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hawarameen
4th September 2002, 18:54
when i heard that there was to be a world confrence on sustainable development i was so full of hope, finaly i thought something good will happen. i am not a stupid person but to think that anything good would come from this confrence was totaly stupid and nieve of me.

while millions of people are starving around the world delegates gorge themselve on the lobsters, caviar, brandy etc. that was supplied during the confrence.

while habitats of thousands of animals are being wiped out due to deforestation, bush (who didnt attend) was in support and visiting the logging industry in america.

while the fossil fuels that are being pumped into the air are killing the planet, delegates still find it neccessary to debate the use of renewable energy

targets set during the meeting are laughable, most of which are the same as or even lower than the last earth summit 10 years ago

the whole thing is a farce.

Felicia
5th September 2002, 00:27
hmm, I agree

jon doe
6th September 2002, 08:31
G'day

This is a tad off topic but what's hapening in kurdistan and why does it need freedom (sorry i am highly ignorant on most middle eastern issues) and isn't nationalism against the ideas of marxism (a tool used by the rulling class to divide the workers) the same question to the pro-palestinians of how they justify nationalism from a marxist standpoint (no im not saying fucked up shite isnt happening to the palestinian peoples or to the kurds)


*appoligies for the spelling*


thanks
-r.

BOZG
6th September 2002, 09:50
Most people support some elements of their struggles but not them all. Just as there are religious nationalistic extremists on both sides of the Israel/Palestinian conflict, it does make the cause of freedom from Israeli rule any less, it just means that there needs to be some great changes in the Palestinians power structure as in the Israeli government.

Terminal Frost
10th September 2002, 20:43
The World Summit is all bollocks. At Kyoto in 1995 every MEDC* made a pledge to reduce CO2 emissions to 5% below 1995 levels by 2000. At the Hague Summit of 2000 the US and Canada were the only 2 countries to have INCREASED CO2 emissions [sad to say only 1/2 reached the target :(].

Their argument was that because they had planted so many acres of forest** that they should have their allowance increased. The British delegate pointed out mid-conference that it takes 3 years of growth before trees begin to convert CO2 effectively, and 20 years to reach full capacity. The US delegate had no reply to this, and chose to walk out of the summit. How considerate.


*By UN categorisation at the time of the '95 summit.

**The whole Primary/Secondary forest issue could be explored fully here, but I'll leave that to rest. To put it plainly, the many acres they hacked down are irreplaceable, in the areas of both environmental impact and flora/fauna diversification and development.

Terminal Frost
11th September 2002, 18:03
For a good laugh read:

http://www.johannesburgsummit.org/


It's the official site.

Lots of fancy talk yes, but action?