The Leftist Liberation Front Party

[Clarksist]

A few comrades and I have started a party, the Leftist Liberation Front Party, in hopes of planning actions against capitalism. We are trying to unite the anarchists, communists, socialists, and general marxists. We would like some essays from other leftist, as we just got a site up last night.

The Leftist Liberation Front (site 1) (http://freewebs.com/llfp)
The Leftist Liberation Front (site 2) (http://llfp.tk)

If you are interested please send me something you've written and you name which you want the credit to goto.

Send them to: [email protected]

Thank you for reading this. If you'd like to learn anything about our party please reply to this post. :hammer:

[More Fire for the People]

Your theory is just "capitalism" and that it and you have no program, hell you even lack a draft program.

But hell, please blow something up... perhaps you should also like to include eco-militants in your group.

[MKS]

It does seem that youre more concerned with inclusion than with meaningful action. Trying to unite the "Left" is very hard, and maybe impossible. There has to be clearly defined platform, and plan of action in order for anything of importance to be created.

[Clarksist]

Well our strategy is actually non-violent conversion. We are planning on holding a ceremony in which for about a month this summer, we all designate a place and live in an anarcho-communist retreat. That way we can prove that gift-economies could function.

The "Manifesto" so-to-speak should be up within a few weeks.

[MKS]

Well our strategy is actually non-violent conversion. We are planning on holding a ceremony in which for about a month this summer, we all designate a place and live in an anarcho-communist retreat. That way we can prove that gift-economies could function

Sounds like a hippy commune. And how would one small retreat prove that gift economies would work in a large and complicated capitalist society?

[More Fire for the People]

By promoting anarchism and non-violence you exlcude revolutionaries and communist.

[Clarksist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 01:33 AM
By promoting anarchism and non-violence you exlcude revolutionaries and communist.
Non-violence isn't counter drastic change, its counter violent change. However, we we applaud those who come to the aid of their comrades, be it with violence or non-violence. And by promoting anarchism, we are trying to open people's minds.

MKS, you make a really good point. Our point is, however, that if we can make it work small... we may try to develop it into a more complex system. But most capitalists don't think it can work at all. And yeah, I guess it is like a hippie commune.

[Weatherman Underground]

The differences between communism and anarchism are usually unreconcilable and usually result in the anarchists having their movement co opted by the communists or moderate socialists. The only time it really worked was the cooperation between the Trotskyites and Anarchists in Catalonia, which was mostly successfull because they were being persecuted by a common enemy and their systems were in practice very similar.

[farleft]

I could never call a pacafist a marxist.
All communists believe that at some point there will be armed struggle.
If you do not agree then you are not a communist.

[The Feral Underclass]

Not to sound patronising but your enthusiasm should be commended. However, what I always say when threads like this appear is that there are already plenty of organisations that exist, which have a larger membership, a specific platform and are already engaged in political activities.

If your desire is to unite the left, then creating another political organisation is not going to achieve that. Everyone wants the left to be united, it's a question of arguing that point within existing movements and trying to pose new ways. Your enthusiasm cold come in very handy with a group that already exists and which is struggling for support.

Check out the Political Organisations thread in my signature and have a look. Maybe there is a group which interests you and which shares the same political beliefs.

[Clarksist]

Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 24 2005, 10:59 AM
Not to sound patronising but your enthusiasm should be commended. However, what I always say when threads like this appear is that there are already plenty of organisations that exist, which have a larger membership, a specific platform and are already engaged in political activities.

If your desire is to unite the left, then creating another political organisation is not going to achieve that. Everyone wants the left to be united, it's a question of arguing that point within existing movements and trying to pose new ways. Your enthusiasm cold come in very handy with a group that already exists and which is struggling for support.

Check out the Political Organisations thread in my signature and have a look. Maybe there is a group which interests you and which shares the same political beliefs.
That's true, but where I live (smalltown America) there is no organization here. We would love to join, but nothing around here is Left except... well us. :(

We don't stand so much in opposition to other Communist, Anarchist, or Marxist parties, but with them. I hope I'm making sense here. We decided to unify and get the word out where we live, to hopefully grow and help the movement. Don't think of us as a splinter, but more growth, a strengthening of the movement.

Hope that explained it.

[El_Revolucionario]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2005, 10:52 AM
I could never call a pacafist a marxist.
All communists believe that at some point there will be armed struggle.
If you do not agree then you are not a communist.
If you think only things can be solved with violence first, then you need to rethink things. Sometimes non-violent change is the best option, sometimes it's not. I think if there's a way to lead a revolution without bloodshed, that should be attempted first.

[TC]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2005, 11:16 PM
There has to be clearly defined platform, and plan of action in order for anything of importance to be created.
lol...though it seems like plenty of groups have real defined platforms and 'plans of action' without creating anything. For instance, every american communist and anarchist organization for fhte last twenty years...

[MKS]

lol...though it seems like plenty of groups have real defined platforms and 'plans of action' without creating anything. For instance, every american communist and anarchist organization for fhte last twenty years...

That is true, however there are plenty of examples of the platform, and plan formula creating something lasting. It works not just for socialist/communist but any movement that has ever been started.

My problem with this new group is that it seems more time will be devoted to trying to join two fundamentally different idealogies (anarchism and marxist- communism) than it will working towards the destruction of the systems that oppress.

It sounds more idealist than reality.

[farleft]

Originally posted by El_Revolucionario+May 25 2005, 04:00 AM--> (El_Revolucionario @ May 25 2005, 04:00 AM)
[email protected] 24 2005, 10:52 AM
I could never call a pacafist a marxist.
All communists believe that at some point there will be armed struggle.
If you do not agree then you are not a communist.
If you think only things can be solved with violence first, then you need to rethink things. Sometimes non-violent change is the best option, sometimes it's not. I think if there's a way to lead a revolution without bloodshed, that should be attempted first. [/b]
I agree but its impossible to have a peaceful revolution to bring about Marxism. It's a shame but its true.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 01:48 AM
That's true, but where I live (smalltown America) there is no organization here. We would love to join, but nothing around here is Left except... well us. :(
Maybe you can cantact an organisation you agree with and start your own group for them in your town. That way you will have resources and people with lots of knowledge to support you.


We don't stand so much in opposition to other Communist, Anarchist, or Marxist parties, but with them. I hope I'm making sense here. We decided to unify and get the word out where we live, to hopefully grow and help the movement. Don't think of us as a splinter, but more growth, a strengthening of the movement.

Te best way to do this is to contact an existing organisaiton and talk to them about starting a group of your own. If you contacted NEFAC for example, you could tell them that you want to start your own Federation in your town, how can they help you. Or you could contact the Socialist Party and tell them you want to start your own Socialist Party branch and what support can they give.

[The Feral Underclass]

Clarkist: Out of interest, where do you live?

[Clarksist]

Harrison, Arkansas.

A pretty small town with absolutely no true Leftist groups.

[El_Revolucionario]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 02:07 PM
Harrison, Arkansas.

A pretty small town with absolutely no true Leftist groups.
How many people live in this town?

[El_Revolucionario]

Excellent site. I applaud you starting a leftist group in such a small town (I googled it, seems you live in a town of only 12,000).

[Clarksist]

12,000 soon to be radical Leftist (God willing) :) .



My problem with this new group is that it seems more time will be devoted to trying to join two fundamentally different idealogies (anarchism and marxist- communism) than it will working towards the destruction of the systems that oppress.


We are uniting to take down capitalism. We believe communist and anarchist societies can live side by side. They aren't different enough to destroy each other post-revolution.

The main goal is taking down capitalism, and by having anarchists and communists fighting side by side you strengthen the fight.

[More Fire for the People]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 08:07 AM
Harrison, Arkansas.

A pretty small town with absolutely no true Leftist groups.
...
I live in Lincoln, Arkansas and Harrison has 12,152 people by last census, while my home town has only about 2,000 people. Democrats are seen as radical leftist eco-communist.

So how is it being at the home of the KKK?

[Clarksist]

So how is it being at the home of the KKK?

I hate it here. And that thing about liberalism... they think that Bill Clinton was a Leftist revolutionary. No perspective.

[Spartacus2002]

i would join in two seconds if i thought you guys were real the thing is our generation seems to have a lot of times for meetings arguing and talking but noone does anything. all they do is talk we need true action.

[OleMarxco]

I suggest starting a group with another name (For example, THE RED AVENGERS as my suggestion is...al'tho as Butch Coolidge says, names don't mean shit, but a good name is a good inspiration) and have it be a secret guerrila group fighting Capitalism trough various forms of sabotage, not unlike Project Mayhem but perhaps not as fascistic-like. Oh, and you'll get to wear fresh red-ninja suits with yellow hammer & sickles on! FOH REAL - and our hideout would be in an abandoned house's cellar :P

To be serious, I've had thoughts about getting that down sometime - If I could get down with someone to plan stuff aroun' :D

[workersunity]

i would say the differences are too big, but hey props anyways