Please unblock me

[A Free Mind]

Can you please unblock me because I was blocked ages ago and since then my political views have changed and I feel that I could contribute to the disscusions on other parts of this site

[encephalon]

exactly how have your views changed? I've read through your posts, and few instances have been given to reflect any serious change. You seemed to have gravitated slightly leftwards, but if you've still such right-wing views in other areas I wouldn't support your unrestriction, especially concerning homosexuals and capitalism.

[A Free Mind]

I never posted on Capitalism and on the issue of gay marriage I said that I supported them having a civil union with the same rights as a marriage just no a marrage in a church as it is outlawed in the bible .
Its simply about respect . Communists would not like it if Capitialists demanded that in order to end discrimination Communism must no longer be about equality for the masses or the abolition of Capitalism. Think about it its the same thing

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Okay, but we oppose religion altogether.

[1936]

"We" as in you people whom run the board, and not of the left wing community.

[Hegemonicretribution]

From what I have seen you are restricted for what come be deemed a breach of the rules, ie. prejudice towards homosexuals. Fair enough, I suppose you are entitled to your oppinion, however your views of what at the end of the day are just people who made a different choice sits as easily with me as the ideas of of gay marriage in church do with you. If you had your way this would not be allowed, and if I had my way, persons with whom I discuss those kind of issues with I would do so in opposing ideologies (as far as ths board goes).

Apart from anything I see little in the ways of left leaning politics in your posts. A tendency towards a more democratic society yes, but that is not fundamentally what the rest of the board is for.

[Hegemonicretribution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 02:14 PM
"We" as in you people whom run the board, and not of the left wing community.
I suppose science also opposes religion, but of course there are religious scentsts. There are religious leftists.

[bolshevik butcher]

Originally posted by Hegemonicretribution+May 25 2005, 04:12 PM--> (Hegemonicretribution @ May 25 2005, 04:12 PM)
[email protected] 25 2005, 02:14 PM
"We" as in you people whom run the board, and not of the left wing community.
I suppose science also opposes religion, but of course there are religious scentsts. There are religious leftists. [/b]
There is no proof for god's existance, personally i don't think it's a major issue, if people are socialists i don't care if they are religous or not.

[OleMarxco]

I am against all restriction and robbery of freedom because of political opinion, and the idea of an "opposed ideologies"-forum to "cage" people because they are "supporters" of our "enemy" (reactionary? I doubt A Free Mind is a pure capitalist standing beside the moneygrubbers.) - that is bullshit. No, this should be a site to engage in discussions, learn and perhaps "convert" to leftism in, NOT to condone people with suspicions of "unleftist" mindset. Since when was "prejudice against homosexuals" unleftish? Even though I despise homophobes, I won't witch-hunt them like this.

Therefore, I say unrestrict him. Perhaps he's a centrist...and perhaps he had odd opinions about homosexuality...but......that's just a point of view, and who gives a shit about that? :D

[Cobra]

I agree with what OleMarxo said.

Everyone is born with the ability to reason, and by constantly being bombarded by superior arguments one will tend to reject their weak arguments and support the stronger ones. If a member is here a long time and loses many debates, they would logically see the flaws in their beliefs and, in a sense, would be “converted”.

I’ll use myself as an example. When I first came to this forum I was a right wing socialist. I thought that the world needed people like Stalin to rule the ignorant masses. After being at this forum for a couple years I figured out that allowing people to have that much power only brings war and genocide. And I eventually became an anarchist. If I was banned for my Stalinist beliefs when I first joined this forum I might not have converted to anarchy.

The purpose of this forum is to educate the masses. This can only be done if everyone is allowed to participate in the forum. Restricting all the “non-believers” is counterproductive and can serve no meaningful purpose.

As for anal sex, I personally find it disgusting. But people should be free to do it if they feel like it. But people who do anal sex should at least take a shower afterwards. :D

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

You're not worth the consideration of whether or not we should unrestrict you. Therefore you have made a nuisance of yourself, and I suggest a ban.

[ZeroPain]

I am against all restriction and robbery of freedom because of political opinion, and the idea of an "opposed ideologies"-forum to "cage" people because they are "supporters" of our "enemy" (reactionary? I doubt A Free Mind is a pure capitalist standing beside the moneygrubbers.) - that is bullshit. No, this should be a site to engage in discussions, learn and perhaps "convert" to leftism in, NOT to condone people with suspicions of "unleftist" mindset. Since when was "prejudice against homosexuals" unleftish? Even though I despise homophobes, I won't witch-hunt them like this.

The reason for restricting people is so we dont have to deal with constant harassment everywhere.

[Cobra]

Originally posted by ZeroPain
The reason for restricting people is so we dont have to deal with constant harassment everywhere.
How will the masses get rid of their bigotry without interacting with the people they hate? Through interacting with each other we gain a better understanding of each other and can overcome prejudice. Talking to people who think exactly how you do isn’t going to solve anything.

[kurt]

Originally posted by Cobra+May 25 2005, 11:31 PM--> (Cobra @ May 25 2005, 11:31 PM)
ZeroPain
The reason for restricting people is so we dont have to deal with constant harassment everywhere.
How will the masses get rid of their bigotry without interacting with the people they hate? Through interacting with each other we gain a better understanding of each other and can overcome prejudice. Talking to people who think exactly how you do isn’t going to solve anything. [/b]
This site is for left thinking people to discuss matters that only pertain to the left, and enrich their knowledge of revolutionary politics. If you want to argue with cappies, go to a bank, or visit another forum. OR, visit this OI forum that has been created.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 03:14 PM
"We" as in you people whom run the board, and not of the left wing community.
That's a good point.

The Left-wing Community in general, does not oppose people who are religious. In fact, the SWP and the RESPECT coalition have outright endorsed the Muslim community. There are organisations like the Catholic Anarchist groups and even in the city where I live a Christian Socialist Choir. Regardless of that, the Marxist movement is based on a material analysis of history that negates the existence of god.

There is a vast part of the left wing community including the majority of class-struggle anarchists and Maoists who outright oppose religion and it's organised institution, based on that Marxist analysis. This board is not indicative of the entire left wing movement around the world or the individuals within it, but it certainly is indicative of the Marxist view of religion.

We do not oppose the right for people to believe in god, we simply find the notion ridiculous and we oppose the institutions created out of it. Institutions which oppress and maintain the system of exploitation.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 07:51 PM
I am against all restriction and robbery of freedom because of political opinion
What if that political opinion directly contradicts or subverts the creation of a communist society?


"opposed ideologies"-forum to "cage" people because they are "supporters" of our "enemy"

Once again, this message board does not exist to maintain the freedoms and rights of every single political persuasion in the entire universe. It exists to offer Left wing people the opportunity to discuss issues and educate themselves.

If we allowed everyone to have the right to roam the board we would end up with Capitalists and fascists regurgitating the same arguments over and over again. This board is not for debate with capitalists or fascists, it is for debate within the left.

However, we have this OI forum so that people can still spew their rubbish and people can still debate with them if they choose. And that's what this is about. Left wing members of this board having the choice to engage with capitalists, and not automatically have to debate them. This board is called RevolutionaryLeft.


No, this should be a site to engage in discussions, learn and perhaps "convert" to leftism in

If we allowed them to post in the entire board then the whole forum would be about trying to convert and there would be no place for new revolutionaries to learn or discuss. The Learning forum would be infested with capitalists like ahhh_monney and the others destroying the ability for us to discuss amongst ourselves.

It would fundamentally change the nature of the board and we don't want that to happen.


Since when was "prejudice against homosexuals" unleftish?

Since the Left became a socially progressive force.


Even though I despise homophobes, I won't witch-hunt them like this.

Nobody is witch hunting anyone. The guidelines of the board are opposed to homophobes. If the CC votes to restrict one, they are restricted. That's how the board operates. If you don't agree with that, then I'm sorry.


perhaps he had odd opinions about homosexuality...but......that's just a point of view, and who gives a shit about that?

I do, as matter of fact. As do other admins, mods and decision making members of this board. Homophobia, as with capitalism are extremely important issues and this board takes the correct attitude towards them.

[The Feral Underclass]

A Free Mind: There is a sticky in this forum asking restricted members to not make threads about their restriction. If you have a problem with your restriction post it in there and an admin will deal with it.

I'm closing this thread.