neo-cons polluting the site...

[bensquid]

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[RedStarOverChina]

well i guess they know who's the boss here. A few clowns running around can only help us realize their idoicy. If they get too annoying we will just ban them. Either way, it doesnt cost us a thing.

[OleMarxco]

Well, there is always bandwith....
...and free entertainment! What a luxury, we can thankesth Capitalism fer these fools :P
The pigs' are runnin' the sty tonight.

[Rangeley]

I know who the boss is here, and I appreciate being given this forum for Opposing Ideologies. I look forward to a debate on communism, and topics associated with it.

[RedStarOverChina]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 02:10 AM
I know who the boss is here, and I appreciate being given this forum for Opposing Ideologies. I look forward to a debate on communisms and topics associated with it.
:D maybe i shouldnt use the term boss.

If u are not yet a socialist then we can certainly debate and educate each other. U can message me if u wanna ask questions, or simply post on "learning forum".

Have fun!

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 06:11 AM
while its fun to point and laugh at the neo-cons and fascists do we really need their crap wasting webspace??
Where are they ? I don't see any.

[Publius]

Yeah, I could swear there isn't a single neo-con OR fascist that posts here.

I mean, I hardly support the existance of a state, why would I support a giant welfare/warfare state, something totally opposite to my ideology?

Painting with a broad brush are we?

[RedAnarchist]

What would you classify yourself as, Publius?

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

I'm the only real communist here. The rest of you are anti-revolutonaries. All of you fake communist have hate, destruction, and vengance in your hearts. There can only be more bad karma from you fake communist.

[Publius]

What would you classify yourself as, Publius?

Libertarian would be the best one-word description.

[JudeObscure84]

while its fun to point and laugh at the neo-cons and fascists do we really need their crap wasting webspace??

Fascists would be anti-neo-con, too. The Iraqi Baath Party modeled after the National Socialists were obviously against the neo-cons. The Flange National Syndicalist Party in Spain objected to the Iraqi invasion just as much as thier Socialist rivals. Most of the Islamo Fascist Parties in the mid East also obviously object to the neo cons. Go to any neo-Nazi website and they will have tons of pics of Bush kissing Sharon's boots, critical reviews of Bush and neo cons, and anti-Israel propaganda that outdoes leftist and islamic radical sites.

David Duke gave an anti-war speech in Richmond,VA. He calls it a War for Israel and says that Israel is the real enemy not Iraq.

http://www.nowarforisrael.com/ < created by anti-semitic neo nazi Bruce Alan "Vincent" Breeding

So it would seem that Fascists and "neo-cons" are foes as well.

[JudeObscure84]

What would you classify yourself as, JudeObscure84?

thanks for asking. :lol: Libertarian with some neo con pinnings. very little though.

[tambourine_man]

while its fun to point and laugh at the neo-cons and fascists do we really need their crap wasting webspace??



Where are they ? I don&#39;t see any.

do we really need to get technical? you&#39;re all misguided enemies of the people.

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 01:23 AM

while its fun to point and laugh at the neo-cons and fascists do we really need their crap wasting webspace??



Where are they ? I don&#39;t see any.

do we really need to get technical? you&#39;re all misguided enemies of the people.
The real enemies are people who fake being communist. The people who have hate, vengance, and injustice in thier hearts, but preach communism.

[bed_of_nails]

Originally posted by ahhh_money_is_comfort+Jun 1 2005, 01:45 AM--> (ahhh_money_is_comfort @ Jun 1 2005, 01:45 AM)
[email protected] 1 2005, 01:23 AM

while its fun to point and laugh at the neo-cons and fascists do we really need their crap wasting webspace??



Where are they ? I don&#39;t see any.

do we really need to get technical? you&#39;re all misguided enemies of the people.
The real enemies are people who fake being communist. The people who have hate, vengance, and injustice in thier hearts, but preach communism. [/b]
AMIC you found me. I am a fashion Commie&#33;

Crowd: Jerry&#33; Jerry&#33; Jerry&#33;

**Fat, heavily tattooed lady with two teeth wearing only a bikini tries to fight me until it gets broken up**

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by bed_of_nails+Jun 1 2005, 02:51 AM--> (bed_of_nails @ Jun 1 2005, 02:51 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 01:45 AM

[email protected] 1 2005, 01:23 AM

while its fun to point and laugh at the neo-cons and fascists do we really need their crap wasting webspace??



Where are they ? I don&#39;t see any.

do we really need to get technical? you&#39;re all misguided enemies of the people.
The real enemies are people who fake being communist. The people who have hate, vengance, and injustice in thier hearts, but preach communism.
AMIC you found me. I am a fashion Commie&#33;

Crowd: Jerry&#33; Jerry&#33; Jerry&#33;

**Fat, heavily tattooed lady with two teeth wearing only a bikini tries to fight me until it gets broken up** [/b]
Do you like violence? Do you find it interesting?

[Jersey Devil]

More spam that goes untouched.

[slim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 03:52 PM
I&#39;m the only real communist here. The rest of you are anti-revolutonaries. All of you fake communist have hate, destruction, and vengance in your hearts. There can only be more bad karma from you fake communist.
I think your getting ahead of yourself. Have you read any of my posts? Anti-revolutionary my arse.

Do chara de geo.

[Hegemonicretribution]

Originally posted by ahhh_money_is_comfort+Jun 1 2005, 01:45 AM--> (ahhh_money_is_comfort @ Jun 1 2005, 01:45 AM)


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. [/b]
The real enemies are people who fake being communist. The people who have hate, vengance, and injustice in thier hearts, but preach communism. [/b][/quote]
I agree completely, although there are people along the same lines who reach other things that are equally as bad.

[Colombia]

So uh, what exactly is the point of this thread?

[codyvo]

Originally posted by ahhh_money_is_comfort+Jun 1 2005, 01:45 AM--> (ahhh_money_is_comfort @ Jun 1 2005, 01:45 AM)
[email protected] 1 2005, 01:23 AM

while its fun to point and laugh at the neo-cons and fascists do we really need their crap wasting webspace??



Where are they ? I don&#39;t see any.

do we really need to get technical? you&#39;re all misguided enemies of the people.
The real enemies are people who fake being communist. The people who have hate, vengance, and injustice in thier hearts, but preach communism. [/b]
What about the pacifist? And do you honestly believe that of all the members on this whole site, you are the only true communist, seems a bit egocentric if you ask me.

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by codyvo+Jun 1 2005, 04:27 PM--> (codyvo @ Jun 1 2005, 04:27 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 01:45 AM

[email protected] 1 2005, 01:23 AM

while its fun to point and laugh at the neo-cons and fascists do we really need their crap wasting webspace??



Where are they ? I don&#39;t see any.

do we really need to get technical? you&#39;re all misguided enemies of the people.
The real enemies are people who fake being communist. The people who have hate, vengance, and injustice in thier hearts, but preach communism.
What about the pacifist? And do you honestly believe that of all the members on this whole site, you are the only true communist, seems a bit egocentric if you ask me. [/b]
I&#39;d be more willing to follow a pacificist and trust a pacificst to not SCREW with me in a communist system and not a violent revolutionary. The violent ones become the next Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Originally posted by ahhh_money_is_comfort+Jun 2 2005, 02:23 AM--> (ahhh_money_is_comfort @ Jun 2 2005, 02:23 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 01:45 AM

[email protected] 1 2005, 01:23 AM

while its fun to point and laugh at the neo-cons and fascists do we really need their crap wasting webspace??



Where are they ? I don&#39;t see any.

do we really need to get technical? you&#39;re all misguided enemies of the people.
The real enemies are people who fake being communist. The people who have hate, vengance, and injustice in thier hearts, but preach communism.
What about the pacifist? And do you honestly believe that of all the members on this whole site, you are the only true communist, seems a bit egocentric if you ask me.
I&#39;d be more willing to follow a pacificist and trust a pacificst to not SCREW with me in a communist system and not a violent revolutionary. The violent ones become the next Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot. [/b]
Violent revolutionaries get things done, pacifists dance about and hand out flowers and get beaten to death by cops.

[RedAnarchist]

Violence will be necessary in a revolution if we are to acheive our goals. We wont like violence, and we will not wish to use it, but the ruling classes will not be even bruised by pacifism. It may have worked for Ghandi and Luther King, but they werent fighting in a communist revolution. When the revolution comes, there will be violence from both sides. It will not be pretty, and it certainly will not be peaceful, but it will be necessary.

[Sabocat]

I&#39;d be more willing to follow a pacificist and trust a pacificst to not SCREW with me in a communist system and not a violent revolutionary


I know it was a long time ago, but I must have missed the class in history when they discussed that there were no casualties during the American Revolution.


The violent ones become the next Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.

Are you insinuating that George Washington was the precursor to Pol Pot, or do you believe that G Washington handed out flowers on the battle field?

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by NoXion+Jun 2 2005, 10:50 AM--> (NoXion @ Jun 2 2005, 10:50 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2005, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 01:45 AM

[email protected] 1 2005, 01:23 AM

while its fun to point and laugh at the neo-cons and fascists do we really need their crap wasting webspace??



Where are they ? I don&#39;t see any.

do we really need to get technical? you&#39;re all misguided enemies of the people.
The real enemies are people who fake being communist. The people who have hate, vengance, and injustice in thier hearts, but preach communism.
What about the pacifist? And do you honestly believe that of all the members on this whole site, you are the only true communist, seems a bit egocentric if you ask me.
I&#39;d be more willing to follow a pacificist and trust a pacificst to not SCREW with me in a communist system and not a violent revolutionary. The violent ones become the next Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.
Violent revolutionaries get things done, pacifists dance about and hand out flowers and get beaten to death by cops. [/b]
Not according to Ghandi and Martin Luther King.

Only with truely enlighted men will a truely enlighted society. Only such men will make a system just and fair. Thugs make a mess and mess things up even more.

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2005, 11:59 AM
Violence will be necessary in a revolution if we are to acheive our goals. We wont like violence, and we will not wish to use it, but the ruling classes will not be even bruised by pacifism. It may have worked for Ghandi and Luther King, but they werent fighting in a communist revolution. When the revolution comes, there will be violence from both sides. It will not be pretty, and it certainly will not be peaceful, but it will be necessary.
You sound like a thug preaching thug tactics.

[Jersey Devil]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 02:53 PM
So uh, what exactly is the point of this thread?
To troll and spam the board.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I refuse to believe that you seriously mean any of this pacifism crap, especially after you stated your willingness to kill for oil.

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 02:30 AM
I refuse to believe that you seriously mean any of this pacifism crap, especially after you stated your willingness to kill for oil.
I will follow a pacificist leader and I will follow a pacificst revolution. I will not trust a violent revolutionary. Those people like killing people and giving them authority and power is a bad bad bad idea. I&#39;m not a pacifist.

[encephalon]

I will follow a pacificist leader and I will follow a pacificst revolution. I will not trust a violent revolutionary. Those people like killing people and giving them authority and power is a bad bad bad idea. I&#39;m not a pacifist.


With the exception of Stalin, I would say that&#39;s a mischaracterization. They didn&#39;t like killing people any more than George Washington liked killing people.

[OleMarxco]

Don&#39;t forget that just because we call for violent -overthrowing-, doesn&#39;t mean we call for violent -purges-.....although it may seem VERY similar to you...the ones doing revolution will not be thugs, or intellectuals (only, atleast) but regular people, who fall inbetween those two charicataristic labels. They&#39;re a bit thuggy - enough "thuggy" to shoot a gun, rifle, or whatever, but "intellectual" enough to not kill in cold blood or massacre capitalists. And stay cool-headed enough to establish a society afterwards, whilst being "thuggy" enough to can step up to defend it&#39;s, this new start.

The thing is just leaderless revolution (perhaps "councils" of revolutionaries, but nothing complex) and/or a TEMPORARY leader with PERMANENT limitations.......skepticism is teh key...and Bob Avakian&#33;? :)

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 09:46 AM


I will follow a pacificist leader and I will follow a pacificst revolution. I will not trust a violent revolutionary. Those people like killing people and giving them authority and power is a bad bad bad idea. I&#39;m not a pacifist.


With the exception of Stalin, I would say that&#39;s a mischaracterization. They didn&#39;t like killing people any more than George Washington liked killing people.
Your right Stalinist don&#39;t like killing people. They do it quite business like. It is a necessary job to get done to solidify thier power base.

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 12:51 PM
Don&#39;t forget that just because we call for violent -overthrowing-, doesn&#39;t mean we call for violent -purges-.....although it may seem VERY similar to you...the ones doing revolution will not be thugs, or intellectuals (only, atleast) but regular people, who fall inbetween those two charicataristic labels. They&#39;re a bit thuggy - enough "thuggy" to shoot a gun, rifle, or whatever, but "intellectual" enough to not kill in cold blood or massacre capitalists. And stay cool-headed enough to establish a society afterwards, whilst being "thuggy" enough to can step up to defend it&#39;s, this new start.

The thing is just leaderless revolution (perhaps "councils" of revolutionaries, but nothing complex) and/or a TEMPORARY leader with PERMANENT limitations.......skepticism is teh key...and Bob Avakian&#33;? :)
Hey Comrade, revolutions don&#39;t happen like the way you outlined. Never has and never will. The fact is someone good at being a good Stalinist rises to power quickly and takes care of &#39;business&#39;. The same business I stated in the above post.

[JudeObscure84]

Don&#39;t forget that just because we call for violent -overthrowing-, doesn&#39;t mean we call for violent -purges-.....although it may seem VERY similar to you...the ones doing revolution will not be thugs, or intellectuals (only, atleast) but regular people, who fall inbetween those two charicataristic labels. They&#39;re a bit thuggy - enough "thuggy" to shoot a gun, rifle, or whatever, but "intellectual" enough to not kill in cold blood or massacre capitalists. And stay cool-headed enough to establish a society afterwards, whilst being "thuggy" enough to can step up to defend it&#39;s, this new start.

The thing is just leaderless revolution (perhaps "councils" of revolutionaries, but nothing complex) and/or a TEMPORARY leader with PERMANENT limitations.......skepticism is teh key...and Bob Avakian&#33;?

Yes, ofcourse just like no white people were hurt during the Rodney King riots,right? Oh Please, you make it sound so nifty like its going to be an angry mob with considerable compassion.

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2005, 04:15 PM

Don&#39;t forget that just because we call for violent -overthrowing-, doesn&#39;t mean we call for violent -purges-.....although it may seem VERY similar to you...the ones doing revolution will not be thugs, or intellectuals (only, atleast) but regular people, who fall inbetween those two charicataristic labels. They&#39;re a bit thuggy - enough "thuggy" to shoot a gun, rifle, or whatever, but "intellectual" enough to not kill in cold blood or massacre capitalists. And stay cool-headed enough to establish a society afterwards, whilst being "thuggy" enough to can step up to defend it&#39;s, this new start.

The thing is just leaderless revolution (perhaps "councils" of revolutionaries, but nothing complex) and/or a TEMPORARY leader with PERMANENT limitations.......skepticism is teh key...and Bob Avakian&#33;?

Yes, ofcourse just like no white people were hurt during the Rodney King riots,right? Oh Please, you make it sound so nifty like its going to be an angry mob with considerable compassion.
Don&#39;t forget, communist is make believe. So anything can happen. Such as the &#39;ideal&#39; revolutionary. Someone who is a combination warrior and intellectual, imagine a combination of Rambo, Mother Teresa, and Plato. Since were talking make believe this is what is going to make up a communist revolutionary. If you don&#39;t have a person like that, then your revolutionies are just thugs, or to whimpy or to bougouise.