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Socialsmo o Muerte
10th May 2005, 19:28
Another year, another Tory leadership campaign.

Since Hague, it's been pleasingly dull from the Tories. They've had nobody with any sense of direction and all their "big-hitters" such as Davis, Letwin and Clarke have been kept out of the leadership chair. But this time it seems different, maybe worryingly.

No matter how dirty his tactics were, Michael Howard has given some new life to the Party. Of course, he got lucky due to the circumstances that were all against Tony Blair, but there is some blood flowing through the Tory Party again and I think it could mean trouble. When Hague and IDS stood down, there was no fire in the party or in the leadership campaign. Howard has got lucky, and now there is desire. They are talking about reforming the Party and having the impact on the Party that Blair did on Labour.

So long as it's not Rifkind, I have a bad feeling that the Tories may play with things to the level that Blair did and win over much of the public. If someone like Fox, Cameron, Osbourne or Lansley take over, I think we could see a massive change of direction from them.

Anybody have any thoughts?

OleMarxco
10th May 2005, 19:33
Yeah. Why did Kilroy Robert-Silk leave the party to found his own, the "Vanitas"...uh, I mean, "Veritas"? ;)

bunk
10th May 2005, 19:43
Kilroy left Labour for UKIP then left that to create Veritas

OleMarxco
10th May 2005, 19:48
Oh. I thought he was a conservertivian :)

Bugalu Shrimp
10th May 2005, 19:51
New Labour have pursued such an outrageously centrist agenda that there is no where for the Tories to go other than further right and that is doom time. Labour will only be successfully attacked from the left.

bunk
10th May 2005, 19:57
Originally posted by Bugalu [email protected] 10 2005, 06:51 PM
New Labour have pursued such an outrageously centrist agenda that there is no where for the Tories to go other than further right and that is doom time. Labour will only be successfully attacked from the left.
well Lib Dem's attacked Labour from the left and did well against labour seats but failed against the Tory seats

Bugalu Shrimp
10th May 2005, 20:03
Tory constituentcy is ever decreasing, the people that voted Tory will always vote Tory but they are mostly an aged breed. Lib Dems will probably prove more effective next time round.

bolshevik butcher
10th May 2005, 20:05
The tories are squazed by labour in the centre, and ukip and bnp on the right.

Socialsmo o Muerte
11th May 2005, 13:30
Exactly, and, unlike after Hague and IDS, they've now realised that they need to make major changes. Just like Labour did after the abysmal years of Foot and Kinnock.