Tupac!

[Latin America]

Anyone around here know who is 2pac or Tupac the Rap singer, he died in 1996 right? I was talking to couple of my friends and I hear he was alive living in Cuba?!?!? Anyone knows something about this??? :blink:

[RedAnarchist]

One of his relatives, Assata Shakur, is living in Cuba.

[bunk]

Don't believe the lies, he is proven dead.

[Abstrakt]

He was over rated anyways. One song = Respect Women. Next Song = "I Get Around". He was really inconsistant. I threw away my Pac C.D.'s a while ago.

Oh yeah. He's dead.

[Hampton]

You act as if you have never held to opposing thoughts or opinions at the same time.

He be dead man but his music is still around.

[Anarcho-Communist]

hes deffinately dead and his music not all that great! and his music is still coming out!

[Konqwest]

I believe he is gay, but his music really is great, and his poetry is even better

[RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2005, 10:24 PM
I believe he is gay, but his music really is great, and his poetry is even better
he was a hetrosexual ..(dont woirry i know what u mean).. but u shouldnt use derogatory trems like that and pac was geat he had a conscience that was apernt when he spat and he had a vocie that would tuch you .. evry one who growns up haveing a hard life will always feel his music... the good die younge but their spirt live on forever

[bunk]

Pac was an average rapper hyped up by the media and popular culture

[Black Dagger]

I believe he is gay

Explain.

[Konqwest]

Originally posted by Black [email protected] 17 2005, 04:36 PM

I believe he is gay

Explain.
wow sorry about saying he was gay... I meant to say i believe he is gone

[Anarcho-Communist]

hahaha he was overrated and that would have been one of the main reasons he was shot!

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by Konqwest+May 18 2005, 04:56 AM--> (Konqwest @ May 18 2005, 04:56 AM)
Black [email protected] 17 2005, 04:36 PM

I believe he is gay

Explain.
wow sorry about saying he was gay... I meant to say i believe he is gone [/b]
You said 'gay' instead of 'gone'? o0
Freudian-slip-of-the-year...

[SpeCtrE]

Tupac wasn't that Good.

Bone Thugs n Harmony are the best.

and he is proven dead, unless he made a comeback as BlaCc_ JeSuS

[bunk]

a tribe called quest are the best ;)

[Hampton]

hahaha he was overrated and that would have been one of the main reasons he was shot!

Spam spam spam how you love the spam.

[Eastside Revolt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2005, 03:50 PM
He was over rated anyways. One song = Respect Women. Next Song = "I Get Around". He was really inconsistant. I threw away my Pac C.D.'s a while ago.

Oh yeah. He's dead.
Explain to me how being promiscuous, contradicts having respect for the opposite sex?

Lose the Christian morals fool.

[Latin America]

RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT Posted on May 17 2005, 03:39 AM
he was a hetrosexual


WHAT??? :blink:

[RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT]

Originally posted by Latin [email protected] 19 2005, 02:44 PM


RABBIT - THE - CUBAN - MILITANT Posted on May 17 2005, 03:39 AM
he was a hetrosexual


WHAT??? :blink:
Kongwest said he was gay..

[Redmau5]

Originally posted by Josh of [email protected] 18 2005, 07:09 PM
a tribe called quest are the best ;)
You were calling 2pac overrated and you think a tribe called quest are the best....that says alot about your rap music tastes.

[bunk]

hmmmmm i don't understand. Have you listened to DITC, Wu tang clan, COC, a tribe called quest yet? Get educated

[bunk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2005, 10:51 PM

You were calling 2pac overrated and you think a tribe called quest are the best....that says alot about your rap music tastes.
Real hip hop isn't pretending to be a thug

If you noticed the smilie signalling that it was a lighthearted comment based on the fact i had just seen de la soul live and they had mixed all of ATCQ's best songs; and it was amazing.

[el nicaraguense]

tupac was good rapper. i dont know why he would live in Cuba. COsta Rica is better. mabey place where no1 goes like my country NIcaragua you can be president bush live there no1 would know u.

[Xian]

Tupac changed mine, and a lot of other people's lives.

Regardless of whether you think Tupac Shakur was good, bad, overhyped, a jerk, a maniac...You cannot deny his heart. He put so much of himself into his art, and he made everything he made so filled with emotion. The love he felt for the world is unconditional and infinite. His whole life, he was addicted to drugs and alcohol, all because he was worried that the world was a sad place, and that people were still in suffering. He even shaved his hair balled because hair would fall out, due to stress, if he let it grow! He grew up in the slums, and saw horrable things happen to friends and family. He wanted to end this poverty and pain and make things better for his people.
But more importantly, you could FEEL him in his music. Whenever I listen, it's like he's in the room with me, telling me that there is hope, and that we can change and that everyone can be free. But he's also telling me his sadness and his depression. He's telling me the pain of having to watch a friend die in your arms, and having to sell drugs and carry a gun so that you can have something to eat.

Tupac's story is one of triumph, not trajedy. He continues to inspire millions of people around the world to have compassion and love for your fellow man. If it wasn't for him, I would've never become a socialist, and who knows where that may take me in life...

So please, don't disrespect him. Try to understand what he has given to so many of us: Hope.

Peace.


Originally posted by Tupac Shakur
"We talk a lot about Malcom X and Martin Luther King JR, but It's time to be like them, as strong as them. They were mortal men like us and everyone of us can be like them. I don't want to be a role model. I just want to be someone who says, this is who i am, this is what i do. I say what's on my mind."

"Though are hands are chained like they are, they haven't taken music from us yet. So that's how I'll fight. People tell me don't quit like everyone else. I wont have no fear."

"Support me... If you don't understand me don't write about me."

"All I can say is I always try to be a real nigga in my heart. Sometimes its good, sometimes it's bad; but its still us. Its never to hurt anybody."

"Maybe now niggas feel me now
Picture my pain
Embrace my words
Make the world change"

"The real tragedy is that there are some ignorant brothers out here. That's why I'm not on this all-White or all Black shit. I'm on this all-real or all fake shit with people, whatever color you are. Because niggas will do you. I mean, there's some [foul] niggas out there [in the streets]; the same niggas that did Malcolm X, the same niggas that did Jesus Christ- every brother ain't a brother. They will do you. So just because it's Black, don't mean it's cool. And just because it's White don't mean it's evil."

"My music is not for everyone. It's only for the stong-willed, the [street] soldiers music. It's not like party music- I mean, you could gig to it, but it's spiritual. My music is spiritual. It's like Negro spirituals, except for the fact that I'm not saying 'We shall Overcome.' I'm saying that we are overcome."

"I remember crying all the time. My major thing growing up was I couldn't fit in. Because I was from everywhere, I didn't have no buddies that I grew up with...Every time I had to go to a new apartment, I had to reinvent myself, myself. People think just because you born in the ghetto you gonna fit in. A little twist in your life and you don't fit in no matter what. If they push you out of the hood and the White people's world, that's criminal...Hell, I felt like my could be destroyed at any moment."

"To me, it reall y troubling because I took ouver at that's successful- Marky Mark, Hammer, Vanilla Ice, New Kids On The Block selling twenty-two million copies, and I want that [kind of success] so badly, but I can't do that. I would be wrong to do that, knowing what I know and having the brain that I have, for me to even go and write some simple shit would be wrong even though I would get paid and I would get more people's money. I would rather leave something so that when people pick up 2pacalypse Now or any of my other albums in 1999, they'll go, Damn! Brothers had it hard back in the day, but brother were working it out."

"My raps are a decision, rabble rousing, spiritual, like gospel music. I don't want to dance. We have so many things to deal with, we need to talk straight up and down."

"I don't advocate senseless violence of any human being. I'm the one who's been beat down. But I will not be a victim again."

"So many other things for us to see, Things to be, Our history so full of tragedy and misery."

"'Cause if God wrote the Bible, I'm sure there would have been a revised copy
by now. 'Cause a lot of shit has changed. I've been looking for this revised copy.
I still see that same old copy that we had from then. I'm not disrespecting anyone's religion, please forgive me if it comes off that way, I'm just stating my opinion."

"I feel like role models today are not meant to be put on a pedestal. But more like angels with broken wings"

"The only thing America respects is power and power concedes nothing. After the LA Riots, they tried to calm us down and nothing changed since"

"And still, the best of us build, and reach monetary gains. Some of us kill, but still, most of us can change."




http://ladyshakur1.tripod.com/tupac/tupac_2.jpg

[The Grey Blur]

Tupac was an excellent rapper and for whatever idiot who said he wasn't good because he was inconsistent, evolving attitudes are part & parcel of a great artist (think Lennon, Nas, Elvis, etc.)

BTW, he's definately dead, Assata Shakur (his grandmother?) lives in Cuba.

[Che1990]

Originally posted by Konqwest+May 17 2005, 06:56 PM--> (Konqwest @ May 17 2005, 06:56 PM)
Black [email protected] 17 2005, 04:36 PM

I believe he is gay

Explain.
wow sorry about saying he was gay... I meant to say i believe he is gone [/b]
Ok let's just forget you said it but in future please don't use gay as a derogatory term. I hate it when people do that. There is nothing wrong with being gay.

[bunk]

Diggin' in the crates is the best crew and Big L is the best rapper to have ever graced the mic although he is not the greatest as per say cause he was shot before he could even finish working on his second album...

[Pawn Power]

I don't think he knows he is dead because he keeps coming out with new albums.

[Hefer]

Sad to say, but he was a "corprate whore", I really like pac, but he and like many other artist are nothig more than sheep, used to rank in the $$$

[Hampton]

I'm not sure how he was a coperate whore. He was signed to a label whos owner is a gangster involved in beatings and murders. Of course he made/makes money that is what any popular musical artist will do but to say that just ignores his music and the messages which are in them. Some very stong, some you may like or not like but there is a message trying to come across.

[Xian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 01:13 PM
Sad to say, but he was a "corprate whore", I really like pac, but he and like many other artist are nothig more than sheep, used to rank in the $$$
Sure, he made people a lot of money...

But that was never HIS goal. He never did it for the money. He did it so that people would feel what he was saying and try to change the world. Music was his outlet. He wasn't a "corporate whore." He never compromised his integrity, and all the money he actually made (which was very little by the way) was given to support his family. He frequently brought the homeless in to stay at his house.

I know it's hard to understand this, especially when you're socialist. But so am I and so was Tupac. He mother was a black panther, and everything that he had, he shared with others. The most important thing he shared with us was his heart.

Please don't disrespect him by calling him a whore...he was a socialist hero, and he deserves honor.

Peace.

[Xian]

oh and,

"Even though our hands are chained like they are, they haven't taken music from us yet. So that's how I'll fight."

-Tupac Shakur



"We need to rebuild a movement capable of liberating our people. There's nothing we can do to bring Tupac back, but we can learn from his death. You can hear a lot of love in Tupac's work. We need to work to create a world where the Tupacs of the world can grow and love... I don't care who you are or what you do, when they put that microphone in front of you, try to make sure you have something worthwhile to say."

-Assata Shakur

[Anti-establishment]

Nas is the Greatest of all time in my opinion, Tupac is up there as well with the other legends.

Tupac is dead.

Big L, died too soon.

[Organic Revolution]

http://www.hitemup.co.uk/pictures/mural1.jpg

[bunk]

Suge Knight is behind a lot of dodgy stuff to do with BIG and Pac

[TupacAndChe4Eva]

Suge Knight has been "ratted on" by a prison snitch. He has been directly implicated in the death of Biggie Smalls.

Tupac, for me, changed my life. Before I was politically awoken by the life and legacy of Che Guevara, I already had a person to be my role model : Tupac Shakur. Here was a man who fought demons his whole life. I don't need to explain anything about him, unless someone asks a question, and I will be willing to answer. But don't judge a book by its cover.

Thug Life.

T = The
H = Hate
U = U
G = Give
L = Little
I = Infants
F = Fucks
E = Everybody.

By the way, whoever said he 'pretended to be a thug'. Please. He had a criminal record as long as your arm, and that was before he was even a rapper.

[Invader Zim]

If I were to listen to a rapper, it would be Tupac and from me thats high praise.

[Archpremier]

Tupac is not dead! He's in Cuba, hiding out with Elvis in the Easter Bunny's nuke shelter banging the Tooth Fairy!

[The Grey Blur]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2005, 05:25 PM
Diggin' in the crates is the best crew and Big L is the best rapper to have ever graced the mic although he is not the greatest as per say cause he was shot before he could even finish working on his second album...
Out of B.I.G, Tupac and Big L, the most tragic loss was Big L. At least Tupac managed to create classic music and get his message across before he died, also BIG has 'Ready 2 Die' and lived to the full while he was still alive. If Big L was alive today he would be the best rapper in the game along with Nas. He had soooo much potential. He was still using his razor-sharp mind to come up with brilliant punch-lines & one-liners (anyone heard his freestyle of 'Big Picture'?), imagine what would have happened when he grew up a bit and started considering things like government, poverty or whatever. To die at twenty-two and leave such potential...it hurts everyone.

R.I.P Big L

Interviewer: "Big L, peace man. Any words of wisdom?"

Big L: "Keep on lovin' Big L 'cos Big L love y'all. We gonna keep making hot music. The next album I'm gonna make is gonna be a classic. I'm not saying it just to blow my own horn or whatever. There's a difference between confidence and being cocky, and I'm real confident because I know what I'm capable of. It's gonna be crazy."

An interview in Holland that Big L gave; his last - he was killed four days later.

[TupacAndChe4Eva]

Big L was a tragic loss.

The best freestyler I have personally ever heard.

Go get the Deadly Combination Remix. Big L, Tupac and B.I.G.

At least then everyone will be pleased.

[bunk]

^For anyone who hasn't heard Big L before i got the 7 minute freestyle with him and Jay-Z for ya

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1A8ZJKP...993E3LXQN6IWDTA (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1A8ZJKPYW0F993E3LXQN6IWDTA)

[Anti-establishment]

Can't stand Jay-Z

[bunk]

Your loss, that freestyle is famous :rolleyes:

here's the summer smooth remix of MVP
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NNXR6H...OO3SEZBQQ29A5X0 (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NNXR6HCIPTOO3SEZBQQ29A5X0)

[Anti-establishment]

I've heard the majority of songs on RD, Dead Presidents and D'Evils are great tracks, but now he's a biter and a sell-out.

[bunk]

Originally posted by Anti-[email protected] 5 2005, 11:56 AM
I've heard the majority of songs on RD, Dead Presidents and D'Evils are great tracks, but now he's a biter and a sell-out.
this freestyle is nto recent. That's like saying da Graveyard on LOTPAD is bad cause it had Jay-Z on it.

[Anti-establishment]

I didn't say the freestyle wasn't good Josh, I just said I hate Jay-Z.

[bunk]

Originally posted by Anti-[email protected] 5 2005, 12:04 PM
I didn't say the freestyle wasn't good Josh, I just said I hate Jay-Z.
^no matter - peace. Did you download either song?

here's a blend of Biggie, Big L, and Canibus

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2MPL48JT4BH620L1RO09HNHHS6

[Anti-establishment]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 01:13 PM
here's a blend of Biggie, Big L, and Canibus



nice.

Canibus is such an underachiever tho.

[TupacAndChe4Eva]

Canibus only under-achieved because he loses beefs.

I think he lost against Eminem. Against LL, I think he, at least, was equal to LL. 2nd Round KO was top quality.

By the way, that 7 minute free with Jay Z is from August 96, I believe, so its the 'old flow' Jay Z.

[Anti-establishment]

Canibus also has a weak album on its way(probably out already), every review i've read say it's one of the poorest from him yet!