The DUMBEST thing that happened to me

[FidelCastro]

Ok so I advertise that I am a Communist, in fact its all I talk about. Anyways the other day i was sitting in down talking to some friends before class when this kid comes up to me and says "We don't need Nazi's like you in our school." I laughed my ass off so hard and a bunch of kids did too. All he did was make a total idiot of himself calling me a Nazi. I was laughing so i hard I forgot to punch him. I mean how can people relate Communism and Fascism? They are the two most opposite things.

[codyvo]

I agree entirely, and that is pretty funny, I think that a lot of the comparisons between them come from the american media making everything that's communist "evil". Other sources for this are that Nazis were National [Socialists] which may confuse a lot of idiots.

Now that I think of it, Stalin, being a dictator, and always being compared to Hitler by other idiots probably didn't help either.

[encephalon]

i get the same thing, more from adults than the kids I meet every once in a while. Strangely, more young people recognize lenin than older people.

[ColinH]

This is both funny and frustrating.

[qazonkgb]

I know what you mean. I walked into a German class and this one guy asked
"Hey, you that Communist aren’t you"
And I was like "Yeah,” because I get this a lot at my school, then this guy has the nerve to ask,
"Hey, you’re a Nazi right?"
:o
Jeez. And when I said no there was this asshole that is like deep into the "Soviet Union"(basically one of the guys who just collect army paraphernalia and crap) has the goddamn balls to say they're a lot alike :blink:
Can someone get me out of this school?

[Cobra]

Originally posted by FidelCastro+--> (FidelCastro)I mean how can people relate Communism and Fascism? They are the two most opposite things. [/b]
I know… And it applies to anarchy as well. Every time I mention the word I get the same response, “That wouldn’t work because there would be no order”. What do those warmongers know about order? Bah…


Originally posted by [email protected]
I think that a lot of the comparisons between them come from the american media making everything that's communist "evil".
As an American myself, I second that notion. The American media does everything it can to portray anything remotely resembling communism as being a scourge to humanity. And they don’t even have the slightest idea what the word communism means. The media has gotten extremely good at brainwashing the public. Even George Orwell would be impressed.


codyvo
Stalin, being a dictator, and always being compared to Hitler by other idiots probably didn't help either.
Stalin did do a lot in discrediting the worker’s movement. Though, he did help bring Russia out of feudalism. Stalin’s rule was historically inevitable, given the material conditions. Therefore, it is unfair for the secular priesthood to complain about him.

Watching The History Channel I’ve noticed that Hitler is often portrayed as being a hero. All it ever shows is Hitler, 24 hours a day. It should be renamed The Hitler Channel. <_<

[Matthew The Great]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 04:44 AM


Watching The History Channel I’ve noticed that Hitler is often portrayed as being a hero. All it ever shows is Hitler, 24 hours a day. It should be renamed The Hitler Channel. <_<
I know&#33; It&#39;s very, very annoying. When they are not yakking about Hitler they are yakking about Hitler and Stalin&#39;s death toll.

If they are not talking about that crap it&#39;s usually a show about UFOs, aliens, commets, asteroids, etc.

If I want history give me history. Not Sci-Fi crap.

[Donnie]

I have a friend who is a communist and he talking to everyone in class about capitalism and this thick girl told him to "shut you nazi communist". Everyone laughed at her and she said if we have communism we will go back to the 1930&#39;s of Germany.

Actually when i talk about Anarchy alot of people in my class no alot about it because many in my class do politics and so we have to studed Anarchism, the same is for communism.

[slim]

Thats one thing i can appreciate about being in England.

The people are ignorant but they have a mild respect and interest of what they dont know (in my area anyway).

In my school im probably the most politically active person in terms of giving advice and informing about different ideologies and surprisingly everyone loves me for it.

Im described as a communist, anarchist, revolutionary, liberal and conservative among others. I dont mind it as long as it is complimentary.

[OleMarxco]

The best is not to try to shove Communism into everyone&#39;s face, MOST important. I don&#39;t want to look like some fuckin&#39; missionary or sumthin&#39;, albeit &#39;tho it&#39;s temptin&#39; to do so, sometimes. So I sneak it in, rin&#39;fer&#39;thin, sometimes. Only problem I&#39;ve had is...hmmmm....I don&#39;t recall mutch. I&#39;m very recent in leftism. Not so outspoken...as of yet. But there were some comments, I&#39;m fer&#39;sure. Back-talkin&#39;, mayhaps? I get compliments, mostly. Instead of preaching it to everyone, I do wear a &#39;Che&#39;-pin, and well, that doesn&#39;t bother anyone mutch, rather the opposite. People are pretty tolerant here :P

[slim]

I dont attract attention purposefully. I think that people are genuinely interested in what i have to say. I might be talking to someone about how unfair a certain thing is and it will develop into ideology.

Or maybe they just want to talk to me through charisma i dont know, i certainly hope not lol.

[More Fire for the People]

I would also like to note that American textbooks refering to Western Europe, especially Scandanavia, as socialist countries doesn&#39;t help much.

[RhetoricalAbsurdity]

Ugh, this has happened to me sooooo many times. Nearly all of the kids at my school are rich, ignorant, and ultra-capitalist. Aside from having myself equated to Nazis, I&#39;m commonly refered to as "commie scum," "dirty commie," or a variety of other more... colorful nicknames.

It also doesn&#39;t help that my History teacher (a very loud and proud capitalist) knows less about communist and anarchist theories than I do, believes that the USSR is a "textbook example of communism in action," and had no idea who Che was until I did a research paper on the Cuban Revolution.

[Clarksist]

I get the Nazi tag on me a lot for being a commie. All you have to do is just tell them that these "evil commies" defeated Germany in WWII. That&#39;s how I get them to shut up.

[More Fire for the People]

The history teachers at my school are a conservative Democrat and social democratic Democrat.

Atleast the social democratic one allows open debate in class ;)

[RhetoricalAbsurdity]

Oh, my history teacher allows open debate as well. Not that it matters, since my class is (or was, I forgot school is out) comprised of one anarcho-communist (me), one green, a democrat or two, and then a huge mush of libertarians, republicans, extreme social darwinists, and other such pleasant people. So it pretty much ends up being me (and, on occasion, my green buddy) making fifteen different points to fifteen different people (my teacher included), none of whom have the slightest clue what we&#39;re talking about, and usually ends in the words Nazi, ignorant, close-minded, and scum being thrown around in all directions before my teacher steps in. Debate my arse.

[*Hippie*]

It blows my mind how people associate communism with "evil" all the time. I finally told my father I was Communist and he said to me, I wanted a country like Iraq with a dictator like Saddam Hussein. :o

[Holocaustpulp]

Hahaha. A Nazi? This is almost scary (conservative talk-radio makes it so). I&#39;ve never encountered such slander, however, perhaps if I were open I would.

- HP

[*Hippie*]

What aren&#39;t you open yet? I am just curious? Are you afraid of the opposition?

[Guest_necro_oner]

The politcal spectrum is technically set up in a way that you can be communist and fascist at the same time, right? Up/Down = Fascism/Anarchism Left/Right= Collectivism/Libertarianism

[Holocaustpulp]

*Hippie*: "What aren&#39;t you open yet? I am just curious? Are you afraid of the opposition?"

The main problem is that I don&#39;t have an organization to utilize - everyone who knows me knows I&#39;m a socialist, yet I have not found an organization to join.

- HP

[ColinH]

It&#39;s near impossible to get to everyone in my school short of calling an assembly. I get the feeling I&#39;m playing Whack-A-Mole when it comes to explaining anarchism/socialism/communism to people. As soon as I define the theories and explain what they aren&#39;t to one person, a history teacher will slip in some textbook crap when talking to a class of about 30. Either nobody cares or they just believe the teacher 100%.

[Sa&#39;d al-Bari]

I mean how can people relate Communism and Fascism? They are the two most opposite things.

It still surprises me not that people continue to equate Communism and Fascism, but that Communists are surprised that people make such an equation. Consider the anti-communist teachings of the public school system in western countries, for many who dogmatically accept such teachings as an unassailable truth (and to except it as such is also enforced by the nature of such teaching), thinking as such is a socially accepted norm. It seems to me that once people have come politicized by their Communist tendencies they seem to forget that so many people still take these draconian lies to heart. But it is important, however, to not forget that such view points exist under such present conditions.

However, Marxist theoreticians have proven correct that by their own experience many will revert from such dogmatic lies and embrace alternative viewpoints. For instance, I myself have observed personally that many Communists I know have become politicized to their current standpoints following 9/11 and the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Such serious situations and the blatant lies of the capitalists regarding them have shown people, by their own experience the necessity of an alternative viewpoint. Indeed this occurrence should not be overestimated, but I think it is relevant here.

[Raisa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 03:43 AM
It&#39;s near impossible to get to everyone in my school short of calling an assembly. I get the feeling I&#39;m playing Whack-A-Mole when it comes to explaining anarchism/socialism/communism to people. As soon as I define the theories and explain what they aren&#39;t to one person, a history teacher will slip in some textbook crap when talking to a class of about 30. Either nobody cares or they just believe the teacher 100%.
They want to pass the test, and they dont see how half of the shit the teacher is saying relates to their future.

[Maynard]

It seems to me that once people have come politicized by their Communist tendencies they seem to forget that so many people still take these draconian lies to heart
Best point of the thread so far. Great post, Sa&#39;d al-Bari This is both incredibly easy and dangerous for any leftist to do, it makes it so much easier to give up trying to convince anyone of the benefits of leftism because they are "brainwashed" or "idiots". Every person, well just about, it must be remembered, are potential leftists, even if now they equate Communism to Fascism or Communism to Joseph Stalin, I know I was guilty of the second point in my younger days, because I didn&#39;t hear any point to the contrary. So, leftists must not become "introverted" and only have arguments amongst themselves, when there is a whole word to engage in and win.

The most important issue is why are people and a lot of them, believing what should be obvious nonsense? I&#39;m not sure if it is just school but the whole political discourse, which, especially in the United States, can be of extremely low standard.
When I was in school though, generally I made my point without bringing up my overall political ideology but if someone asked, I wouldn&#39;t lie

[RedAnarchist]

Why would you lie anyway? Communists have nothing to be ashamed of. Its the Fascists and Neo-Nazis who should be ashamed.

[Rage]

Everyweek at my church this ass butt fart shit calls me a neo nazi communist of the new republic. And he is being serious :| WTf


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Rock on&#33;

[bunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2005, 12:32 PM
Everyweek at my church this ass butt fart shit calls me a neo nazi communist of the new republic. And he is being serious :| WTf


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Rock on&#33;
Why go to church?

[RedAnarchist]

You get dragged along to Church? Poor guy.

Are you sure this obnoxious freak is being serious? The whole moniker he gives you would shame even the most idiotic toddler&#33; He sounds like a classic American patriotis loser - scared of what he doesnt know, scared to find out about what he doesnt know.

[danny android]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2005, 12:57 AM
Ok so I advertise that I am a Communist, in fact its all I talk about. Anyways the other day i was sitting in down talking to some friends before class when this kid comes up to me and says "We don&#39;t need Nazi&#39;s like you in our school." I laughed my ass off so hard and a bunch of kids did too. All he did was make a total idiot of himself calling me a Nazi. I was laughing so i hard I forgot to punch him. I mean how can people relate Communism and Fascism? They are the two most opposite things.
that is funny. the same kind of thing happend to me about awhile ago. I was running for class president at my school and i was running as a communist i made posters that said elect a communist elect me and stuff it was great. I am also jewish. so one day some kid comes up to me and is like "i finally got the joke" and i say "what joke" and he says "you being communist and being jewish it is an like an oxymorone" me and my commie freinds gave him a lot of crap after that and he finally found out that there is a HUGE differnece between nazism/fascism and communism. don&#39;t get to frustrated with these people most of them just don&#39;t know who the hell we are.

[bur372]

I&#39;m doing history next year and the whole sylabbus is about nazi germany, and the USSR and a bit on the cuban missile crisis. But of course there&#39;s nothing (specific) on any communist theory. The goverment is trying to teach us about the downfalls of communisim without any of the theory.

[danny android]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2005, 06:53 PM
The goverment is trying to teach us about the downfalls of communisim without any of the theory.
this is to true.