
I swear on my mother's cirrhotic and hepatatic C-infected liver that I would beat that swine's face to a fucking pulp.


NovelGentry is right about asking for a police's I.D. because that's the modus operandi of the Hillside Stranglers and Ted Bundy----pretending to be cops in order to commit ourages on women.