Carbonated Soda

[Jazzy]

I have noticed that several members on here have as part of their "signature" that says "free of carbonated soda since (insert date). I would like to know what that is about so please explain.

[RedStarOverChina]

I guess they feel they'd be contributing to corporations if they buy Coca-cola and that carbonated soda isnt healthy.

But they said may be right but there's gotta be some form of joy in life, even for communists!

I haven't had a can of coke for almost an hour, too.

[RedStarOverChina]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2005, 09:09 PM
I haven't had a can of coke for almost an hour, too.
Opps. Forget what I just said. Here goes another one.

[redstar2000]

In America, we are cursed with, among other things, a kind of secular neo-puritanical cult which regards pleasurable indulgences as a kind of "sin" and self-denial as a kind of "redemption".

Their basic hypothesis is that if you become ill, it's because you did drugs or didn't exercise enough or ate a poor diet or had too many sexual partners -- it's your own damn fault, SINNER!

Their righteous self-denial is paraded in their sigs as a sign of Moral Superiority -- and the rest of us are supposed to repent and follow them.

:lol:

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[KptnKrill]

how about, soda's not good for you, it's like diabetes and cavities in a can.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 02:48 AM
how about, soda's not good for you, it's like diabetes and cavities in a can.
Or how about if you do it in moderation you won't get diabetes and if you brush your teeth often you won't get cavities?

[RedStarOverChina]

Well considering that I drink 5-6 cans of coke everyday, u may argue that I'm not the healthiest person on earth. I'll give u that.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2005, 09:48 PM
how about, soda's not good for you, it's like diabetes and cavities in a can.
News Flash: Life is not good for you!

No matter what you do or don't do, you will get old and then you will get sick and then...you will die! :o

If you go the neo-puritanical route, you may live longer...wearing an adult diaper.

Or with a feeding tube rammed down your throat.

Or perhaps tied to a chair in a "nursing home", sitting in your own shit, and lost in your own incoherent babble.

Have a nice day. :)

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[bunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 03:02 AM
Well considering that I drink 5-6 cans of coke everyday, u may argue that I'm not the healthiest person on earth. I'll give u that.
well i heard each can takes a minute off your life so.....

[Che1990]

Jesus is that true? I heard each cigarette takes 5mins off your life. That's why I quit (that and the fact I was only 14 and I didn't know what I was getting into until shortly before my 15th birthday).

[4514]

i only drink water but its not becuz i have anything against coke\sprite\pepsi etc or people who drink it, im sXe and i enjoy life being sXe.
4514
rank and file

[slim]

the only things i drink are water, lucozade and beer.

I only recently realised that coca cola are destroying the rainforests so i might stop lucozade.

I also smoke a few cigars every now and then. Is that a bad thing? Who gets the profit?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I drink, smoke pot and eat crap, and that's probably taking more time off my life than the cans of fizzy drink I have sometimes.

[RedAnarchist]

RedStar, you think by comparing this boycott to some neo-puritanical cult that those members who are boycotting carbonated soda beverages will panic that they 'arent communist' and end it. I enjoy many pleasurable things in life - i dont need crap like alcohol, fizzy drinks or tobacco in order to make my life better.

Those who do use these things are not 'sinners' - it is their own personal choice. If they decide to drink coke until their teeth fall out and their organs have rotted away, fine, but i dont want to do so.

Finally, in regards to your belief that not drinking coke and other such 'sins' will not prevent you from being ill in later life -my grandfather has never drunk coke, hardly ever drunk alcohol, never smoked and never took drugs. At 74, apart from arthritis in his left hand due to playing a bass guitar for many years, he is healthy and lives independantly. That may be down to genes or some other factor, but i am certain that staying away from such things as soda adn tobacco have made him far healthier than many people his age.

[KptnKrill]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 03:23 AM
If you go the neo-puritanical route, you may live longer... diaper.

But my drinking coke has nothing to do with "neopuritanical" anyuthing. It has to do with the fact that I feel better when I'm not subjecting myself to the constant up and down rushes that massive amounts of sugar and caffeine cause.
Not to mention I'd rather not become dependent on some capo crap, *especially* when all it's doing is slowly killing me.

[C_Rasmussen]

Dude, its not killing you for fuck sake. If you do it in moderation IT WON'T KILL YOU.

[RedStarOverChina]

Originally posted by Josh of Heavens+Jun 3 2005, 03:36 AM--> (Josh of Heavens @ Jun 3 2005, 03:36 AM)
[email protected] 3 2005, 03:02 AM
Well considering that I drink 5-6 cans of coke everyday, u may argue that I'm not the healthiest person on earth. I'll give u that.
well i heard each can takes a minute off your life so..... [/b]
ah blah blah blah. I dont wanna live long. My great-grand mother lived 106 years and, trust me, I DONT WANT TO END UP LIKE HER!!!!!!!

[redstar2000]

Here is an interesting thread from the RCP board that discusses neo-puritanism in the left at considerable length...

Drug Free (http://awip.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=liberationcafe&action=display&thread=1115782249)

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[red_orchestra]

Buy Cuban goods and drinks...and then you'll be supporting Cuba! What an idea. Come to Canada were Cuban goods are plentiful.

:P

[RedStarOverChina]

I dont see any Cuban products here...
Now that u mentioned Cuba, they have their own brand of Coca-cola. Doesn't taste very good but still better than having nothing.

[Vallegrande]

Coca cola shouldnt have that name anymore, because there is no coca in the damn cola!!! It should be called de-cocanized cola, sounds better to me :D . And hey, coca gives a better rush than cola, but your teeth fall out.

[Entrails Konfetti]

I like Mexican sodas myself.I smoke cheap cigars all the time.
I don't like coke or pepsi,it tastes like cough syrup.
I don't really plan on living too long though,I'll probably die in Peru or something.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 07:46 PM
Coca cola shouldnt have that name anymore, because there is no coca in the damn cola!!! It should be called de-cocanized cola, sounds better to me :D . And hey, coca gives a better rush than cola, but your teeth fall out.
I understand where you are coming from but how many times to I have to say this?..........If you brush your teeth enough your teeth won't fall out or anything of that sort.

[codyvo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 09:01 AM
Jesus is that true? I heard each cigarette takes 5mins off your life. That's why I quit (that and the fact I was only 14 and I didn't know what I was getting into until shortly before my 15th birthday).
I heard 60 seconds takes a minute off your life. No I'm just kidding, I really don't think we should drink coke, not because of the health issue, because of the sugar farmer issue. Also don't listen to the crap about taking minutes off your life, how could a statistic like that be proven?

[Donnie]

I've herd lots of bad shit about Coca-Cola. I choose just to drink water or beer.

[bolshevik butcher]

It's a protest in my case, i eat chips and smoke pot occasionally, but i don't really wanna fund coke.

[LSD]

Then why doesn't your signature say "Free of Coca-Cola since 25.5.05"?

As it stands your signature would seem to indicate that you are protesting all carbonated drinks, which is just ...insane.

[bolshevik butcher]

It's all coke products thought, which includes other drinks.

[LSD]

Right, like Sprite and "Mellow Yellow" and such...

but not all carbonated beverages!!

If you want to boycott a company, fine, but why boycott any drink with CO2?!?

[Vallegrande]

If you want to boycott a company, fine, but why boycott any drink with CO2?!?

As long as it is not from a company that is draining all the water from a people. India is having this problem with the coca cola company sucking all their water and leaving none that is drinkable for the inhabitants.

[Clarksist]

I don't drink any soda, and haven't since over a year ago. Why? Because soda is the nectar of Babylon. It is a drink purely made to get us addicted and always wanting more.

I smoke cigarettes some, but I never pay for it.

[red-gers]

Originally posted by C_Rasmussen+Jun 3 2005, 08:15 PM--> (C_Rasmussen @ Jun 3 2005, 08:15 PM)
[email protected] 3 2005, 07:46 PM
Coca cola shouldnt have that name anymore, because there is no coca in the damn cola!!! It should be called de-cocanized cola, sounds better to me :D . And hey, coca gives a better rush than cola, but your teeth fall out.
I understand where you are coming from but how many times to I have to say this?..........If you brush your teeth enough your teeth won't fall out or anything of that sort. [/b]
no but coca cola will keep on funding death squads in colombia. so brush away but dont give your money to coke!!!

http://www.colombiasolidarity.org.uk/cocacolacampaign.html

[LSD]

As long as it is not from a company that is draining all the water from a people. India is having this problem with the coca cola company sucking all their water and leaving none that is drinkable for the inhabitants.

no but coca cola will keep on funding death squads in colombia. so brush away but dont give your money to coke!!!

Fine, so boycott COkE!

But what the hell is this "no carbonated beverages since" crap?

That's not boycotting a company, that's boycotting CO2.


Let me tell you, I love carbonated beverages, actually one carbonated beverage, the simplist one: Club Soda. Pretty much all I dink is Club Soda. What's in Club Soda? Well, water, CO2, and.... nothing.

Now, explain to me how that's dangerous!

[T_SP]

I see this as nothing more than a personal protest! And why not? That is their right.
As for RS2K, are ya serious:


(redstar2000)
In America, we are cursed with, among other things, a kind of secular neo-puritanical cult which regards pleasurable indulgences as a kind of "sin" and self-denial as a kind of "redemption".

Their basic hypothesis is that if you become ill, it's because you did drugs or didn't exercise enough or ate a poor diet or had too many sexual partners -- it's your own damn fault, SINNER!

Their righteous self-denial is paraded in their sigs as a sign of Moral Superiority -- and the rest of us are supposed to repent and follow them.

Just pop your leaking brain back in it's sponge bag and stop being so melodramatic about something as simple as giving up fizzy drinks! Hell I gave up meat and dairy products and I couldn't careless what others think.
What does it matter about the finer points of it? Honestly no-one could construe this as a protest against CO2 unless you are completely out of your mind!

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by T_SP
Just pop your leaking brain back in it's sponge bag and stop being so melodramatic about something as simple as giving up fizzy drinks!

It's not what you give up...it's that some people think that giving up stuff is a sign of inner virtue.

So much so that they boast of it in their sigs.

I care no more than you what people do in their personal lives. But when they publicize their personal choices, the implication is clearly "you should choose as I have chosen...or else you're shit."

That is, we're self-destructive, hedonistic...sinners!

In a larger social context, secular neo-puritanism is one of the components of the whole complex of reactionary ideologies that plague the United States today...and therefore deserves condemnation by revolutionaries.

Right?

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[OleMarxco]

So to speak, RedStar, it was not about levelling himself "over us", in a sense of way...more like showing boycotting carbonated beverages i.e. sodas in plain language, is a good idea, since most are sold by Coca cola company anyways, and is there any which is NOT? If so, tell me. I don't he does it because it makes him more PURE, but more....well, uhh......."morally safe"? Or "with his on the dry"? That he's "atleast not supporting an evil dominating company by buying a fuckin' soda"? Okay, perhaps you're atleast SOME right, RS2K, that it's foolish to believe boycotting makes you better, but it's still a good idea......with all the bullshit Coca Cola does. It's not like I'm indirectly guilthy of all they do, however, 'cuz if I did, I'm just BUYING A FUCKIN' SODA, whatever they do - More and less "innocent", eh? Well, atleast if I didn't know already, so stop levelling yourself over us, huh?

'Sides, it's only one person who proclaims doing it, so...meh! Worthy of a topic, huh? ;)

[T_SP]

Originally posted by redstar2000+Jun 5 2005, 02:35 PM--> (redstar2000 @ Jun 5 2005, 02:35 PM)
T_SP
Just pop your leaking brain back in it's sponge bag and stop being so melodramatic about something as simple as giving up fizzy drinks!

It's not what you give up...it's that some people think that giving up stuff is a sign of inner virtue.

So much so that they boast of it in their sigs.

I care no more than you what people do in their personal lives. But when they publicize their personal choices, the implication is clearly "you should choose as I have chosen...or else you're shit."

That is, we're self-destructive, hedonistic...sinners!

In a larger social context, secular neo-puritanism is one of the components of the whole complex of reactionary ideologies that plague the United States today...and therefore deserves condemnation by revolutionaries.

Right?

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You honestly think these kids had that on their mind when they put that in their sigs?
Give me a break!!
You are over dramaitising this, if I was to hand out a leaflet on a street about the war on Iraq would that make me a neo-puritanist??? I don't think so! It is a protest against drinks, that is all, why not highlight the atrocitys of capitalism? Isn't this the way we all try to draw people into a debate, by making a statement then answering questions on that statement then elaborating etc etc?

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by T_SP
You honestly think these kids had that on their mind when they put that in their sigs?

Yes...otherwise, why say so?

That is, if someone put in their sig "Coca-Cola free since 01-01-05", one would assume that they're boycotting Coca-Cola for well known reasons.

Just as if someone put in their sig "Wal-Mart free since, etc." or "Micro$oft free since, etc."

Although it would be clearer if they just said "Boycott Coke!" or whatever.

If someone says "free of carbonated beverages", what's the political message there? It's like saying "alcohol-free" or "tobacco-free" -- it's a proclamation of physiological "virtue" that's independent of class.

They might just as well put "HIV-Negative and Proud" in their sigs.

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