Fidel Castro

[redscot]

Can I please have peoples opinions on Fidel Castro?

[bunk]

he's ok

[workersunity]

he has helped cuba, more than bush has helped america

[Roses in the Hospital]

Not necessarily as Marxist as some would prefer, but he deserves respect just for the way he stands up the the US. I only hope Cuba can survive Castro's death...

[OleMarxco]

...and with Rahul, begin to get "drawn back" with heavy force to the road to Communism ;)

[ZACKist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 10:34 PM
...and with Rahul, begin to get "drawn back" with heavy force to the road to Communism ;)

Raúl has been mooted as a possible successor to his brother. As Armed Forces minister, he controls much of the Military Forces in Cuba, prompting speculation that if he were to launch a power grab after his brother's death, it might be difficult to stop him.

Raúl Castro, however, is widely regarded as more hardline than his brother — along with Ernesto 'Che' Guevara, he was one of only two communists involved in the original Granma expedition.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%FAl_Castro"

Hmm.

[Super Mario Conspiracy]

I think that Castro is one of the few "known" men of the Left who, deep inside, really wants a Communist society. I believe that the reason for him not releasing all "grips of power" to the people is because he fears that Cuba will reverse back to capitalism. Honestly, I would also be afraid of this (if I were in Castro's shoes).

The reasons why Cuba would turn back to capitalism once Castro is dead can be many. One, for example, is Cuba's (and the world's) greatest enemy - the United States. I have no doubts that they will push for a capitalist society once Castro's time is up.

Another reason could be that the world around Cuba is capitalist. Cuba's black market doesn't help either.

Another problem is that while Castro's brother may be more hardline than Fidel himself, he is not much younger than Fidel is. I'm worried what will happen when both Castro brothers pass away.

[Che1990]

I personally love Castro, and so do the Cuban people says my science teacher who's been there (lucky fucker). Yeah my science teacher is a socialist, much to the annoyance of the guy I sit next to in science who is a right-wing conservative fascist selfish bastard. He's always calling me a 'Commie bastard' until I tell him about the dangers of capitalism, then he shuts up. But yeah I love Castro.

[bunk]

If Fidel gave more power to the workers and more control then when he dies it will be almost impossible to revert back to capitalism, as it is i think it's pretty dangerous position for Cuba

[Super Mario Conspiracy]

If Fidel gave more power to the workers and more control then when he dies it will be almost impossible to revert back to capitalism, as it is i think it's pretty dangerous position for Cuba.

Perhaps. But then we have the United States on their doorsteps, and they won't hesitate to try. They want to exploit them, they don't care about what kind of system they live under or how good the life is in Cuba.

[SpeCtrE]

what really matter is what your opinion is,

Why should you care for ours.

...learn to stand for yourself, and live life to its fullest

[OleMarxco]

Riiiiight...Says the one who associates with a Commie Club to have a leftist movement stand for you :rolleyes:

[Dre_Guevara]

Fidel Castro deserves all the respect in the world. To me is probably one of the world's wisest man.

I think Jean Paul-Satre described him best here:
"Castro is at the same time the island, the men, the cattle, and the earth. He is the whole island."

Viva Fidel! :castro:

[maoist_revolution]

Fidel castro when he started the revolution he was not a communist when they took power they had meetings then decided to go the communist way I think Raul Castro and Che Guevara pushed him that way but he was been true to the communist way since he took power which is very impressive he is the longest serving leader and the people of Cuba have not tried a revolution to overthrough him they know they need him.

Cubans do not want to become capitilists its proberly their greatest fear.

If america tries to invade them they will have to kill every last person but their will be a world out cry for them to be charged with war crimes what is Cubas crime?

Fidel is a brillant leader and im sure they have someone lined up to take his places when the sad day comes when he dies.

[cult.45]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 11:17 PM
Fidel castro when he started the revolution he was not a communist when they took power they had meetings then decided to go the communist way I think Raul Castro and Che Guevara pushed him that way but he was been true to the communist way since he took power which is very impressive he is the longest serving leader and the people of Cuba have not tried a revolution to overthrough him they know they need him.

Cubans do not want to become capitilists its proberly their greatest fear.

If america tries to invade them they will have to kill every last person but their will be a world out cry for them to be charged with war crimes what is Cubas crime?

Fidel is a brillant leader and im sure they have someone lined up to take his places when the sad day comes when he dies.

First of all, holy fuck learn some grammar. That whole first paragraph had one period.

Secondly, USA cannot (legally) invade Cuba, after the Cuban Missile Crisis, but they can and will definitely pull something out of the hat to try to sway Cuba to capitalism.

[Che1990]

The USA are always trying to do that to Cuba because they see socialism as a threat to their society.

[Dre_Guevara]

First of all, holy fuck learn some grammar. That whole first paragraph had one period.

Who cares? You got what he was saying, didn't you? :rolleyes:

[Colombia]

How limited are the people's freedom in Cuba? Anyone got statistics on this because the opposition makes it sound like it is the worst thing in the world but they obviously say such a thing.

[Che1990]

I dunno, I thought they had quite a lot of freedom but I don't know. The only reason there is a lot of opposition is because it is a socialist country and it's only 90miles from a huge capitalist state that want to see Cuba turn capitalist themselves which won't happen while Castro is alive. The USA always exploit socialist countries because they see it as a 'threat'.

[Hiero]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2005, 03:59 PM
How limited are the people's freedom in Cuba? Anyone got statistics on this because the opposition makes it sound like it is the worst thing in the world but they obviously say such a thing.
You can't have statistics on levels of freedom.

[Dre_Guevara]

Originally posted by Hiero+May 29 2005, 06:23 AM--> (Hiero @ May 29 2005, 06:23 AM)
[email protected] 29 2005, 03:59 PM
How limited are the people's freedom in Cuba? Anyone got statistics on this because the opposition makes it sound like it is the worst thing in the world but they obviously say such a thing.
You can't have statistics on levels of freedom. [/b]
I agree.

[Freak]

Here is a link to how Cubans fare under Fidel Castro as opposed to the US.
http://nene.essortment.com/lifeincuba_rmuy.htm

Freak

[red-gers]

[Here is a link to how Cubans fare under Fidel Castro as opposed to the US. ]

thats a very americanised version of it. your link says "it’s difficult to find ingredients for traditional Cuban cuisine (pork, fish, garlic, cooking oil) because food production is in shambles and they can’t afford to import. " that might be more to do with the economic blockade than food production. comparing the us , one of the richest countries in the world, with cuba a economically poor country, i dont think is helpful. i was there last summer on a work camp and the cuban workers seemed to be right behind castro although there were a lot of critisisms of the police and army being corrupt

[Secondly, USA cannot (legally) invade Cuba]

the us military do it every day . Guantanamo naval base ???

this is my first post so sorry if i'm not doing the quote thing right :blink:

[canucksr]

Castro seems to be a wonderful leader for Cuba. What happens after his death is questionable. Castro has visited my country, Canada in the past, most recently in 2000 for the funeral of one of our former Prime Ministers. (Pierre Trudeau). It was a bizarre event because the Canadian protocol minister seated Castro next to former President Carter of the U.S.A. Canada has always had open and friendly relations with Cuba and we trade and travel there, so Cuba isn't seen in the same light as the American media portrayal as a evil country.

[CrazyModerate]

If you are in the majority of Americans (middle class) you are living a better life than the average Cuban.

[Freak]

If Cuba is such a great place to live, why do tens of thousands of Cubans risk their lives on makeshift life rafts each year to come to the US? Castro may not be that bad, but his portrayal of how wonderful Cuban life is is propaganda.

[red-gers]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 01:34 PM
If Cuba is such a great place to live, why do tens of thousands of Cubans risk their lives on makeshift life rafts each year to come to the US? Castro may not be that bad, but his portrayal of how wonderful Cuban life is is propaganda.
cuba is not a utopia. it is a third world country in terms of economic wealth and the cubans are the first to tell you that they are a poor country. however within that poverty they are able to educate all their citizens to the standard of a rich country and beyond. yes people leave cuba for miami for many reasons - family, a better life and political ideology. i'm not sure its 10's of thousand every year as the population is only 11million. but people do leave cuba and as there are restrictions they quite often have to leave illegally, most cubans that leave head for miami - the nearest port but political ideology may not be the only explanation if it were there would be more migration to some of the other carribean islands. i think economic migration is a large factor. i dont know about the restrictions that the cuban government impose. the people i spoke to justified it by saying it was to stop counter revolutionaries backed by the us government. this may be paranoia but as the us government announced they were puting $56 million aside to oust castro, i think i would be paranoid too. and finally ALL governments use propaganda as do All political groups to get across their message for good or bad

[gewehr_3]

under batista the cuban people were very poor and the country was run by gangs but now every citizen has a home, a refrigerator, an air conditioner, and a television. and no one dies of starvation like the homeless in the US

[Severian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 07:34 AM
If Cuba is such a great place to live, why do tens of thousands of Cubans risk their lives on makeshift life rafts each year to come to the US? Castro may not be that bad, but his portrayal of how wonderful Cuban life is is propaganda.
Pick another Latin American country, and tell everyone there that they can have legal U.S. residence the second they set foot on U.S. soil. See how many migrants you get.

[CrazyModerate]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 11:13 PM
under batista the cuban people were very poor and the country was run by gangs but now every citizen has a home, a refrigerator, an air conditioner, and a television. and no one dies of starvation like the homeless in the US
Thats a valid point. The fact that the United States has been strangling Cuba for nearly 50 years may also explain their poverty.

[Abstrakt]

Wow...I'm guessing the guy who made the ten's of thousand's comment forgot about the incredible amount of homeless and hungry in the U.S. Or maybe the C.I.A. and other organizations that ship out, and pay journalists to oppose Castro. Of course your going to have bans..Especially people who are paid to deliberately fuck with Castro and the people...By another country! Let's just look the other way when a scandal(ex. the milk essay that came out a few days ago) get's shut down.

I know this is off topic...but I was just thinking...The Secret Service...The acronym is S.S. Familiar? Sorry...Just a random thought.

[CrazyModerate]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 01:47 AM
Wow...I'm guessing the guy who made the ten's of thousand's comment forgot about the incredible amount of homeless and hungry in the U.S. Or maybe the C.I.A. and other organizations that ship out, and pay journalists to oppose Castro. Of course your going to have bans..Especially people who are paid to deliberately fuck with Castro and the people...By another country! Let's just look the other way when a scandal(ex. the milk essay that came out a few days ago) get's shut down.

I know this is off topic...but I was just thinking...The Secret Service...The acronym is S.S. Familiar? Sorry...Just a random thought.
Any state organized police is familiar to the SS, as the SS was a state organized police.

Also, is it true that the reason for Cuba's poor economy is the American interferences with Cuba.

[danny android]

as far as i can tell about fidel castro he is a geniunly good guy. he seems to have created some form of equality in cuba and from what i can see his people love him. it is true that cuba is a poor nation but i have had to tell many of my peers that this is NOT a result of communism but a result of capitolist embargos on it by larger more rich countries (the US *cough*)

[4514]

i also have alot of time and respect for Fidel.
has anyone seen the oliver stone doco "g-comandante"
its a pretty good insight into fidel and how he is.
4514
rank and file

[The American Bolshevik]

I know several Cuban immigrants to the US who said that 'The only reason I moved to America, was because the American government refuses us to see our families in America. It is not Castro who is stopping us, it is Bush' In so many words.