Countries on the verge of communist revolution

[Enragé]

i really cant think of any...who can? :P

[Guest1]

Venezuela, Pakistan.

[Colombia]

How about Moldavia?

[Winston Smith]

Nepal has an ongoing Maoist revlot.

[Guest]

Venezuela is currently basing itself on the ideas of socialism. There is widespread discontent in Latin America and revolutionary situation's are developing everywhere. Mexico is even heading towards a revolutionary situation that we might see in the next few years.

[Guest]

Originally posted by Che y [email protected] 5 2005, 02:52 PM
Venezuela, Pakistan.
Pakistan? I thought it was turning more to the religious right.

[Enragé]

"Nepal has an ongoing Maoist revlot."

thats the problem, its ongoing. And its Maoist, so fuck it :P

"Pakistan? I thought it was turning more to the religious right. "

me 2

[Winston Smith]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2005, 06:13 PM
"Nepal has an ongoing Maoist revlot."

thats the problem, its ongoing. And its Maoist, so fuck it :P
Well true but it isn't over. There isn't much of a verge these days. Either there is a revolution or its "politics as usual" in most places.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by Che y [email protected] 5 2005, 03:52 PM
Venezuela, Pakistan.
Both a big NO. Venezuala is heading towards some sort of social-democratic stuff and there are just way too many fundamentalist religous people in Pakistan.

[Poum_1936]

Both a big NO. Venezuala is heading towards some sort of social-democratic stuff and there are just way too many fundamentalist religous people in Pakistan.

Um... no

More and more Pakistani's are being introduced to Marxism and Trotskyism. There are even (I believe Im right) Marxist MP's in parliament. Trotskyist Allan Woods has even spoke in front of the Pakistani government. THough it may not be on the "verge" it is getting closer everyday.

Some articles on Pakistan...

http://www.marxist.com/Asia/pakistan_congress05_comments.htm

http://www.marxist.com/Asia/pakistan_relea...vists190405.htm (http://www.marxist.com/Asia/pakistan_release_activists190405.htm)

As for Venezuela, there has been an ongoing revolution there for some time now. It started off as a bourgeois democratic revolution but has not begun to turn socialist. What we have only seen recently is just the beginning, the nationalization of Venepal, CNV, and now the massive May Day demonstration. Just to name a few highlights.

http://www.marxist.com/Latinam/venezuela_may_day050505.htm

[Edward Norton]

More and more Pakistani's are being introduced to Marxism and Trotskyism. There are even (I believe Im right) Marxist MP's in parliament. Trotskyist Allan Woods has even spoke in front of the Pakistani government. THough it may not be on the "verge" it is getting closer everyday.

Pakistan is a right wing military dictatorship ever since the military coup of October 1999.

The so called parliament is nothing but a powerless talking shop controlled by the military regime. The army in the new constitution of Pakistan has the power to dissolve parliament (a legalised military coup in other words) if parliament ever goes against the military regimes will. The Pakistani cabinet still has the same unelected ministers from the military and rich elite that were appointed by the dictator after the coup.

These so called 'Trotskyist' MPs are nothing but social democratic reformists who have no intention of any king of workers uprising (despite the fact that Pakistan is a dictatorship) and are just reformists who hope that the junta will 'play fair' and step aside so they can become career politicians, as if that is what Pakistan needs right now.

These 'Trotskyist' MPs are also affiliated to the Socialist Appeal group in the UK, a reformist group that is PART of the Labour party. There is nothing Marxist here!

In a way these fake Trotskyists are playing into the Islamists hands, since the 'Trotskyists' are lending legitimacy to the military regime by partking in the talking shop charade they call a parliament. Since these reformists offer no REAL resistance to the military regime, the Islamists pick up all the poor and destitute people who want to see REAL change, but end up with the Islamists because they are at least fighting the military in the border areas with Afghanistan and seem to be the only force who can (at this moment in time) be able to overthrow the junta.

[Poum_1936]

ocialist Appeal group in the UK, a reformist group that is PART of the Labour party. There is nothing Marxist here!

Reformist? How so?

Not once have they advocated reformism. They work within the Labo(u)r Party with the idea that revolutionary parties are not pulled out of one's ass.

"To refuse to work in the reactionary trade unions means leaving the insufficiently developed or backward masses of the workers under the influence of the reactionary leaders, the agents of the bourgeoisie, the labor aristocrats, or 'workers who have become completly bourgeois'..."

"This ridiculous 'theory' that Communists should not work in reactionary trade unions reveals with the utmost clarity the frivolous attitude of the 'Left' Communists toward the question of influencing the 'masses' and their misuse of clamour about the 'masses.' If you want to help the 'masses' and win the sympathy and support of the 'masses', you should not fear the difficulties, or pinpricks, chicanery, insults and persecution from the 'leaders' (who, being oppertunists and social chauvinists, are in most cases directly or indirectly connected with the bourgeoisie and the police), but must absolutely work wherever the masses are to be ofund. You must be capable of, any sacrifice, of overcoming the greatest obstacles, in order to carry on agitation and propaganda, systematicaly, preserveringly, persistently and patiently in those institutions, societies and associations - event the most reactionary - in which proletarian or semi-proletarian masses are to be found."

-Lenin