ELF Communique

[soilride]

E.L.F. attacks U.S. Forest Service research facility

September 3, 2002


The ELF Press Office received the following communique September 01, 2002:

The Earth Liberation Front is claiming responsibility for the 8/11/02 arson attack on the United States Forest Service Northeast Research Station in Irvine, Pennsylvania.

The laboratory was set ablaze during the early morning hours, causing over $700,000 damage, and destroying part of 70 years worth of research. This lesson in "prescribed fire" was a natural, necessary response to
the threats posed to life in the Allegheny Forest by proposed timber sales, oil drilling, and greed driven manipulation of Nature.

This facility was strategically targeted, and if rebuilt, will be targeted again for complete destruction. Furthermore, all other U.S. Forest Service administration and research facilities, as well as all DCNR buildings nationwide should now be considered likely targets.

These agencies continue to ignore and mislead the public, at the bidding of their corporate masters, leaving us with no alternative to underground direct action. Their blatant disregard for the sanctity of life and its perfect Natural balance, indifference to strong public
opposition, and the irrevocable acts of extreme violence they perpetrate against the Earth daily are all inexcusable, and will not be tolerated. If they persist in their crimes against life, they will be met with maximum retaliation.

In pursuance of justice, freedom, and equal consideration for all innocent life across the board, segments of this global revolutionary movement are no longer limiting their revolutionary potential by adhering to a flawed, inconsistant "non-violent" ideology. While
innocent life will never be harmed in any action we undertake, where it is necessary, we will no longer hesitate to pick up the gun to implement justice, and provide the needed protection for our planet that decades of legal battles, pleading, protest, and economic sabotage have failed so drastically to achieve.

The diverse efforts of this revolutionary force cannot be contained, and will only continue to intensify as we are brought face to face with the oppressor in inevitable, violent confrontation. We will stand up and fight for our lives against this iniquitous civilization until its reign of TERROR is forced to an end - by any means necessary.

In defense of all life,

-Pacific E.L.F.

[Xvall]

YES!

[Pinko]

Fuck my wooly socks! :cheesy:

Fundamentalist Ecowarriors, what ever next?
Yay, rah rah the eco-revolution!

(Edited by Pinko at 2:33 am on Sep. 11, 2002)

[Conghaileach]

If they set the station on fire, would that not be damaging to the environment?

[Xvall]

Well, if it didn't spread to anywhere else, I'm not concerned. Fire is natural; so I doubt it would dammage the enviorenment much.

[MJM]

I'd guess the reason they burnt it is that Genetic Engineering is currnetly being done on trees in places like that, better to burn it all than let it escape into the enviroment.

[Mazdak]

I support all ELF/ALF actions.

[Xvall]

Good. So do I. Some leftists don't; although I'm not too sure why.

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Drake Dracoli on 7:59 pm on Sep. 11, 2002
Good. So do I. Some leftists don't; although I'm not too sure why.

Because they also attack workers.

I should note that I support this action, however I have a problem when they attack subcontracters who are only performing a job for the builder. Some have had their work vehicles vandelized, and equitment destroyed. Not major corerations eather... just small time guys that are trying to make a living with their hands and one truck.

The Capitalist machine has already deskilled most jobs in America, the building trades are among the few trades left where someone without a formal education can make a decent living with their skill and labor.

(Edited by RedCeltic at 8:14 pm on Sep. 11, 2002)

[Xvall]

I know, but it is extremely hard to avoid this. I mean, technically; although destroying something like a McDonalds is essentially productive, it does cause loss of jobs. On the other hand, this might make the workers realize what they are siding with, and take a diffirent standpoint on the current situation.

[Mazdak]

RedCeltic, although i agree harming innocent sis wrong, what about

The german conscripts killed by French resistance during WW2? Or, even if you stretch it, come to think of it, what about engineers and slave workers who were on the death Star that Luke Skywalker blew up in Star Wars. Everyone cheered and thought Luke a hero (I know this is a fantasy movie but i couldnt think of another example)

[RedCeltic]

What the fuck are you talking about? This isn't si/fi... these are real people working real fucking jobs. Why attack the man and his tools when you should be attacking the real problem, corperation! It's not like they went out to attack a big company and...got a few workers on the way.... they've been known to single out workers... at least what I've seen from carpenter's I've worked with on Long Island... there's no call for that shit!

[Xvall]

I just seriously don't know how to attack a corporation without harming their tools!

[RedCeltic]

Drake,

A subcontracter like a carpenter, plumber, electrician... mostly work indepentently. You go fuck up my truck and wreck my tools I'm the mutha fucka' that has to pay for it!!!!! Attack my right to earn a living, I'll fuckin' kill you!!!

Actually I don't work that field any longer but that's the attitude we have about stupid punk twats that attack us.

Burning down a construction site is all well and good... however I don't know who your hurting there... Builders are required to have insurance. Attacking this lab is probobly the only action from them I'd agree with.

All in all though, I'm a socialist because I believe in the rights or workers to get their fair share... the right for everyone to have work at a livible income level. ELF doesn't fight for workers, and don't give a flying fuck about our rights.

[soilride]

If no one gives a flying fuck about nature, then no one gives a flying fuck about people, workers and human rights. Because without nature, nobody would be here.

Whatever your personal opinions about the ELF/ALF, stop complaining about workers rights being violated in these incidents and look at how capitalism and imperialism has continued its violence and violations against all people and trashing their rights.

Please take a look at one's own position and try to see that fighting for nature and reality, one is indeed fighting for all people and living things. They are connected like brothers.

Yours for the revolution,
soilride

[RedCeltic]

Fucking bullshit.


It doesn't matter much to me the reasoning behind what they do. If they hinder people's ability to earn a living than they are against the working class.

Where do these "ELF" people come from anyway? Most are wealthy suburban kids who don't know squat about the working class.

You can put whatever meaning you want behind the attacks, but basicly if you attack the working class you're my enemy.

we should be fighting for socialism comrades, not trees! Socialism would solve these problems in a way that snot nosed punk kids and matches could never dreem of.

You want to stop the rich from bulding homes? Get rid of the wealthy class!!!

You want to stop paper mills from tearing down forests? Support hemp farming for use in paper products.

Comrades, we must know where the fight is, and it isn't in attacking tradespeople.

There was a Stalinist who posted here awile back by the Name of Yuri... While I didn't agree on his views of race... I did agree with him that liberation of the working class is the primary goal of socialism/communism.

If you're not first and formost for the rights of the working class, you're just some silly little kid wearing hammer and sickles for kicks.

I'm no Stalinist but I have more respect for Yuri than wishy washy kids who bounce from one cool group that blows shit up to another....



(Edited by RedCeltic at 4:06 pm on Sep. 12, 2002)

[RedCeltic]

sorry, I missed this jem...


although destroying something like a McDonalds is essentially productive, it does cause loss of jobs. On the other hand, this might make the workers realize what they are siding with, and take a diffirent standpoint on the current situation.

So basicly... cindy, who lives in "Help Suffolk" (a homeless shelter) and is a single parent of three, who walks two miles every day to catch the bus in order to work long hours at the Macdonalds on Montauk Highway... is now suddenly going to thank you for taking away her pirmary source of income.... Probobly would turn to prostitution, but Mazdak would have her shot.

Sometimes I wonder if you people live in the same world I do.

[El Che]

RedCeltic, Plato used to say "when a wise man sees a market full of people and activity on rainy day, he might yell once or twice for people to get out of the rain, but seeing that he is ignored he forgets about the mob and procedes to take shelter him self."

Dont keep yelling coz your just wasting your time comrade.

[RedCeltic]

lol... I'm always amazed at how wize you are El Che. ok I'll shut up now. :)

[Xvall]

Gah! I said although it was productive, and then stated why I don't support crap like that! Pay attention!

[RedCeltic]

Pay attention? Who the fuck are you? It's not productive do you think a major fast food chain like Macdonalds doesn't have INSURANCE????

Have you ever stopped to think of what the affects would be if you blew up a fast food joint? The company would get money to rebuild the resturant and more policemen on the street to watch us.

[soilride]

RedCeltic:

You're missing the fucking point.

As long as you direct your anger elsewhere other than the ruling classes who hold sway over contradictions between workers and people and social movements, then what you have to say is like pissing in the wind.

Reality is indifferent to what we have to say about anything. But it is reality we must listen to.

Its beyond opinions and inner 'morality' and philosophical outlooks now. Revolution is beyond that and one must realize that if one is to indeed really fight for workers and their emancipation.

You battle is for reality, for the workers to achieve that reality and against the bourgeiosie.

What you seem to want is workers rights admist a capitalist society already filled with violations of these rights or in your own words: "If they hinder people's ability to earn a living than they are against the working class." And if the bourgeousie and ruling classes go on destroying nature and setting up workers in contradicting nature itself, then there will be no working class, because the working class and all people can not live if nature is dead.

Yours for the revolution,
soilride

[soilride]

And for any bourgeois elements and reactionaries reading this thread, a big fuck you. In the words of Fred Hampton; "You can kill the revolutionary, but you can't kill the revolution!"

Power to the Intifada!
Power to the ELF!
Power to the people!

[Xvall]

Gah! You're still not paying attention! I am not supporting destroying the damn McDonalds!

[RedCeltic]

soilride,

You seem to know very little about the working class. Let me put it to you this way... I've been a plumber for almost ten years. So I think I know a little more about the bulding trades than you.

When I say that I'm for the rights of the working class, it means that I'm for their rights regardless of the system. That's something that some of you children fail to understand. People live in a capitalist society. It's a system that needs to be destroyed, however all ELF does is just piss people off and put tradesmen out of work.

So go on.. fight for the rights of the Spruce, Ash, Maple and oak. You're not going to affect the bourgeois much, but are sure to solidly set us who work for a living against you.

That's it.. I'm thrugh with this thread.

[RedCeltic]

Oh.. Drake: Sorry I did realize you don't want to blow up a Macdonalds I was questioning the bennifits of it. Anyway, sorry for my harsh tone but these fuckers attacked on Long Island some time back and I have a grudge against them.

[Mazdak]

Look, didnt i say i knew it was a strange example, but is it not true? WE are all for the French resistence right? Or am i missing something.