Can you be a anarcho-monarchist?

[resisting arrest with violence]

http://www.artnet.com/artwork_images/56/63547.jpg

Dali's famous Life Magazine photo entitled Dali Atomicus


Salvador Dali

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Dali

"The only difference between myself and a madman is that I am not mad."

"The only difference between me and the Surrealists is that I am a Surrealist"

"At the age of six years I wanted to be a chef. At the age of seven I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambitions have continued to grow at the same rate ever since."

"Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy – the joy of being Salvador Dalí – and I ask myself in rapture: What wonderful things this Salvador Dalí is going to accomplish today?"

"I tried sex once with a woman and that woman was Gala. It was overrated. I tried sex once with a man and that man was the famous juggler Federico Garcia Lorca [the Spanish Surrealist poet]. It was very painful."

[apathy maybe]

The question posed in your title seems to show some lack of knowledge of anarchism. An anarchy is a society with no social or economic hierarchy. Monarchy is a system of rule by a monarch (a single person) usally with a lot of lords and nobles underneath. Thus the two are compleatly not compatible. You can't have a system with both. While I guess it would be possible to support a monarchy as a lesser evil, and still wish for anarchy ultimatly, it sounds a bit fucked up.

[Jersey Devil]

Or maybe he was making a comment regarding Dali's surrealist paintings as an anarchist who is loyal to a king is surreal! Read a post before responding. Seriously, some people here have to stop taking everything so literal.

[monkeydust]

Agreed.

I know it's the net, and you don't hear vocal tones or see facial gestures, but ignoring sarcasm when it's right in your face seems unforgivable.

[Djehuti]

Radical Conservatives (Jünger, Niekisch, Schmitt, Evola, etc) like to call themselfs in contradictionary terms like "Anarcho-royalist", "National anarchist", "Revolutionary conservative", etc. Quite fun accually. :)

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You can try on this Radical Conservative test that I translated:

You do:
Consistently say the Versailles dictate (and not Versailles treaty): 3 points.
Collect beatles: 4 points.
Always write Tradition with a capital T: 1 point.
Refered to Karol Wojtyla as “the pope”: 2 points. (Minus two points if you don't understand what I aim at)

Books:
(E-books count but nos shorter essays and such, at least 20 pages.)
Jünger: 2 points/book.
Schmitt: 2 points/book.
Niekisch: 3 points/book..
Hielscher: 3 points/book..
Moeller van den Bruck: 3 points/book.
Evola: 2 points/book.
Spengler: 2 points/book.
Sorel: 2 points/book.
Georges: 2 points/book.
Jung: 1 points/book.
Nietzsche: 1 points/book.
Dostojevskij: 1 points/book.

(Minus 2 points for each of the above you did not know about)

Politics/Weltanschauung:
Circular time notion: 4 points.
Linear time notion: -2 points.
Etatist: 2 points.
Postnationalism: 3 points. (Double if you despite this still use terms like folk, race and nation.)
You describe your ideology in contradictionary terms, for example anarcho-royalist, conservative revolutionary, national anarchist: 6 points.
Are of the opinion that dictatorship necessarily is not in opposition to democracy: 4 points:
Regard "west" as the primary enemy: 3 points. (Duble if you in everyday talk use it as an invective.)
Advocate germanic-slavic friendship, the Eurasia idea or similar: 3 points.
Are of the opinon that ”political thought and political instinct appear theoretical and practical as the ability to distinguish friend from foe.”: 2 points. (An additional point of you can state the source of the quote, person and work is enough.)
The formost reason to dislike nazism is their "mobishness".
Like the Soviet Union (at least the period 1920-35) but not Marx: points.
You have some time answered the question ”What was the worst of the war?” with: That we lost it: 2 points. (Further 3 point if you at the same time are of the opion that Germany had to lose the war in order to win the nation.)
Mean that Preussen/Germany in first hand is a spiritual possition: 4 points.
Pacifist and/or anti-militarist: -20 points.

Other:
Know what ”subtle hunt” refres to: 2 points.
Occupy yourself as a writer : 3 points.
Took part in the first world war as a german front soldier: 20 points.


> 25 points: Bourgeoisie: Liberal or communist, the difference is very small, you are west and an enemy to Preussen/Tradition.
25-50 points: Conservative: One step forth, but just being against the french revolution is not enough.
< 51 points: Preussian Socialist: Total state, total mobilization and total war, you do indeed possess the ability to distinguish friend from foe.


:D

[Palmares]

What a fucked up thread.

I originally thought it was perhaps a question about the relationship between how surrealism is identified with anarchism due to the way in which there express their ideas are virtually tantamount, not to mention the relationship between them culturally.

And from there, the question would be how can a "surrealist", that being Dali, then be a monarchist as he was? Not to mention he was a fucking born-again Catholic...

Hmmm...

Well... weird thread anyway.

[OleMarxco]

Wow, doesn&#39;t Salvador Dali look.....
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Dali.jpeg
....HOT IN THIS PICTURE&#33;? ;)

Yeah, I know, that sounded gay allright. But, here&#39;s some trivia about Salvadali....
Who doesn&#39;t forget the dripping clocks, hm? Anarcho-Monarchist is against itself because Anarchy = No Authority, and Monarchist = Feudalistic Authoritism.

"Salvador Domenec Felip Jacint Dalí Domenech (May 11, 1904 – January 23, 1989) was an important Catalan-Spanish painter, best known for his surrealist works. Dalí&#39;s work is noted for its striking combination of bizarre dreamlike images with excellent draftsmanship and painterly skills influenced by the Renaissance masters. Dalí was an artist of great talent and imagination. He had an admitted love of doing unusual things to draw attention to himself, which sometimes irked those who loved his art as much as it annoyed his critics, since his eccentric theatrical manner sometimes overshadowed his artwork in public attention".

Hey, he even lived longer than Sartre, and he died in &#39;80 :D

[Black Dagger]

Yeah, I know, that sounded gay allright.

What&#39;s wrong with sounding gay? :angry:

[apathy maybe]

Sure I read the post. Didn&#39;t see what it had to do with much at all. So answed the question posed in the title. Am I expected to know that Dahl was a monarchist and an anarchist?

[OleMarxco]

Originally posted by Black [email protected] 12 2005, 03:50 PM

Yeah, I know, that sounded gay allright.
What&#39;s wrong with sounding gay? :angry:
Nothing... I just said it sounded gay, and that in a POSITIVE way of speakin&#39;&#33; :o

[Palmares]

Originally posted by Apathy [email protected] 13 2005, 04:19 PM
Sure I read the post. Didn&#39;t see what it had to do with much at all. So answed the question posed in the title. Am I expected to know that Dahl was a monarchist and an anarchist?
I don&#39;t believe Dali was an [i]"anarcho-monarchist"[i/] per se, but the question was expected to be answered in relation to Dali because: it was a thread about Dali.

It just happens that the actual content about Dali didn&#39;t appear to have much relation to... anything. :blink:

[red_orchestra]

Can you be a anarcho-monarchist? I find this question to be very strange. I guess its kinda like asking Can you have Judeo-Nazism, or Communist Conservatism Abviously, the answer is NO. Anarchism is free from any type of figure head or control of anykind. People are free to decide what they need.

[Monty Cantsin]

you could be a communist-conservatiive you&#39;d just have to be in a communist society.

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

I think you could probably pull off "Anarcho-Monarchist" in modern, absurd lifestylist terms . . . and I can see post-left [post-]anarchists embracing Dali.

Dude, it&#39;s about how he expressed himself.

(*Vomit*)

[Palmares]

Originally posted by Monty [email protected] 17 2005, 01:06 AM
you could be a communist-conservatiive you&#39;d just have to be in a communist society.
How right you are.

I find it ever so strange how often people look at you when I tell them that conservatism is not an entirely tangible ideology, but rather is simply conserving the ideology of the time.

For example, Fidel Castro is a "socialist" conservative, in that he attempts to prevent any non-socialistic (in the Castro sense of the word) things from happening.