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bezdomni
9th May 2005, 03:27
Does anybody know their platform and what they have accomplished/hope to accomplish?
Do you believe that they are trying to create a true socialist state?
I don't know much about them and can't find a whole lot about them.
American_Trotskyist
9th May 2005, 03:30
Yeah, just as dedicated as the Social Democrats in Germany.
RedAnarchist
9th May 2005, 13:29
How can they create a true socialist state from the top down? They have sold out and are partaking in the "democratic" elections of the ruling class!
fernando
9th May 2005, 14:54
Well..good luck in trying to create your revolution from below ;)
RedAnarchist
9th May 2005, 14:58
Fernando, a revolution can only be successful if it is from the bottom up! The people need to destroy the ruling classes. To do it from the top down is simple reformism.
fernando
9th May 2005, 15:06
Name one nation in which the proletariat has risen from below, removed that ruling class and gave the power to the people? And now...countries like the USSR, China and Cuba are ruled by governments, new elites, not the proletariat in total.
People in Western Europe will not rebel against their government on a big revolutionary scale because they are happy (a lot of them) with what they have, if they turn unhappy they'd jst vote for another government.
This revolution however would work in countries where the situation is really bad, such as Third World countries, however one ruling class would still replace the other one there, eventhough it would give more to the people.
Latin America
9th May 2005, 22:42
How is the current situation in Spain?
viva le revolution
9th May 2005, 23:10
I will have to agree with Fernando. a revolution, in the true sense of the word, will only occur mostly in the third world. But not because the people in the developed countries are happier but because the media is not developed enough to suppress any revolutionary thought and demonise our cause.
fernando
10th May 2005, 08:19
Why would the people of lets say Holland start a full scale revolution? Why would the people of Sweden start a revolution? People have no motive to start one here
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