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El_Revolucionario
16th May 2005, 22:46
is this movie pro hitler or anti hitler? I don't want to watch a movie that promotes fascism. I think I would probably puke because I would not want to see the face of a murderer bastard who murdered millions of people.

Bolshevist
16th May 2005, 22:59
It is not pro or anti facist. It displays Hitler's last days very accurately. Go watch it.

gonzo
25th May 2005, 13:17
It is really a good picture of Hitler, but it isn´t perfect.

Edelweiss
25th May 2005, 13:28
It displays Hitler's last days very accurately.

How do you wanna know? have you been there?

Zingu
25th May 2005, 14:30
Its an excellent movie, it showed the insanity of the Hitler's elite, still deluded with the idea of final victory while their own "weak" (Hitler belived that the ones left didn't deserve to live) German people were suffering the brunt of Russian retribution. While they dined in their bunker, German civilians were being blown to bits by artillery fire outside. :angry:

Edelweiss
25th May 2005, 17:13
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2005, 03:30 PM
Its an excellent movie, it showed the insanity of the Hitler's elite, still deluded with the idea of final victory while their own "weak" (Hitler belived that the ones left didn't deserve to live) German people were suffering the brunt of Russian retribution. While they dined in their bunker, German civilians were being blown to bits by artillery fire outside. :angry:
That reply proofs to me exactly why I have a problem with that movie as a German.
The movie shows the "poor, misguided German people" and the "evil, insane Nazi elite" on the other side. The movie is aggravating the myth of the German right-wing about the Germans as a victim of both the "evil Russians" and of a insane Nazi leadership. As if the Nazi leadership was completly seperated from the people, and acting on it's own. The truth is, most Germans dis support Hitler until the very end, the "total war" which most once supported, came back to them in a way they deserved. The German people as a whole made the Nazi dicatorship possible, passivly or actively, and no German should ever forget that.
"Der Untergang" is a load of bullshit.

Deutsche Täter sind keine Opfer - German culprits are no victims!

bolshevik butcher
25th May 2005, 18:55
Sorry, but isn't it worth noting all the german socialists that were rounded up and killed, they never supported hitler. Neither did the jews, not all germans suported hitler.

Edelweiss
25th May 2005, 19:35
Originally posted by Clenched [email protected] 25 2005, 07:55 PM
Sorry, but isn't it worth noting all the german socialists that were rounded up and killed, they never supported hitler. Neither did the jews, not all germans suported hitler.
I haven't said that all Germans supported Hitler, but a broad majority did..

bolshevik butcher
25th May 2005, 21:11
Originally posted by Malte+May 25 2005, 06:35 PM--> (Malte @ May 25 2005, 06:35 PM)
Clenched [email protected] 25 2005, 07:55 PM
Sorry, but isn't it worth noting all the german socialists that were rounded up and killed, they never supported hitler. Neither did the jews, not all germans suported hitler.
I haven't said that all Germans supported Hitler, but a broad majority did.. [/b]
Sorry, i mis interpreted what you said. This may well be true, but wasn't his governmnet a minoraty government?