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Djehuti
17th May 2005, 17:03
You better read it through! :ph34r:
If you wish, you can browsed your way through the text with nice pictures at:
http://www.prole.info/introduction/intro_0.html


WORK . COMMUNITY . POLITICS . WAR

Everyone is asked their opinion about every detail in order to prevent them from having one about the totality.
--Raoul Vaneigem

We look around us and see a world beyond our control.

Our daily struggle to survive takes place against an immense and constantly shifting backdrop

moving from natural disaster to terrorist attack from new diet to new famine from celebrity sex scandal to political corruption scandal from religious war to economic miracle from tantalizing new advertisement to clichs on tv complaining about the government from suggestions on how to be the ideal lover to suggestions on how to keep sports fans from rioting from new police shootings to new health problems

The same processes are at work everywhere

...in democratic and in totalitarian governments in corporations and in mom n pop businesses... in cheeseburgers and in tofu in opera, in country music and in hip hop in every country and in every language in prisons, in schools, in hospitals, in factories, in office towers, in war zones and in grocery stores...

Something is feeding off our lives and spitting back images of them in our faces.

That something is the product of our own activity our everyday working lives sold hour after hour, week after week, generation after generation.

We dont have property or a business we can make money from, so we are forced to sell our time and energy to someone else. We are the modern day working classthe proles.


WORK

"Capital is dead labour, that, vampire-like, only lives by sucking living labour,and lives the more, the more labour it sucks."
Karl Marx

We dont work because we want to. We work because we have no other way to make money. We sell our time and energy to a boss in order to buy the things we need to survive.

We are brought together with other workers and assigned different tasks. We specialize in different aspects of the work and repeat these tasks over and over again. Our time at work is not really part of our lives. It is dead time controlled by our bosses and managers. During our time at work we make things that our bosses can sell. These things are objects like cotton shirts, computers and skyscrapers or qualities like clean floors and healthy patients or services like having a bus take you where you want to go, having a waiter take your order or having someone call you at home to try to get you to buy things you dont need. The work is not done because of what it produces. We do it to get paid, and the boss pays us for it to make a profit.

At the end of the day the bosses re-invest the money we make them, and enlarge their businesses. Our work is stored up in the things our bosses own and sellcapital. They are always looking for new ways to store up our activity in things, new markets to sell them to, and new people with nothing to sell but their time and energy to work for them. What we get from work is enough money to pay for rent, food, clothes and beerenough to keep us coming back to work.

When were not at work, we spend time traveling to or from work, preparing for work, resting up because were exhausted from work or getting drunk to forget about work. The only thing worse than work, is not having it. Then we waste our weeks away looking for work, without getting paid for it. If welfare is available, it is a pain-in-the-ass to get and is never as much as working. The constant threat of unemployment is what keeps us going to work everyday. And our work is the basis of this society. The power our bosses get from it expands every time we work. It is the dominant force in every country in the world.

At work we are under the control of our bosses, and of the markets they sell to. But an invisible hand imposes a work-like discipline and pointlessness on the rest of our lives as well. Life seems like a kind of show we watch from the outside, but have no control over. All sort of other activities tend to become as alienating and boring as work: housework, schoolwork, leisure. Thats capitalism.


ANTI-WORK

Of course, the capitalists are very much satisfied with the capitalist system. Why shouldn't they be? They get rich by it.
--Alexander Berkman

Work is experienced very differently depending on which side of it youre on. For our bosses, work is the way that they get their money to make more money. For us, work is a miserable way to survive. The less the bosses pay us, the less we make. The faster they can get us to work, the harder we have to work. Our interests are opposed, and there is a constant struggle between bosses and workers at workand in the rest of the society based on work. The more we pay in rent or bus fare, the more we have to work to pay our rent or bus fare.

The current state of wages, benefits, hours and working conditions as well as politics, art and technology is a result of the current state of this class struggle. Simply standing up for our own interests in this struggle, is the starting point of undermining capitalism.


COMMUNITY

Well, it is about time that every rebel wakes up to the fact that "the people" and the working class have nothing in common.
--Joe Hill

Civilization is deeply divided. Most of us spend most of our time working and are mostly poor, while the owners, who are mostly rich, manage and profit off our work. All the communities and institutions of society are built up around this basic division. There are racial, cultural and language divisions and communities. There is division and community around sex and age. There is the community of the nation and citizenship, as well as the division between nations and those with and without citizenship. We are divided and united around religion and ideology. Some of these identities have been around for millennia. Some are a direct result of the way we work today. But they are all now organized around capital. They are all used to help our bosses accumulate more of our dead time stored up in things, and to keep the basic division of this society from tearing it apart. Poor people from one country can be made to identify with their bosses from the same country and can be made to fight poor people from other countries. Workers have a harder time organizing a strike with workers who look different and speak a different language, especially if one group thinks its better than the other. These divisions and communities are reflected and reflect the division of labor at work.

While these divisions and exclusive communities are being pushed on us from one side, an all-inclusive human community is pushed on us from the other. This community is just as imaginary and false. It denies the basic division of society. Business owners run the government and the media, the schools and prisons, the welfare offices and the police. We have our lives run by them. The newspapers and television put forward their view of the world. Schools teach about the great (or unfortunate) history of their society and produce a spectrum of graduates and dropouts fit for different kinds of work. The government provides services to keep their society running smoothly. And when all else fails, they have the police, the prisons and the army.

This is not our community.


ANTI-COMMUNITY

Such power as the bourgeoisie still possesses in this period resides in the proletariats lack of autonomy and independence of spirit.
--Anton Pannekoek

They organize us against each other, but we can organize ourselves against them.

The whole point of talking about class and the proles is to insist on the very basic way in which people from different communities have essentially similar experiences, and to show that people from the same communities should in fact hate each other. This is the starting point to fighting the existing communities. When we begin to fight for our own interests we see that others are doing the same thing. Prejudices fall away, and our anger is directed where it belongs. We are not weak because we are divided. We are divided because we are weak.

The existing communities become irrelevant as they are attacked, and they are attacked by becoming irrelevant. Racism and sexism are unappealing, when working men and women of different races are fighting their class enemies side by side. And that fight becomes more effective by involving people from different communities. There will be no need for a stand-in for everything that can be bought and soldmoney--when there is no need to measure work time stored in those things. This could only happen when we make and do things because there is a need for them and not in order to exchange them. There will be no need for a government to manage society, when society is not divided between management and workforcewhen people can run their lives themselves. There will be no need for national or racial communitiesand there could be a human communitywhen society is not divided into rich and poor. The way to create these conditions is to fight the existing conditions.

This tendency to create community by fighting against the conditions of our livesand therefore against work, money, exchange, borders, nations, governments, police, religion, and racehas at times been called communism.


POLITICS

The more we are governed, the less we are free.
--The Alarm (anarchist newspaper from Chicago in the 1880s)

The government is the model for political activity. Politicians representing different countries, regions, or communities battle with each other. We are encouraged to support the leaders we disagree with least, and we're never really surprised when they screw us over. All a politicians working class background or radical ideals are worthless once they begin to govern. It doesnt matter who is in government, government has its own logic. The fact that this society is divided into classes with opposing interests means that it is always at risk of tearing itself apart. The government is there to make sure that doesnt happen. Whether the government is a dictatorship or a democracy, it holds all the guns and will use them against its own population to make sure that we keep going to work.

Usually they prefer to maintain the status quo peacefully though. Some politicians propose to do things that arent straightforwardly good for business (such as raising the minimum wage). These politicians need to be able to mobilize the working class in controlled ways, to put pressure on more business-oriented politicians. They present themselves to working people as their voice in politics, but their power is only tolerated insofar as they are successful at controlling us.

Not that long ago, an extremely unstable situation in a particular country could be diffused by nationalizing all of a countrys industries, creating a police state, and calling it communism. This kind of capitalism proved to be less efficient and less flexible than good old-fashioned free market capitalism. With the fall of the Soviet Union, there is no longer a Red Army to march in and stabilize countries in this way, and Communist parties around the world are becoming simple social democrats.

A working class political party is a contradiction in termsnot because the membership of a particular party cant be largely working class, but because the most it can do is give the working class a voice in politics. It lets our representatives put forward ideas on how our bosses should run this society--how they can make money and keep us under control. Whether they are advocating nationalization or privatization, more welfare or more police (or both), the programs of political parties are different strategies for managing capitalism.

Unfortunately politics exists outside of government as wellin guerilla groups who want to become the government, in professional activists and unions. Contrary to what leftists are always telling us, the unions today are not there in order to protect the interests of working people. Their role is to negotiate with management. They function as enterprises. The product they sell to management is a workforce that is ready to work. This means that they have to disperse us when we start to fight back in the workplace. Sometimes they do this by negotiating wage-increases, other times by selling us out. Unions, like politicians, want to place themselves between workers and bosses and be the mediators, the negotiators, the means of communication, the representatives, and ultimately the peacemakers. Politicians always call on us to vote, to sit back and let the organizer negotiate, to fall in line behind the leaders and the specialists in a kind of passive participation.

Political groups are bureaucratic. They tend to mirror the structures of work where activity is controlled from the outside and to create specialists in politics. They are built on a division between leaders and led, between representatives and represented, between organizers and organized. This is not a bad choice of how to set up organizations, to be remedied with a large dose of participatory democracy. It is a direct result of what political groups and activities are trying to do--to manage a part of capitalism.

The only thing that interests us about politics is its destruction.


ANTI-POLITICS

"Anarchism is not a beautiful utopia, nor an abstract philosophical idea, it is a social movement of the labouring masses"
--Dyelo Truda (anarchist journal from Paris in the 1920s)

When we start to fight against the conditions of our lives, a completely different kind of activity appears. We do not look for a politician to come change things for us. We do it ourselves, with other working class people.

Whenever this kind of working class resistance breaks out, politicians try to extinguish it in a flood of petitions, lobbying and election campaigns. But when we are fighting for ourselves, our activity looks completely different from theirs. We take property away from landlords and use it for ourselves. We use militant tactics against our bosses and end up fighting with the police. We form groups where everyone takes part in the activity, and there is no division between leaders and followers. We do not fight for our leaders, for our bosses or for our country. We fight for ourselves. This is not the ultimate form of democracy. We are imposing our needs on society without debateneeds that are directly contrary to the interests and wishes of rich people everywhere. There is no way for us to speak on equal terms with this society. This tendency of working class struggles to go outside and against the government and politics, and to create new forms of organization that do not put our faith in anything other than our own ability, has at times been called anarchism.


WAR

"Let us devastate the avenues where the wealthy live.
--Lucy Parsons

So were in a wara class war.

There is no set of ideas, proposals, and organizational strategies that can bring victory. There is no solution outside of winning the war.

So long as they have the initiative, we are separated, and passive. Our response to the conditions of our lives is individual: quitting our jobs, moving to neighborhoods with cheaper rent, joining subcultures and gangs, suicide, buying lottery tickets, drug abuse and alcoholism, going to church. Their world looks like the only possibility. Any hope for change is lived on an imaginary levelseparated from our everyday lives. Its business as usual, with all the crisis and destruction that this implies.

When we go on the offensive we begin to recognize each other and to fight collectively. We use the ways that society depends on us to disrupt it. We strike, sabotage, riot, desert, mutiny and take over property. We create organizations in order to amplify and coordinate our activities. All kinds of new possibilities open up. We grow more daring and more aggressive in pursuing our own class interests. These do not lie in forming a new government, or becoming the new boss. Our interests lie in ending our own way of lifeand therefore the society that is based on that way of life.

We are the working class who want to abolish work and class. We are the community of people who want to tear the existing community apart. Our political program is to destroy politics. In order to do that, we have to push the subversive tendencies that exist today until we have completely remade society everywhere. This has at times been called revolution.

http://www.prole.info/wcpw.html

STI
17th May 2005, 21:00
I must say, it's a lot better with the pictures.

workersunity
17th May 2005, 21:05
Wasnt that more of a view of anarchism, i guess a lot of it applies to marxism though

Jaha
17th May 2005, 23:46
i found it very interesting.

i do think that a lot of it was more anarchist.

but anyways.... i dunno if it would grab the interest of anyone who is not already anarchist or communist, or a wannabe.

it does do a reasonably good job at explaining left-wing revolutionary concepts.

Djehuti
18th May 2005, 00:27
It is communist. But there is both marxist communists and anarchist communist involved in the project. If we check out what kind of sites prole.info links (http://www.prole.info/links.html) to, we get a pretty clear picture on where they stand. They are clearly inspired by both class struggle anarcho-commies and Left communists. The french left communist theorist Gilles Dauv (pseudonym: Jean Barrot) seems to be a major favorite at prole.info, and I really love that dude. :) Check him out.



"but anyways.... i dunno if it would grab the interest of anyone who is not already anarchist or communist, or a wannabe."

I think it might. Not perfectly, yet better then most other commie texts out there.

enigma2517
18th May 2005, 00:39
Yes that is by far the best media presentation I've seen on the subject. As an introduction its great. However, I found it equally as informing since it helped consolidate all of the information I've learned in the past into a much more simple and concise format. Following this model will make leftism much easier to explain to friends and collegues.

More Fire for the People
18th May 2005, 02:05
I stopped reading it after the bullshit started which did not take long.

STI
18th May 2005, 03:47
Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2005, 01:05 AM
I stopped reading it after the bullshit started which did not take long.
LOL UR SO KOOL WIT UR NOT BRINGIN UP N E XAMPLES LOL!!!!11

OleMarxco
18th May 2005, 16:01
Want examples? I'll give you examples. Here you go(t)!
"WORK . COMMUNITY . POLITICS . WAR"

(Sounds like goddamn fuckin' fascism parole-parade!) Everyone is asked their opinion about....." fraglSG#"%EDSDSX read error
......Bullshit! *further text from here blurs and distorts, transcending into a same pile of teh fuckin' bullshit*
We don't NEED to know WHY this crap is bad, the problem is how to get rid of it! BAH! ;)

But as for the GRAPHIC version, heheh, I liked THESE ones,
as a good matter-of-fact pamphlets on "how-to-turn-to-a-guerrila?":
http://www.prole.info/introduction/anti-community_1.gif
See that Waiter how quickly his ass turns to (No, not Vinegar, but) a rebel
when he realizes the truth. And...
http://www.prole.info/introduction/anti-community_7.gif
The lil'kid who draws a hammer and a sickle in the background! Whoo, see the influence spread! Heheheheh :rolleyes:

redstar2000
18th May 2005, 19:04
Originally posted by Rotmutter+May 17 2005, 08:05 PM--> (Rotmutter @ May 17 2005, 08:05 PM) I stopped reading it after the bullshit started which did not take long. [/b]
Want to be specific about that?


OleMarxo
We don't NEED to know WHY this crap is bad, the problem is how to get rid of it! BAH!

Alas, the "we" you speak of is very small. The overwhelming majority of the people at the present time do need to learn "why this crap is bad".

I thought this little pamphlet was a very good introduction to the question...if I had a printer, I might print out a few copies myself.

Indeed, I could think of a few members of this board who might benefit from such a basic explanation. :lol:

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More Fire for the People
18th May 2005, 21:50
We are divided and united around religion and ideology. Some of these identities have been around for millennia. Some are a direct result of the way we work today. But they are all now organized around capital.
This came off kind of iffy, I mean how can love and such intangible concepts like god, metaphysics, etc. be centered around capital?


A working class political party is a contradiction in termsnot because the membership of a particular party cant be largely working class, but because the most it can do is give the working class a voice in politics. It lets our representatives put forward ideas on how our bosses should run this society--how they can make money and keep us under control. Whether they are advocating nationalization or privatization, more welfare or more police (or both), the programs of political parties are different strategies for managing capitalism.
This is a direct conflict with the concept of a vanguard party, a revolution cannot be random acts of terrorism as this article seems to state but it must be a organized mass rebellion.


Unfortunately politics exists outside of government as wellin guerilla groups who want to become the government, in professional activists and unions. Contrary to what leftists are always telling us, the unions today are not there in order to protect the interests of working people.
Labor unions were created in order to protect the interest of the working class not to negotiate some corporatist deal as this article states.

Labor unions keep the workers protected from government (regardless of the mode of production) abuse and retard capitalist exploitation.

redstar2000
19th May 2005, 02:01
Originally posted by Rotmutter
This came off kind of iffy, I mean how can love and such intangible concepts like god, metaphysics, etc. be centered around capital?

Because capital shapes them for its own purposes.

Examples: the wedding business (the more you spend, the longer your marriage will last); televangelism (piety leads to prosperity); post-modernism (since reality is unknowable, we cannot change it).


This is a direct conflict with the concept of a vanguard party...

Yep...as it should be. :D


Labor unions were created in order to protect the interest of the working class, not to negotiate some corporatist deal as this article states.

Labor unions keep the workers protected from government (regardless of the mode of production) abuse and retard capitalist exploitation.

Well, it's what they were "supposed to do"...in recent times, however, they haven't been doing that -- at least in the developed capitalist countries.

And have been losing members as a result.

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