Can anyone tell me communistic main traits?

[Totalitarian Militant]

I mean, like their stance on abortion, the environment, etc.
Typical democrat vs republican style debate issues.
For example, these issues:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4448630

I would post this somewhere else, but Im a "restricted member"

So, can you tell me as many stances as you can of those?

Thanks a lot.

[Wolnosc-Solidarnosc]

Basically, legalize everything.

[bed_of_nails]

There is no classic communist stance. We all have different beliefs based upon our personal preferences.

We are for abortion. You cannot take a womans right to choose away.

We are for gay marriage. You cannot take the rights of those interested in either sex away.

Economy, Social Security, Budget... That is pointless.

Education. We want everyone to have equal education access so anyone can do anything they want.

Energy is party specific. I am extremelly pro-environmentalist, so I support the research of alternative fuel sources. I do not support drilling in Alaska or anywhere else.

Environment. See energy.

Guns. I personally believe in gun control, because it seems anyone can go out and buy an assault rifle for murdering their spouse's lover.

Health insurance is a given.

Iraq. We are all very anti-Iraq war. We believe it is a war for profit and exploitation.

Religion. I believe you can practice what you want as long as it doesnt harm anyone else or impose upon their rights.

Trade. Trade is vital for survival of a country.

[Jersey Devil]

Economy, Social Security, Budget... That is pointless.
How can you expect others to take you seriously when you post this nonsense.

[bed_of_nails]

Let me run this by you in a rather fast manner.

In a communist society, there is no money :o

Without money, a budget is pointless :o :o

Without money, social security is covered :o

Without money, an economy... You know where I am going with this.

Look at the communist ideals. You are trying to tell me we need to be working on increasing social security?

[Jersey Devil]

Health insurance is a given.

Yet money doesn't exist? This makes no sense. Admit that you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Guest1]

bed of nails, communists generally believe in arming the populace, to prevent dictatorship and counter-revolution.

Of course, in a situation like america's right now, that leads to violence because capitalism divides people and creates desperation. However, in a situation where people rise above that and begin to take matters into their own hands, working together democratically as a class to take control of their lives and workplaces, it is an organized expression of the people's will.

So gun control is an iffy.

As for health insurance, bed of nails means it literally, your health is insured, because healthcare is free.

[bed_of_nails]

It is good to know one of you guys knows what I meant.

I apologize if I am slightly unclear in my writing sometimes, I am often trying to get several things done at once and am happy to clarify anything for anyone.

[LSD]

Yet money doesn't exist? This makes no sense.

Actually, it's called communism... look it up.

The elimination of currencies is essential to creating a communist society. While some sort of measurement system might be nescessary for record keeping purposes, money will not. The elimination of distributed hard valuation-based exchange units is a nescessary step in fully dismanteling the "market".

As long as money exists, so will inequality!


Admit that you have no idea what you are talking about.

If I were you, I'd hold off the insults until I figured out what I was talking about...

[Jersey Devil]

If money does not exist then health insurance can not exist. You took my quote out of context.

[t_wolves_fan]

If money and government do not exist, then say goodbye to the environment, because y'all will use up all the natural resources in about 6 months.

Ergo, my signature.

[t_wolves_fan]

1. Youth
2. Idealism
3. Anger
4. Naivete
5. Hatred of parents
6. Poor hygiene


Generally speaking...

[RedAnarchist]

1. Youth -What about RedStar2000? Hes in his 60's. Marx and Engels werent communists until they were in their twenties, like Che Guevara.

2. Idealism - This is no negative trait exactly, is it?

3. Anger - Far better than just accepting capitalism

4. Naivete - No, naive is blindly being loyal to the pile of mud you were born on.

5. Hatred of parents - Did Marx hate his? Did Che? I certainly dont - and neither do most communists.

6. Poor hygiene - This isnt just a stereotype, its a sterotype of hippies. Who were liberals - not communists.

[Totalitarian Militant]

"Idealism - This is no negative trait exactly, is it?"

Someone can make the argument that nationalism isnt negative either. Whats your point?

[Redmau5]

Originally posted by Totalitarian [email protected] 3 2005, 09:57 PM
"Idealism - This is no negative trait exactly, is it?"

Someone can make the argument that nationalism isnt negative either. Whats your point?
Nationalism divides people from different nations, and can often lead to people from certain nations thinking they are better than other peoples. This is just a different form of racism, so how could you possibly defend that ?

[RedLenin]

Guns. I personally believe in gun control, because it seems anyone can go out and buy an assault rifle for murdering their spouse's lover.

Yes I agree. I am for the complete disarmment of the state. Once the military and police drop their guns, then we can consider getting rid of them all together, but not until the state complies (not going to happen).

[Redmau5]

Originally posted by Jersey [email protected] 3 2005, 03:32 AM
Admit that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Admit that you're an idiot.

[bed_of_nails]

Originally posted by [email protected] 3 2005, 11:43 AM
If money and government do not exist, then say goodbye to the environment, because y'all will use up all the natural resources in about 6 months.

Ergo, my signature.
You have to also take into account that the Soviet Union was in a race to do two things:

1: Get into space.

2: Show who could blow the most shit up.

The Soviet Union lost, I will admit that. It was the space race that did it, in my opinion. Interesting technique the Soviets had; put a person on a load of explosives and see how high they go and if they survive. There are quite a few dead Soviets floating around in space also.

Sorry about that tangent.

The Cold War definately obscured the judgement of the Soviets.

Capitalism now...

Lets look at the Bush administration.

A: Drilling for oil in Alaska.

Is this any better than what the Soviets did, expending their natural resources to try and survive?

B: Cutting pollution laws.

Thats great. Not only is Bush making gas/oil/whatever-hurts the-environment more accessible, but he is making it so you can go out and burn the lowest-quality crap you can find. SKIN CANCER FOR EVERYONE! WOOOH!

This one covers many things. The Clean Water act, Air Pollution acts, Nuclear disarmament acts (I concider this an enviromental threat also), and if you want me to find more I will tomorrow (It is rather late here, and I am suffering from insomnia).

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by bed_of_nails+May 4 2005, 07:25 AM--> (bed_of_nails @ May 4 2005, 07:25 AM)
[email protected] 3 2005, 11:43 AM
If money and government do not exist, then say goodbye to the environment, because y'all will use up all the natural resources in about 6 months.

Ergo, my signature.
You have to also take into account that the Soviet Union was in a race to do two things:

1: Get into space.

2: Show who could blow the most shit up.

The Soviet Union lost, I will admit that. It was the space race that did it, in my opinion. Interesting technique the Soviets had; put a person on a load of explosives and see how high they go and if they survive. There are quite a few dead Soviets floating around in space also.

Sorry about that tangent.

The Cold War definately obscured the judgement of the Soviets.

Capitalism now...

Lets look at the Bush administration.

A: Drilling for oil in Alaska.

Is this any better than what the Soviets did, expending their natural resources to try and survive?

B: Cutting pollution laws.

Thats great. Not only is Bush making gas/oil/whatever-hurts the-environment more accessible, but he is making it so you can go out and burn the lowest-quality crap you can find. SKIN CANCER FOR EVERYONE! WOOOH!

This one covers many things. The Clean Water act, Air Pollution acts, Nuclear disarmament acts (I concider this an enviromental threat also), and if you want me to find more I will tomorrow (It is rather late here, and I am suffering from insomnia). [/b]
No drilling?

You got one choice left.

You got to go nuclear. There is no other choice.

[bed_of_nails]

Research for more sources of energy. I am suprised that one didnt hit you in your thick head.

[ahhh_money_is_comfort]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2005, 05:27 PM
Research for more sources of energy. I am suprised that one didnt hit you in your thick head.
What sources?

These are the sources:

Chemical (fosil)

Solar(you got to be kidding)

Geothermal(yea right)

Hydroelectric(got enough rivers)

Nuclear(bing bing bing)

So again I ask you. What sources?